Need help getting info on vintage standard machine
 

Does anyone know about the Standard company sewing machines? I was just given one, and I am unable to even find a picture of it online anywhere. I have searched for days. It has an eagle with a tire around in on the bed of the machine. It is very plain looking, no fancy designs. I have tried to post pictures, but and error message says the site is unavailable. I know all about the history of the company and that Singer bought them out, but haven't found anything about my machine. The Standard name is in large letters on the body of the machine front.

I know they were made in Ohio I have one does yours have a coffin top?

I replied to https://www.quiltingboard.com/qb-hel...e-t298660.html hopefully that will help.

In the mean time, for your browsing pleasure :) here are some links about Standard sewing machines:
https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...e-t224960.html
http://needlebar.org/cm/thumbnails.php?album=261&page=2
http://needlebar.org/cm/thumbnails.php?album=261
http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollect...0014/index.htm

According to my notes about the Smithsonian link have that it is from 1895. Looks like some may be for industrial use.


As you probably have noticed while searching for the brand name Standard you are getting a lots of hits about ordinary machines. Even searching Quilting Board, one gets a lot of hits that have nothing to do with what you are looking for, but maybe the first few (where I got the one above from) https://www.google.com/search?num=50....0.ktRbQE3kYoU

Looking forward to seeing your "new" machine.


Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

Standards are great. Is it a slim or stout? Not official names, but what we use to differentiate . Once determined, you need to look for accessories, if you don't have them. A spider is a must. Replaces the bobbin case, so you can do chain stitch. SEE HERE
http://needlebar.org/main/survresult...rd1/index.html
Great info!

Nope, Mine is in a cabinet. If I could only post a pic., but I haven't been able to yet.

Problems with posting photos are usually caused because they are too large. You can reduce the size of the photo using most any photo editing program, including Paint, which is found in your Windows accessories folder. Most programs call it "resizing".

bkay

Thanks, I do see my machine. It says 0050 Rotary Late Model. Mine has the eagle with the tire on the machine bed and doesn't have any fancy decals at all. It also has the really fancy door that lifts up to the bobbin area from above. I have JPG pictures, but when I chose them, and hit the download button, nothing happens. So I still can't post pictures.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]599176[/ATTACH] I got it resized!!!!! Thanks so much, everybody, for your help. I will resize a couple more and post them

[ATTACH=CONFIG]599177[/ATTACH] Ok, now you can all see it and hopefully help me find out it's birthday and where I can get parts and attachments. A lot of attachments came with the machine, but they are Singer and Geist, and those won't work on a STANDARD. At least that is what I read here on the Quilting Board. It was a machine my mother-in-law bought but never cleaned up and used. It is filthy underneath and has some rust, but all in all it is in pretty nice shape. I have no attachments that came with the machine, only the ones I was given, mentioned above. Thanks everyone.

I do not have a Standard, however, Greist made many attachments for different machines. Maybe you can take some pictures of the Greist attachments. I'm sure the Singer feet won't work. It looks like Greist made attachments for at least some of the Standard machines as indicated at http://www.treadleon.net/library/topclampingfeet.pdf

I would say that what you have is considered a "Stout Standard." I'm guessing that the serial number would be on the stitch length plate over on the right of the bed. I'm also going to guess that more than likely the machine would be from the 1920s as I believe that is when machines went to a simpler gold decal design.

Good luck on getting this machine back to its original purpose. I'm sure someone like Macybaby or Farmhousesewer and others would be better able to help with more accurate info (since I'm just guessing).

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

The serial number on the machine is 1592263. I haven't been able to find it online. Thanks so much for all of your help.

That is a much later machine. Takes Greist feet, just like the eariler ones. Try the ones you have an let us know.

I will see about taking some pictures of the feet that I have. It would be nice if the Greist feet would work. Does anyone know, can we use an air compressor to help get off some of the grime from under the machine? I don't want to harm it. I know I will need lots of help getting it clean, etc. The rust isn't real bad, but there is quite a bit of it. I am not handy with all of that. So it will probably set for some time, before I can get help with it.
Thanks for your kindness.

I dont believe, as a later machine, it is even differentiated as a stout. Regardless, my slim and stout take griest attachments. The issue is, does yours take the ones that came with the machine. nNo harm in trying.Whetger ir not they fit it issue 1. If they fit, then confirm the needle is centered and the foot fits correctly.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]599522[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]599523[/ATTACH] Ok, here are the pictures of my Greist attachments and the case with bobbins. Does anyone know what hear my machine was born?
Can anyone tell me what each of the feet are used for? I have a manual, but it doesn't show any of these feet. So maybe the manual is not the right one. Which of these feet does the bar attachment go to. I know what is for, because a lot of newer machines have this guide for sewing rows evenly.
Thanks to all who are helping me.

I am glad that the Greist attchments will work. There are a lot of Singer attachments too, that were bought with the machine, when my mother-in-law got it. So do those fit also?????

