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miriam 07-07-2013 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Candace (Post 6164957)
I wouldn't put money into it if the camstack is cracked. You should check that first thing.

The 237 would be the better machine.

Maggie67 07-07-2013 08:40 PM

The 237 works beautifully.....I love it!! It is a Keeper!

grannysewer 07-09-2013 02:51 PM

Chrystal, who made your machine? I have some of those cams, but don't know which machine they fit.


Bobbie

frudemoo 04-02-2014 04:14 AM

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Wow! Just found this thread - super cool :D

This is my new toy, I ended up back here searching around for other machines like it after Google turned up absolutely nothing. I was really surprised as I have seen a few Myer Deluxe models here over the past couple of years. I didn't think they were that uncommon.

Anyway, I've never seen one exactly like this before so I thought I'd add mine to the gallery of other 'pretties'...

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miriam 04-02-2014 05:06 AM

Amelia - that one has some class!

grant15clone 04-02-2014 05:28 AM

It looks like it not only can sew, but tell the weather and play music all at the same time. :D
I love the fabric cord BTW. And does that have an unusual case?
~G~

Rodney 04-02-2014 07:46 AM

Frudemoo that's a great machine! These early zigzags remind me of cars from 1958 or 59 when the chrome and fins were at their peak and were completely overdone.
Miriam already posted a picture of the one Japanese fancy stitch machine I own. It's the orange Monkey Wards model she showed us. It's not overly fancy but works well.
Rodney

Trene 04-02-2014 11:58 AM

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Here is my Fleetwood Deluxe. I have only been able to narrow it down to being made in Japan because of the Japanese script cast into the underside of the body. it is a work horse, and sews brilliantly on fine fabrics as well as heavy canvas.

miriam 04-02-2014 02:08 PM

I have a couple with that big wide throat plate - one is a Capitol. Nice machine BUT I have a Singer nearly identical and it is a POJ.

frudemoo 04-03-2014 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by miriam (Post 6656612)
Amelia - that one has some class!

Hey, thanks Miriam :) I think so too... can't wait to give it a go, I think I'd better get dad to check the electrics on this one, it's got some 'red wire/green wire' action going on - he's busy rebuilding a vintage amplifier at the moment so I have to try and be patient ;)


Originally Posted by grant15clone (Post 6656655)
It looks like it not only can sew, but tell the weather and play music all at the same time. :D
I love the fabric cord BTW. And does that have an unusual case?
~G~

I'm sure it can do all of those things Grant! The case is sitting behind it in the pic. Nothing terribly unusual except for being in such fantastic condition and such a nice colour. The handle is white vinyl.


Originally Posted by Rodney (Post 6656863)
Frudemoo that's a great machine! These early zigzags remind me of cars from 1958 or 59 when the chrome and fins were at their peak and were completely overdone.
Miriam already posted a picture of the one Japanese fancy stitch machine I own. It's the orange Monkey Wards model she showed us. It's not overly fancy but works well.
Rodney

Looks great Rodney! The other Myer Deluxe models I've seen have more chrome than this and are a deeper metallic sky blue. Pretty striking! Must have been the most common one released in Australia. There seems to be much more variety in the USA.

Cogito 04-03-2014 05:20 AM

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I highly regret giving my Wizard to the Goodwill this past November....what was I thinking! Actually I was in a full blown panic!! My oldest son called me the end of Sept to tell me he was getting married to his 6 month girlfriend And that they were getting married the end of October. What?? Well you know what I thought immediately, haha. Well no, that wasn't it. But, as things evolved they decided on the day before Thanksgiving and then without a long story they were going to have a reception at our house for 60 people. Oh....my....god! I am not a hoarder and my house is usually passably ok, but I am a perfectionist about it if I am having people in. I am NEVER one to entertain. In fact most people would call me a hermit, lol. That is partly because if a speck of dust is out of place I am mortified (only if people are over not when it's just me and hubby). Well, I had sewing machines all over the house....dining room, family room, etc. then they told me they wanted to use the garage as a dance floor and live band. Aggghhhh! It was crammed to the ceiling. Anyway, full blown panic, decluttering like crazy, etc., etc. so my Wizard is gone. So sad. I lost 15 pounds in that 6 weeks of 18 hour days of cleaning and organizing like crazy. I don't recommend that as a form of weight loss though! Lol. It sewed beautifully after I cleaned her all up. But I got frustrated trying to find a reverse button. Looking at this pick now makes me kick myself!

amyjo 04-03-2014 04:50 PM

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frudemoo 04-04-2014 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by miriam (Post 5705464)
And another Kenmore - a bit different - probably made in Italy - I do have a nice set of attachments and cams for it - the table is pretty cool too - it is sort of in storage though.
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I really like the look of this Miriam :)

frudemoo 04-05-2014 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by J Miller (Post 5705132)

.... It is marked J-A 4 and was made by Maruzen/Jaguar.

