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leonf 11-04-2020 12:59 PM

1908 Catalogue Minnesota A in in a parlor cabinet sold for $18.95 fancy parlor cabinet for $20.85

tltbirds 11-05-2020 12:52 AM


Originally Posted by jlhmnj (Post 8430176)
Hi, A number is missing from the serial.

Jon

* You are correct. D1168131
From what I found it was sold in 1902.
Thanks all for your help.

bkay 11-05-2020 06:38 AM

Do not put anything with water in it on the machine itself. I think you can use kerosene to clean it. I bought mine at Walmart labeled as "Lamp Oil, unscented". Wait for someone more experienced than me to confirm that. I just wanted to give you that "no water" warning right away.
bkay

tltbirds 11-05-2020 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by bkay (Post 8430327)
Do not put anything with water in it on the machine itself. I think you can use kerosene to clean it. I bought mine at Walmart labeled as "Lamp Oil, unscented". Wait for someone more experienced than me to confirm that. I just wanted to give you that "no water" warning right away.
bkay

Thank you so much.
I do keep a spray bottle for the insides of SM's with 70 to 90% Kerosene (depends on how long I need to let it set) and the other 10 to 30% SMO.

zephyr51 04-25-2021 07:36 AM

Serial number location?
 
Please, someone, tell me where to locate the serial number on the Minnesota A and the non A(no letter).
thanks

OurWorkbench 04-25-2021 09:04 AM

I am not positive about the Minnesota A's specifically, but did answer at https://www.quiltingboard.com/8478820-post12.html of places to look. It looks like at least a couple in this thread the serial number is on the front slide plate.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

zephyr51 04-25-2021 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by OurWorkbench (Post 8478826)
I am not positive about the Minnesota A's specifically, but did answer at https://www.quiltingboard.com/8478820-post12.html of places to look. It looks like at least a couple in this thread the serial number is on the front slide plate.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

Great, tyvm, I'll look. We have 3 to do the search!

smechura 05-29-2021 09:37 AM

I have the same machine. Looking for info.
 

Originally Posted by Ruthannegreenwood (Post 8418813)
Can anyone help me identify my Minnesota treadle. It does not have a model letter Would love to know the age and type to get a manual for it

I have this same machine but my serial number is D662432. I have not been able to find info with a serial number starting with 6.

jlhmnj 05-30-2021 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by smechura (Post 8487326)
I have this same machine but my serial number is D662432. I have not been able to find info with a serial number starting with 6.


This Minnesota was made in 1900 and is a Davis model E. Sears Roebuck renamed the model Minnesota A about 1905.

Jon

Patrickluvsquilting 10-11-2021 04:53 PM

Hello, I realize this thread is rather old but wanted to ask for some help. I just purchased a Minnesota treadle foot but I cannot find a serial number and it does not have a letter- just Minnesota. It is in a parlor cabinet that has spindles on the top. The swingarm supports have the words: Pat March 27, 1900, on both of them. It has a box of attachments and a few bobbins and 2 shuttles. I guess I am looking for help in finding a serial number (if it matters) and to find out if the few manuals online for the "A" machine would still apply to my machine. I have the machine serviced by a professional and he said it just needed a cleaning and oiling, he didn't charge me for it because he said he had never seen a Minnesota machine and was impressed with it.

Patrickluvsquilting 10-11-2021 04:56 PM

I am trying to find a serial number on my Minnesota machine also. Mine does not have a letter and the only reference I can find is a date on the top support that reads Pat: March 27, 1900.

OurWorkbench 10-11-2021 05:27 PM

Patrick, I would suggest rereading this thread, particularly the following - a picture would help (2 links have instructions).
https://www.quiltingboard.com/8414961-post27.html
https://www.quiltingboard.com/7497839-post2.html
https://www.quiltingboard.com/8430150-post37.html

The location of the serial number could be a number of places as indicated at https://www.quiltingboard.com/8478820-post12.html

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

Patrickluvsquilting 10-11-2021 06:43 PM

Thank you for the links- I looked in all those places I could not find the serial number. It appears that the shuttle slide plate has been replaced because it is very thin and the back slide plate is solid and heavy. Here are some photos of the machine, cabinet and swing arm supports with the date.

Patrickluvsquilting 10-11-2021 06:50 PM

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Here are some photos of my cabinet and machine. I purchased it from a friend and paid way too much for it but she is having financial difficulties, so I wanted to help her.

Patrickluvsquilting 10-11-2021 06:57 PM

A few more photos
 
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I chose to upload several to show that all the places the serial number should be, doesn't have one.

OurWorkbench 10-11-2021 07:26 PM

Thank you for the pictures. Nice looking cabinet and machine.

Are you saying the patent date is on the cabinet? The close up picture is good, but not quite seeing where it is located in any of your other pictures.


Originally Posted by *Rhubarb* (Post 7497375)
I need help trying to identify the specific model of my Sears Minnesota ...

https://www.quiltingboard.com/attach...901-image2.jpg


Originally Posted by Patrickluvsquilting (Post 8513080)
I chose to upload several to show that all the places the serial number should be, doesn't have one.

Your machine sure looks like Rhubarb's and I have inserted the picture of her Serial number. It is quite probable that the slide plates have been replaced. That was my initial thought when I saw your pictures. I have seen serial numbers under the front slide plate, but I doubt that yours was located there.

As Jon (who is quite knowledgeable regarding these machines) responded for Rhubarb's machines, I'm reasonably certain that the same would apply to your machine.


