Cabbagepatchkid, that's my mother's machine - the one I have been looking for. I can see there are a lot of differences with the pic of my Universal two rows below your White. Oh, well, the Universal is turquoise and does remind me of my mother's pride and joy.

Grant, the collage is great.

i love it!!!!!:d

Ha Ha Ha I put it on my computer for Wallpaper!!!

Grant,

Love that collage. I recognized a half dozen of those machines. They looked pretty darn good in the company of the other machines.
I saved it too. :)

Joe

here's one to add to the wall paper:
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I have a Capri somewhere waiting for a bobbin winder part

T K Evans,
Nice machine - looks like a lot of Kenmore machines -
Here is a link to a generic zz manual
http://www.dontai.com/wp/images/imperial-535-manual.pdf
I don't know if it will help with the decorative stitches though. I see a plastic cam stack so it is from the 80's
I'm thinking I like the drop in cams/disks better than the cam stack machines.
Much easier to work on and they seem to keep on going.

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This machine looks very much like a machine my hubby bought me bran new in 1959. It was called 'Domestic"
Purchased at the T.Eaton store in Saskatoon , Canada. Mine had 12 cams, but I've never seen one like it after I sold mine.Boohoo.

I have what I think is a badged Japanese machine. I'm thinking it was made for Western Auto cause it's called a Wizard and if I recall correctly that was WA's appliance name. It has a brother motor, but needs the box for the motor and light connection.

Here is mine all done.
~G~

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You can still buy the outlet box from sew-classic!!!

Very nice, Grant. Looks new.


Thanks Miriam, I will check that out.

grannysewer,

Here's the cord block: { http://www.shop.sew-classic.com/Cord...143-SCE143.htm }


Joe

Thanks, Joe.

It's the looking that's fun, too! Joe just likes an excuse to look there... either that or he thinks people are too stupid to find it themselves....

Really now, that wasn't a nice thing to say Miriam. I'm just trying to help.

Joe

Thanks for the wonderful wallpaper!

:p:p:p just because we are women, doesn't mean we can't find things on sew-classic's wonderful website.

I found this link for "Deluxe Zig Zag Manuals".
But they squeezed the pictures, so you have to pull a lot of them up to see well enough to compare.

http://www.sewusa.com/Sewing_Machine...g_Machines.htm

Wasn't being sexist. Was looking at it from my perspective. When someone tells me where to look and they don't give me a link, It usually takes me a lot of hunting to find that one specific page / item. Sometimes I can't find it and end up frustrated. At that point I'm not in any mood to peruse the whole site just to find the mentioned item. So I do appreciate a direct link to what ever it is we're discussing. After I get that finished ... then ... I can look the site over when I'm not in the middle of something else.
So I almost always post a direct link when I am suggesting something to some one.

Perhaps you don't like me being so helpful?
Hmmmm, I'm not getting complaints from anyone else. Why you?

Joe

Thanks for the site. I need to sit and look when I have more time. Thank you again.

Joe, I don't mind you saving me a few steps. Better you searching than me. I get lost and side-tracked.

Do we know which ones are Good machines and which ones aren't? I see old ones all the time, but am afraid to buy.

There is no way of knowing if one is good or not until you mess with it awhile. I have seen good ones and I have seen some that looked good but I wouldn't want to spend much time sewing with them - then again they might work great for a project I don't want to mess up a good machine. I have seen that the old White, Kenmore, JC Penny, Montgomery Wards, Brother, some made by Janome, Riccar and others I can't think of are good. Then again don't spend a whole lot and don't expect a whole lot. I have some around I probably won't sell because I don't like them and nobody else should have to use them.... I have some that I do like but then you might love the ones I don't and I might love the ones you hate. No accounting for tastes. And I guess it makes a difference what you use it for. I think I like the ones that the needle will center - then I have had a couple that didn't center but I liked them anyway. Maybe it depends on mood? The certainly are cool looking.

thanks again miriam! my necchi is japanese - 1981- has been absolute treasure. got, literally, thousands of hours on it and i was the only one to ever use it. :)) been sewing since childhood on my grmothers singer treadle, one of the beautiful ornate ones w scroll, raised detail wood work. even as a very small child i recognized it's beauty. saw one almost as ornate on cl while looking for older machine to replace the necchi when it started entering the terminal stages of it's long worklife. gramma made all my play clothes on the fw that i now carry around. every once in a while i get on some sort of kick, and look up details, history of my two loves. i started following this forum when i joined the board a few years ago. never posted tho. so i do appreciate your time in responding to my requests. i will post pics and #'s etc on my necchi and fw soon. i will post pic of new love here too. lol...guess i'm easy, fall hard for old sewing machines, but i sure do love my new-to-me janome 1600p too!! it is very sweet! cl for 300$.

