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MusicCOMom2 02-23-2018 05:33 PM

Old Treadle Elgin Sewing Machine
 
I picked up a treadle Elgin sewing machine a few years ago at a garage sale and I can't seem to find any information on it even with the serial #C69624. By the serial # it says The Jerrell Co. Rockford, IL. From research, I know that the Elgin Sewing Machine Co. 1896-1898 then became the Elgin Sewing Machine & Bicycle Co. 1898-1899 closed. I can't seem to find anything on the Jerrell Co.

Any help would be appreciated! :)
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Mickey2 02-23-2018 06:03 PM

Quite a few here have some info on the merging of brand names. I couldn't find anything comprehensive on Elgin, but there is a later Elgin Rotary, and I suspect it has a connection to White. Another way to trace it's origin is by comparing to similar models visually and mechanically and narrow things down from there. If you post a picture you will likely get relevant response and info.

OurWorkbench 02-23-2018 07:44 PM

Welcome, MusicCOMom2. By any chance are you in Colorado, specifically in the front range?

From the research I've done regarding Elgin machines, It appears that there were three different vintages of the Elgin. One is from the late 1800s, another about 1920s and then probably mid 1950s (Japanese)? I'm thinking that maybe yours might be the 1920s and if so I know several of us in the front range that would love to see your machine.

A few links that may be of interest to you regarding an Elgin machine -
https://www.homesteadingtoday.com/th...please.490975/ particularly those by Macybaby (who is a member here also)
http://needlebar.org/cm/displayimage..._display_media
http://ismacs.net/free/manuals/freevs-c-e-ce-manual.pdf

It really would help to see a picture of your machine.

Hope this helps.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

hybearn8er 02-24-2018 09:03 PM

Im in the front range and have an Elgin treadle, I asked about mine in 2012 but only came up with them being part of the New Home machine family.

Janey I live in Wheat Ridge.

cdewey5115 05-13-2018 05:13 AM

I have an Elgin treadle that has the original paperwork / manual with it. I could post a picture but don’t know how on these boards. If you email, I would be happy to send a picture of the original manual that came with the machine

OurWorkbench 05-13-2018 06:08 AM

Welcome, cdewey5115.

If it is like the one like I saw the earlier this month, they are a beautiful smooth running machine. Do you sew with it?

There are many threads here about posting photos. Just some:
https://www.quiltingboard.com/qb-hel...g-t166655.html
https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...ml#post7855027
https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...d-t228840.html
https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...e-t230442.html
https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...e-t229244.html
As noted the photos generally have to be reduced to be able to post here on Quilting Board.


Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

eshannon 09-14-2019 08:33 AM

I just brought my grandmother's Elgin Rotary Treadle machine home. The original warranty receipt is dated 15 Dec 1936. There is also some New Home paperwork in one of the drawers. It was purchased in Rockford, IL from the Elgin Sewing Machine and Bicycle Company. No one has used it for many many years, and I'm trying to get it up and running. I'm also on the front range...Parker, and would appreciate ANY assistance you might have, since you possibly have a similar treadle machine. Thank you

OurWorkbench 09-14-2019 06:23 PM

Leon, are you reading this? What do you know about "Elgin Sewing Machine and Bicycle Company?" The reason I ask is because http://www.sewmuse.co.uk/american%20...ufacturers.htm says it closed in 1899?? Yet echannon's machine seems to be newer than that.

Welcome, eshannon. It really pleases me when people appreciate an inherited machine and want to get it back to what they were meant to do. Usually, it doesn't take very much to do that.

FYI, LeonF is into old sewing machines and old bicycles!

We like pictures!! Generally, they have to reduce them, before they can be posted. To insert a picture there is a "tree icon" about third from the left on the formatting bar above where you type.

I know hybearn8er's machine is a long shuttle machine. Since this is the only time MusicCOMom2 and cdewey5115
have posted and appear not to have signed on again. So don't know what their machines look like.

New Home was in Rockford, I think, beginning in 1932. Not that you need it, since you have the original paperwork, the dates of manufacture can be found at https://www.janome.com/siteassets/su...anufacture.pdf Can you find a serial number? I'm thinking that it probably starts with letters. perhaps NH, ALB or NlB

For cleaning these vintage machines it is recommended to wipe it down with sewing machine oil and soft cloths or cotton balls. While you have the sewing machine oil out, oil the places it says to in the manual.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.