It needs a new belt. Where can I buy one? It needs cleaning and oiling also. One doesn't know how long it was stored. The underside of the machine is filthy.[ATTACH=CONFIG]599524[/ATTACH]

Steel wool in 0000 size can be used to remove rust from shiny metal parts. Metal polish can be used after that, if needed.

Sewing machine oil for every junction of metal parts that move, or should move, including behind the nose (face) plate, behind the rear inspection plate, and on the bottom. It may take more than one oiling to get things to move freely. Use old newspapers to protect your work surface.

When I work on machine, it will get at least three oilings over a week, lots of gentle hand turning, then I see what may need more attention.

Old old oil has a tendency to get dried out and adhere parts together that should move freely. Oil, heat from a hairdryer, gentle turning, more oil, repeat.

IF you take off the tension assembly, and I wouldn't until you know more about your machine, take pictures of every step, so it can be reassembled correctly. I will try out sewing before taking apart the tension. A fresh needle of the right size, too.

Sewing machine oil is a good choice to clean the exterior.

It's a fun project! Enjoy it, take your time, and you will be sew tickled 😊 to have restored this beautiful machine.

Interesting the manual doesn't show any of the feet. You might want to join at http://www.victoriansweatshop.com as there are some Standard manuals at http://www.victoriansweatshop.com/?f...6056&trail=100 however, they are for the treadle machines. When I searched for a manual, I didn't see any with the electric machine.

Are you sure you need a "belt" as many machines from that time period used a direct drive pulley rather than a belt? A picture of the motor and back of hand wheel might help.

Nice picture of the attachments - hopefully you can understand the table I did. I'm not sure about #14 as when I zoomed in on it, it looks a different. Maybe it has a number on it, or you could get a picture of just that one.

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[TD]For Standard
[/TD]
[TD="width: 22"][/TD]
[TD="width: 33"]#[/TD]
[TD="width: 33"]
[/TD]
[TD="width: 82"]type of foot
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]yes[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]binder[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]yes[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]edgestitcher[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]yes[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]narrow hemmer[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]yes[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]hemmer[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]yes[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]hemmer[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]yes[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]hemmer[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]no[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]adjustable hemmer[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]yes[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]binder[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]no[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]binder[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]yes[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]tucker[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]yes[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]shirring foot[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]yes[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]quilting / underbraider[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]no[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]straight stitch[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]no[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"]?? Maybe cording foot? quilter/underbraider foot[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]no[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]adjustable zipper foot[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]yes[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]no #[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]quilter bar[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


The Singer feet look to be for low shank machines and would probably fit many low shank machine. The straight stitch foot is for narrow feed dogs, and would probably work best with the older Singer machines and definitely would not want to zig zag with that foot on the machine.

Hope this helps.


Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

Thank you so much!! Your info will help me a lot.

How nice to get your help. I need all I can get, and this will surely help a lot.

Here are pics you requested, and thanks again.[ATTACH=CONFIG]599535[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]599536[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]599537[/ATTACH]

I think it is a rubber stretch belt?????

Yes, you will need a belt.
I would not go with a stretch belt. I would prefer a black rubber v-belt. You might have to go with the other type v-belts to get the correct size. I think that if you check with sew-classic.com that she has somewhere on her site how to measure for the belt.

Another thought is that it might be a stretch one that they used originally. Does the manual tell you to remove the belt from the hand wheel and put it on the bobbin winder to wind the bobbin????


Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

Interesting. I have two Standard machines. One is a stout. It is set up for a motor - no belt groove on the handwheel. It runs off a rubber pullywheel against the handwheel. I have a spider for it but not a chain stitch plate. It will not chain stitch without the correct plate. If you buy the spider, buy the chain stitch plate, too. I’m thinking I’ll just cut the groove in the plate. The other Standard I have is a slim. It is set up with a belt groove in the hand wheel. Perhaps it was on a treadle (or not) I don’t know. I found manuals at Victorian sweatshop forum. I do know that my 90 year old mother could use it like she was born with it. She could no longer use her FW but she sat right down and sewed on the Standard. She could start the chain better than I could and get the chain stitch tail to come off with out unraveling when she pulled the fabric off.

So what is the story??? Mom said she had a “SINGER” just like it in college... and yes I am shouting for emphasis simply because there weren’t any Singers with that style head that chain stitched. (Note to moderators: please don’t cut my all caps out again or send me an email complaining that I am shouting because it hurts my feelings.) Besides every Singer I own has Singer in all caps right across the front of the machine. It may have been that “Singer” was a generic name for sewing machine in her mind. Anyway, she said she had a Singer just like it when she took her college classes in clothing construction. She said hers was on a treadle and it only chain stitched. She said the teachers really put her down for using it. However when she made clothes she got an A and her clothing did not rip out. Mom said hers was refurbished and bought second hand. That was in 1940ish.

I found some helpful info on the sew-classic site you mentioned. Thanks so much for your help.

I have the same machine and am looking for missing parts. I believe all I need is a bobbin holder, not the case I have a spider. Could you take a pic of yours so I know what I need? I'm almost to a point that I am ready to trash the machine.

Then a stretch rubber belt would likely be the one you want.