Alrighty, here is my girl. These are taken right after dust removal wipe down. She has been sitting unused in her table for, minimum, the 10 yrs I have had her in my possession and many years prior to that. I have made it my goal to bring her back to life. She is way to gunked up and sticky to sew, but the motor sounds good, nice and quiet. In the process of cleaning her up real good and then oiling the bajeezus outta her. She looks like she is going to be super fun to play with!


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Couldn't find much info on her. Anyone have any idea when she was born?

Here's my powder blue Wards Signature, made by Happy. I put this in the other thread but I will show you it again. haha

Monkey Ward 1890b, or UDT J1980. I had one of these, briefly. It was a thrift store find for $25 but I just didn't like the way I had to fiddle with the tension all the time to make the decorative stitches work right. I donated it to a nursing school so that students could stitch the school patches on their uniforms and/or mend their torn pants, lol.

This is a pic I stole from the Interwebs (ebay U.K.) of the same machine, since I don't have that machine anymore. It was a smallish machine and I was told by VintageSingers people that this model has too many plastic parts that would break and not be worth repairing. But it did a lot of decorative stitches.

Seems like those old Japanese machines came with disk/cams or had a cam stack. Some had plastic cam stacks and some had metal cam stacks. They are fun to play with once they are set free of gummed up oil. The Tri-Flo works wonders on that. When it is gummed up every moving part on the machine is suspect. I think the ones with cams are just a bit easier to set free - they are simpler. I had a MW machine sort of like that one with the stitch selector on the top. I'm thinking it was a lot like Bernina in that area. I don't know if it was a knock off or made by the same company for MW or what. I do know I liked the machine and probably sold it too cheap - I hope the kid that bought it was very happy with it - it was made by Happy I think.

I dug around and found a pic of a MW machine I sold - this is a before pic - it cleaned up wonderfully and it sewed wonderfully. I really liked the machine. It has a cam stack on the top like the one above.
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Some times when you find a machine in the wild they look really terrible and you wonder if they will ever sew. Patience, time and lots of T-F - give it a good scrub - some times they clean up and look just like new. This one did believe it or not. I guess I do not have an after picture though. The orange ends and nose are a hoot.
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I hope these will come up so you can see what a fun machine... The stitch selector levers were gummed up solid. T-F to the rescue.
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sorry - my pictures didn't come up.

Here is a machine I cleaned up this morning. It seems to be a very nice machine - no disks came with it. Some I have around fit the shaft but were too big at the business end. It sews to the left and has a push button reverse. Everything works!

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You have to be careful when buying these old colorful yet beautiful machines. A good percentage of them are left needle machines, like Miriam has talked about. Now, that's not a big deal if you're using it for general sewing. But left machines that can't center the needle are terrible at piecing as the fabric only rides over 1 feed dog to get a 1/4" seam. Not good at all for accuracy. I found that out the hard way on my last purchase:< It's a beauty but not what I need as a quilter. I need to look down at a centered needle with a walking foot too. But, here it is...

I though my pictures came up when I was posting. I'm so frustrated.

I have been given this machine and can't find any information or history on it. It is a Brother Riviera 1681-M. It does zz and a few decorative stitches and also shows how to monogram with it. It has the removable bed to make it a free arm for pants, sleaves, etc. Doea anyone have any information on it. Thanks in advance!!!!
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What information are you looking for? You may want to open the top and check the camstack on it. My Brother of similar time period has a large crack in it and a little bird told me many of the 70's type Brothers have cracked camstacks. Many of them can still sew o.k. but the decorative stitches may be affected.

Thanks Candance. No I haven't taken the top off yet....got to get my courage up!! I wondered about its history...when made etc....opinions on if they are worthwhile to get working right, if in good working order if they are keepers...etc. The same person also gave me a Singer 237 and I love, love, love that one.

I wouldn't put money into it if the camstack is cracked. You should check that first thing.