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eshannon 09-14-2019 08:01 PM

I'm so excited to have this machine in my possession. I thought my brother sold it years ago in a garage sale. He surprised me a month or so ago and said he'd actually kept it thinking I might want it.....DUH! I sewed Barbie clothes with my grandmother on this machine 60 years ago, so I really want to bring it back to life and cherish it! Such wonderful memories! Yes, on the serial number it is A3365, purchase 15 Dec 1936. I will keep trying to post pictures.

OurWorkbench 09-15-2019 02:48 AM

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We like pictures!! Generally, they have to reduce them, before they can be posted. To insert a picture there is a "tree icon" about third from the left on the formatting bar above where you type....

My apologies, the icon location for inserting pictures is dependent on if you are in "Quick Reply" or "Go Advanced" or "Reply With Quote" as indicated by the circles. It is not third from the left, but third from the right (towards the left).

Quick Reply
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"Go Advanced" or "Reply With Quote"
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After you click on the icon you will get this and you will need to click on "From Computer"
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Then I have numbered the next steps. After clicking on "2" you will have to select an image from your computer before clicking on "3"
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As noted, the image will need to be reduced. There are several ways to do this, depending on your system and graphics program/app. Look for Edit Pictures or Resize. Some have emailed the picture to themselves and then save image on computer before trying to load. When I have pictures on my computer that I want to post, I will "Save As" with a different file name and then when I close it will ask if I want to "Save Changes" and I will click "No" so that the original is not changed.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

OurWorkbench 09-15-2019 04:15 AM

I wonder if it looks like http://needlebar.org/cm/displayimage..._display_media I think yours is a little older than this one.

In addition to the paper work, did you get the attachments and needles? I'm not sure, but I think that it might take a different system needle that may be difficult to find. I think I've read that one can grind off some of the shank to match the image that I believe may be shown on the bed of the machine.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

OurWorkbench 09-15-2019 02:00 PM

OK, I found out that eshannon was able to post a couple of pictures of her machine at https://www.quiltingboard.com/member...03-617398.html and https://www.quiltingboard.com/member...03-617397.html

It looks similar to the AAE I linked to on my previous post, needlebar.com without the bed decal.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

leonf 09-16-2019 07:52 AM

The Elgin Sewing Machine & Bicycle Co. and Seuberth-Leach Manufacturing were based along Dickie Avenue, Elgin, IL according to an old article in the Chicago Tribune. Of course, that may be just one factory. They made Safety bikes starting at about $40. Twice the price of many sewing machines then. LIke sewing machines, the name came back to life later after the war and Sears used the name for a while. Elgin watches came from the same folk later on, too.

I would love to have a pre 1900 Elgin bike and sewing machine to display together. I am much more likely to find a VSM though. They didn't have wooden wheels.

Macybaby 09-16-2019 11:54 AM

"Elgin" ended up being a badge name for Free - I've got one that is a New Royal (very different design, but made by Free) and a much newer one that is a Free design - looks like the picture linked above

OurWorkbench 09-21-2019 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by leonf (Post 8302185)
The Elgin Sewing Machine & Bicycle Co. and Seuberth-Leach Manufacturing were based along Dickie Avenue, Elgin, IL ...

So there was another company using the same name? in Rockville? According to most of the research I have done on "Elgin Sewing Machine and Bicycle Company." seem to indicate that it closed in 1899.

However, there appears a 1936 receipt from "Elgin Sewing Machine and Bicycle Company." I can't seem to find much information but there seems to be a gap of 37 years.


Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.


SDurbak 09-19-2020 03:37 PM

I realize this post is a couple years old, but here is some info on the Elgin company. In a nutshell, the original Elgin machines were produced between 1896-1898; after that, the company closed down and the Elgin name was put on machines made by other companies. I just acquired one today, and across the top is “The Elgin Sewing Machine Co., Rockford, Ills. U.S.A.” This leads me to believe that mine was made by the original Elgin.

https://sewingiscool.com/antique-elg...machine-value/

OurWorkbench 09-19-2020 05:32 PM

Welcome SDurbak. The instructions for posting pictures has changed since the post above. We like pictures. In order to post pictures on Quilting Board, you will probably need to reduce or compress the picture to a file size that is smaller than 2MB. How to post images can be found at https://www.quiltingboard.com/attach...020-01-17-.pdf
Don't forget to scroll over to the far right to find and click on the "Upload" button.

I have found that only the big red "Reply" button or "Quote" work to give me the paper clip icon to work for adding pictures.

https://www.quiltingboard.com/attach...p-location.jpg

I'm fairly certain the original Elgin Sewing Machine Company was located in Elgin, Illinois.

There were several companies that used Elgin. According to needlebar.org lots of makers used the Elgin name including one from Germany, It also says New Home used "Elgin" but doesn't list it in the badged names for New Home.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.


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