Joe

Hey Joe
I've just been sniffing around the Needlebar archive trying to read up on how this numbering system works. They have pictures of the Myer Deluxe model that I've seen around before but none like this one with the internal cam stack for other stitch patterns. Mine is stamped: JNZ 749258 NE J-A12
So does that mean it can be identified from that number or is there more to it that you know of?
Cheers,
Amelia

shimmer 04-06-2014 07:00 AM

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I have had this one for a while. It was my grandmothers. I feel horrible for not even getting it out of the case while she was still alive. (I am grateful it was in my shed and not my home as we lost my home almost a year ago to fire) I can't find the model number on it anywhere. I see the motor model. But nothing to give me a clue of the machine model. It is a Bradford....

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mlmack 04-06-2014 07:24 AM

Nice machine, though it probably goes in this thread: http://www.quiltingboard.com/picture...p-t164361.html.

That bronze colored plaque on the front might have the model name/number. Or they are on a tag on the front right under the front of the bed, though most of these machines were just branded with any of a number of names.

shimmer 04-06-2014 07:29 AM

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It's made in Japan. There are no numbers on the plaques.... There is this one underneath
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miriam 04-06-2014 07:39 AM

Welcome Shimmer!!! I'm glad you were able to have that lovely machine!!! It is so exciting. Have you made it work yet? There is a lot of info on that thread Mark linked to - and do post a pic there, too. If you have questions feel free to post or pm. It looks very much like a Brother badged machine. Those are usually some of the best clones. It is up there with a Morse and an Atlas. Enjoy - the best thing you could do is to use that machine.

Brother sewing machine serial numbers are coded to indicate the manufacture date of the machine.
The letter and first number indicate the month and last digit of the year the machine was made.
Because the first number in the serial number could correspond to a year in any decade, you need help
from Brother International Corp., the machine's manufacturer, to determine when the machine
was made. You can submit an email request through the company's website.

J Miller 04-06-2014 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by frudemoo (Post 6660840)
Hey Joe
I've just been sniffing around the Needlebar archive trying to read up on how this numbering system works. They have pictures of the Myer Deluxe model that I've seen around before but none like this one with the internal cam stack for other stitch patterns. Mine is stamped: JNZ 749258 NE J-A12
So does that mean it can be identified from that number or is there more to it that you know of?
Cheers,
Amelia

Amelia,

I got the J-A number chart I'm using from the Yahoo Japanese machine group. J-A 12 was made by Brother.
The other alpha numeric group is probably the serial number.

Joe

shimmer 04-06-2014 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by miriam (Post 6662382)
Welcome Shimmer!!! I'm glad you were able to have that lovely machine!!! It is so exciting. Have you made it work yet? There is a lot of info on that thread Mark linked to - and do post a pic there, too. If you have questions feel free to post or pm. It looks very much like a Brother badged machine. Those are usually some of the best clones. It is up there with a Morse and an Atlas. Enjoy - the best thing you could do is to use that machine.

Brother sewing machine serial numbers are coded to indicate the manufacture date of the machine.
The letter and first number indicate the month and last digit of the year the machine was made.
Because the first number in the serial number could correspond to a year in any decade, you need help
from Brother International Corp., the machine's manufacturer, to determine when the machine
was made. You can submit an email request through the company's website.

You're so smart :) I can't get it threaded proper. It sounds awesome! Just have some threading issues. That's why I am trying to find a model number to see if I can get a diagram for threading it.

My hubby wants to call it Belle Aire....says it's the same color as his uncle's 57 Chevy :)

mlmack 04-06-2014 08:27 AM

Here's a link to a Brother HA3B5 machine on eBay that is just like yours:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Brot...-/201059188439

shimmer 04-06-2014 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by mlmack (Post 6662453)
Here's a link to a Brother HA3B5 machine on eBay that is just like yours:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Brot...-/201059188439


Thank you so much! Now need to find the manual or how to thread it. I think I'm really close but the top thread underneath isn't tight.....

