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Mayor 06-05-2016 06:08 PM

Bradford Deluxe 850-Lightweight Model W.T.G. #850
 
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Originally Posted by tkevans (Post 5815062)
These sewing machines are wonderful! Perhaps you can help me. I've inherited a 'Braford Deluxe', made in Japan. I'm fairly certain that my Grandmother bought this machine from the W. T. Grant Co. store in Yuba City CA in the early 1970s, which went out of business in 1975. I found 'Model W. T. G. #950' on the machine, and wikipedia says that WT Grant used 'Bradford' to brand their electronic items. I'm looking for a manual, and bobbins and whatever else I might need. I used the machine for the first time yesterday and was able to figure out enough to actually sew something, but am flying by the seat of my pants. I found several websites about sewing machines yesterday, including this one, but 'Bradford' does not show up much even though there are seemingly hundreds of makers that do. I wonder if I could find out who made 'Bradford Deluxe' machines for WTG Co. I might be able to track down a manual. I did notice that the Wards Models UHT J1276 and UHT J1277 are set up very much like the Bradford Deluxe. Could you give me any clues? Thanks, Thomas
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I have the 850 model and it is very similar but I also unable to find any manuals or info on this machine or the company other than they are from Japan and went out of business in the mid 70's :( Any luck finding a link to some useful information on this machine would be most appreciated :) I think I have it threaded correctly and it is sewing well but not sure on what all can be done with it or if I really have it even threaded correctly without manual :) Thanks, Craig
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Cari-in-Oly 06-05-2016 06:30 PM

Earlier Bradfords were built by Brother but I can't tell you who built that one. It looks like you have it threaded correctly. If it is sewing a good stitch, then you've done it right.

Cari

miriam 06-05-2016 06:35 PM

It is threaded correctly but you do need to catch the check spring in the tension as you go past. Some have a bar, some have a little path on the tension top.
The machine is a simple zz or ss.
It takes class 15 bobbins
The R button is reverse. Upper knob is stitch width.
The knob between the two and slightly to the right is your stitch length.
I know nothing about the many companies that made those machines.
A generic manual should be of some help.

Little_trucker 11-23-2016 10:33 PM

Wow
 
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I didn't think I was ever gonna come across another machine like mine entail now!!!
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Originally Posted by frudemoo (Post 6656526)
Wow! Just found this thread - super cool :D

This is my new toy, I ended up back here searching around for other machines like it after Google turned up absolutely nothing. I was really surprised as I have seen a few Myer Deluxe models here over the past couple of years. I didn't think they were that uncommon.

Anyway, I've never seen one exactly like this before so I thought I'd add mine to the gallery of other 'pretties'...

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MFord 11-23-2016 11:20 PM

Gorgeous! I love the pink ones :)

miriam 11-24-2016 02:37 AM

Did you know that each stitch on that dial may be 3 stitches depending on where you set the needle. Take care to clean inside the machine very well before you turn the dials. Any dried up oil can cause the dials not to turn or not to turn right. Once they turn you are in for some WOW. I love having the LCR needle positions on these machines. This will have more stitches than a Singer 401 and others.

susieq72 06-16-2017 04:11 PM

this looks like the Montgomery Ward sewing machine that I learned to sew on about 50 years ago.

Cawood Girl 07-05-2017 08:35 AM

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ramonasct 05-28-2018 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by grannysewer (Post 5972964)
I have what I think is a badged Japanese machine. I'm thinking it was made for Western Auto cause it's called a Wizard and if I recall correctly that was WA's appliance name. It has a brother motor, but needs the box for the motor and light connection.

Just got my Wizard about a month ago (April, 2018) and it is exactly like your picture. Except there is no motor on the back of the machine. Can you (or anyone else) give me some information on the motor for this machine? I also need to order the double receptacle/cord for it. Cannot find a manual. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Ramona in Mobile

Cari-in-Oly 05-28-2018 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by ramonasct (Post 8066220)
Just got my Wizard about a month ago (April, 2018) and it is exactly like your picture. Except there is no motor on the back of the machine. Can you (or anyone else) give me some information on the motor for this machine? I also need to order the double receptacle/cord for it. Cannot find a manual. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Ramona in Mobile

I'm not gonna scroll through 7 pages of posts to see what machine you have, but there are many Yahoo groups and FB groups that cater to the vintage Japanese machines and would most likely have a manual you could use. If you can't find the right Wizard manual, look for a Brother manual that looks like your machine. Brother built the Wizard machines and there's always a Brother twin to them.
You can search Ebay or Etsy for a vintage motor if you want one the same color. If you're not picky about the color then Sew Classic has the parts you need. https://shop.sew-classic.com/Motor-N...s-SCE35L09.htm and https://shop.sew-classic.com/Cord-Se...143-SCE143.htm

Cari

miriam 05-28-2018 12:34 PM

You can paint a motor to match.

miriam 08-30-2018 02:50 AM

Have all the links on this forum been dismantled? Nothing works. There may be manuals on Victorian sweatshop forum.