Originally Posted by jlhmnj (Post 7497839)
Hi,

You have an early Davis Minnesota A before they put the A in Minnesota. This is a Davis Model E, Underfeed. Davis was located in Dayton, Ohio at this time and this machine was made for Sears mail order. The A was the top of the line Sears model and would have sold for roughly $18.

Davis needles, bobbins, and shuttles are unique to Davis. The original needles were called Davis long. One popular needle brand name was "Boye" with the number 10 on the cap. The needles are close to 2" long with a flat on one side. Always best to verify dimensions on Boye tubes as sometimes the contents get mixed up. Ebay is a good place to find them.

The serial number 973011 dates to late 1901 or early 1902. Davis dating records do not exist and this estimate is from original warranty certificates. Davis started making machines for Sears right around 1900 and on a much more limited scale until the late Teens or early Twenties. Davis went belly up in 1924 due to bankruptcy.

Link to similar owners manual:

http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollect...f/sil10-37.pdf
...

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.




Patrickluvsquilting 10-11-2021 07:36 PM

Thank you so much for your reply, the patent dates are on the metal supports that hold the top open, I had to crop my photos in order to upload them. I will take one of where the metal supports are. In the 2nd set of photos, you can see the entire date. As I looked at it just now, it kind of looks like an "A" at the end of the year. I will use Jons suggestions of the needles and such. Thank you again.

OurWorkbench 10-11-2021 07:46 PM

Okay, I found the patent https://patents.google.com/patent/US646154A/en I generally download the pdf. The OCR that is used is hard for me to read.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.
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Patrickluvsquilting 10-11-2021 07:50 PM

Patent dates on metal top supports
 
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Here is the metal supports that have the Patent date on each of them. The long metal hinge support is where they are located,

OurWorkbench 10-11-2021 07:57 PM

That's neat. Thank you for the pictures. The patent doesn't include the fancy wood work on the top, but that wasn't what the patent was for.

Oh, I forgot to mention that there is a excellent thread for reviving the wood work at https://www.quiltingboard.com/tutori...s-t109859.html

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.
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Patrickluvsquilting 10-11-2021 08:15 PM

Janey, Thank you for chatting and providing help. I truly appreciate it. The Parlor cabinet was in horrible shape when I got it home but I have re-built it and now will be working on reviving the wood. Thank you again and have an awesome evening.

GardenLady68 11-03-2021 05:28 AM

I have this machine also serial number D1209736. I have been cleaning it but do not know how to get the face plate off.
I inherited it from my husbands side of the family. it has been in the attic for who knows how long. if you have taken the face plate off please let me know how to do it. Thank you, Cathy

Patrickluvsquilting 11-03-2021 08:39 AM

Hi Cathy, I took the machine to a professional to clean, oil and do any service needed on the machine. He needed to use a rubber mallet and screwdriver to get the faceplate opened and off. It had so much dirt & grime in the tract it was "sealed". It can be done but if you have a sewing machine shop or someone that services old machines, I would take it to them. The guy that worked on mine hardly charged me because he had never seen a Minnesota machine. It only needed cleaning. Best of luck with your machine, they sew wonderfully.

GardenLady68 11-03-2021 12:16 PM

Thank you Patrick, I am trying to find some who can service it for me. Wish me luck. I am anxious to sew on her.

Patrickluvsquilting 11-03-2021 06:42 PM

I do hope you can find someone to service her for you. I much prefer sewing on mine than the new brother machine I bought. I am working on a quilt from antique 18 & 19th-century fabrics for my first granddaughter, I am doing it completely hand-sewn and with the Minnesota machine. It's been enjoyable so far but very expensive since I buy the fabrics from sellers in France & Germany. Anyway, Best of luck and hopefully you can start sewing with your machine soon.

Pjzeee 06-12-2022 08:49 AM

Also would like help in Identifying year of Sears Minnesota Machine
 
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I have been reviewing the posts regarding Minnesota Sears Machines and I think my friends machines is a 1901. I have attached pictures of the machine. Per the posts:
Serial Number D662432 - 1900
Serial Number D973011 - 1901-1902
Serial Number D1168131 - 1902
My friends machine is Serial Number D957872 so I am guessing 1901

jlhmnj 06-15-2022 12:52 PM

1901 is most likely.

Jon

Pjzeee 06-15-2022 01:52 PM

Sears Minnesota Sewing Machone
 
Thanks Jon,
Any idea if these machines are worth anything if they are in working condition?
Thanks again,
Pat

jlhmnj 06-15-2022 03:26 PM

You have an exceptionally nice Minnesota. Value or asking price is tough to figure but you can get a feel for the local market by comparing with other treadles on FB Marketplace and Craigslist.

Jon

kt2062 07-24-2022 01:43 AM

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Can these decals be purchased anywhere? I have a Minnesota but the decals are worn.The serial number is D1112945.

Also for some reason the cabinet does not support the sewing machine. There seems to be a gap such that the machine falls into the cabinet. I hope you can see from the attached photo.

I am new here, thanks for you help.
Kathy
California

OurWorkbench 07-24-2022 12:11 PM

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Welcome to Quilting Board, Kathy. Thank you for the pictures.

I have edited your picture. I think you need to bring the piece that holds the machine over the front piece.
Lower the yellow edge
Raise the blue edge
Raise the yellow edge so that the front edge is above the table top.
Lower the blue edge level with top.
Lower the yellow edge so that it rests on the blue edge.
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I have not seen any decals for the Minnesota machines. From the edge that can be seen in your pictures, they look pretty good. Have you tried wiping down the machine with sewing machine oil and cotton balls or old Cotton t-shirt rags? There are some that have really spruced up their machines by following the tutorial - https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...s-t193635.html

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.


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