Mizkaki 04-06-2014 12:26 PM

Shimmer,

Try this link for a manual. http://ascrapoflife.blogspot.com/201...er-sewing.html

Cathy

miriam 04-06-2014 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by shimmer (Post 6662404)
You're so smart :) I can't get it threaded proper. It sounds awesome! Just have some threading issues. That's why I am trying to find a model number to see if I can get a diagram for threading it.

My hubby wants to call it Belle Aire....says it's the same color as his uncle's 57 Chevy :)

Actually there is a Belle Aire - it is a red machine. This MANUAL is the manual you need for that machine: http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_...al-rotated.pdf
Muv has a video for a Singer 15: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2tiiZ51J7g
The clones should thread the needle right to left - some of the Singer 15s thread left to right but they are the same beast and the same manual. It is unlikely that you will find a specific manual for a clone.

mlmack 04-06-2014 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Mizkaki (Post 6662783)
Shimmer,

Try this link for a manual. http://ascrapoflife.blogspot.com/201...er-sewing.html

Cathy

The machine for that manual has the tension in the front, so it might not work.

miriam 04-06-2014 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by mlmack (Post 6662873)
The machine for that manual has the tension in the front, so it might not work.

That manual works for clones with front tensions - sorta.

Mizkaki 04-06-2014 01:49 PM

Mark,

You are correct. Not sure why I didn't catch that.

Cathy


Originally Posted by mlmack (Post 6662873)
The machine for that manual has the tension in the front, so it might not work.


Mizkaki 04-06-2014 02:01 PM

Miriam,

Most class 15 (clones) machines thread from left to right. The Singer 19-88 thru -91 right to left.

Cathy



Originally Posted by miriam (Post 6662859)
The clones should thread the needle right to left - some of the Singer 15s thread left to right but they are the same beast and the same manual. It is unlikely that you will find a specific manual for a clone.


miriam 04-06-2014 02:06 PM

What did I do get it the other way around??? sigh - getting old............ it was exactly what I meant. I'm thinking the old 15-30s go the other way.

Mizkaki 04-06-2014 03:07 PM

Miriam,

Yup, the 15-30 threads left to right. Seems we giggled over this same thing in the past. GGG

Cathy


Originally Posted by miriam (Post 6662930)
What did I do get it the other way around??? sigh - getting old............ it was exactly what I meant. I'm thinking the old 15-30s go the other way.


miriam 04-06-2014 04:13 PM

I have trouble with left and right some days. Have you ever noticed that some Singer throat plates have arrows on them??? I sort of wish they all did. I guess a magic marker would do the trick...

frudemoo 04-16-2014 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by J Miller (Post 6662396)
Amelia,

I got the J-A number chart I'm using from the Yahoo Japanese machine group. J-A 12 was made by Brother.
The other alpha numeric group is probably the serial number.

Joe

Thanks Joe, sounds like there's another group I have to join :D

KenZ 09-06-2014 02:41 PM

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Morse TZ.50

KenZ 09-06-2014 03:09 PM

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Wards ZZ Model 788 made Japan.

Rodney 09-06-2014 07:31 PM

Very nice way to display your machines KenZ.
Both machines you posted look great!
Rodney

KenmoreRulesAll 09-07-2014 06:38 AM

I've always wanted one of the 7 Jewel and 21 Jewel Monty machines. Very nice.

Rodney 09-07-2014 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by KenmoreRulesAll (Post 6878169)
I've always wanted one of the 7 Jewel and 21 Jewel Monty machines. Very nice.

What are those?
Rodney

KenmoreRulesAll 09-07-2014 09:19 AM

Sorry, I typed in my own language. I call a Montgomery Ward machine a 'Monty' and the 7 Jewel and 21 Jewel machines are two different models with the MW badge.

Rodney 09-07-2014 09:23 AM

Monty makes sense now. What does the 7 jewel and 21 jewel mean?
Sorry I'm dense.
Rodney

Cari-in-Oly 09-07-2014 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by KenmoreRulesAll (Post 6878376)
Sorry, I typed in my own language. I call a Montgomery Ward machine a 'Monty' and the 7 Jewel and 21 Jewel machines are two different models with the MW badge.

Hmm, saying Monty is quicker than Monkey Wards which is what I grew up hearing. Love that blue machine.

Cari


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