OurWorkbench 08-30-2018 05:10 AM

Not all. These still work


Originally Posted by miriam (Post 5901136)
T K Evans,
Nice machine - looks like a lot of Kenmore machines -
Here is a link to a generic zz manual
http://www.dontai.com/wp/images/imperial-535-manual.pdf
I don't know if it will help with the decorative stitches though. I see a plastic cam stack so it is from the 80's
I'm thinking I like the drop in cams/disks better than the cam stack machines.
Much easier to work on and they seem to keep on going.


Originally Posted by miriam (Post 6662859)
Actually there is a Belle Aire - it is a red machine. This MANUAL is the manual you need for that machine: http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_...al-rotated.pdf
Muv has a video for a Singer 15: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2tiiZ51J7g
The clones should thread the needle right to left - some of the Singer 15s thread left to right but they are the same beast and the same manual. It is unlikely that you will find a specific manual for a clone.

I'm not sure about the youtube in the last one. If one can find a similar White machine, https://www.singer.com/support might have it. I have looked for a few White manuals on the Singer site that weren't there, but a lot are.

I was thinking I have found some manuals on manualslib.com but when I searched for deluxe zigzag manuals all that came up were for Singer machines.

I don't remember any Japanese manuals on VSS, yet. I have a couple that I should scan and have posted.

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MBlair 04-11-2019 07:28 AM

I have this same machine. I have it it since I was a teenager. Has anyone ever found a manual for it?

OurWorkbench 04-11-2019 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by MBlair (Post 8239047)
I have this same machine. I have it it since I was a teenager. Has anyone ever found a manual for it?

Welcome MBlair.

I just checked this thread and there are over a hundred pictures in this thread. Granted, there are lots that have multiple images of the same machine. Which machine are you referring to? Have you searched some of the sites for a manual? Many of these machines may have a different name on them, but are the same machine. Sometimes you will be able to find a manual for one of the other named machines that will work for your machine. Sometimes you can find a manual by looking at the images on some of the "manual" sites.


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Irishrose2 04-13-2019 12:44 PM

There is a FB site - Vintage Sewing machines (non Singer) that has a catalog of many manuals. Someone there was able to find a manual for the Universal I just gave away. It went to a young man who has never sewn so I felt good that I could print him directions.

veedub2 04-20-2019 02:58 AM


Originally Posted by Irishrose2 (Post 8239999)
There is a FB site - Vintage Sewing machines (non Singer) that has a catalog of many manuals. Someone there was able to find a manual for the Universal I just gave away. It went to a young man who has never sewn so I felt good that I could print him directions.

Can you post a link to this group? I searched for it but there are several vintage sewing machine groups, and the one I thought is was has Singer in the description, so that wouldn't be the (non-Singer) group.

Thanks

Irishrose2 04-20-2019 11:41 AM

Here it is if it works. It does have Singer in the name.
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GKTremmel 11-22-2020 05:17 PM

Do you know what type of cams this Capri uses. I have an exact same machine. It sews great! Very heavy.

GKTremmel 11-22-2020 05:35 PM

Cams
 

Originally Posted by makitmama (Post 5708738)
couldn't get the pic to load for some reason- trying again!

do you know what cams that Capri uses? I have the same machine.

GKTremmel 11-22-2020 05:54 PM

Manufacturer code
 
DOes anyone know what company JA19 represents?

OurWorkbench 11-22-2020 06:15 PM

If you are referring to https://www.quiltingboard.com/attach...mg_1383-2-.jpg I had not seen a JA number that had three digits after. I thought TW was a machine made in Taiwan. However, there is a list that seems to indicate that JA 19 was made by Toyota,

Does your machine have a JC number cast or otherwise visible on the base?

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GKTremmel 11-22-2020 06:18 PM

It has a JC-8 on it

GKTremmel 11-22-2020 06:34 PM

Capri Deluxe Sewing Machine
 
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Here is my “Capri” Deluxe sewing machine. It does zig zag and straight stitches. HAs a class 15 bobbin system. Castings on bottom are JA-8”, “ J-A19.878TW.54389”. Also has a symbol cast on the bottom.
It takes cams. There is a three position knob that looks like it raises and lowers the cam to one of three heights. There are two buttons near the cam section that are marked Automatic and Manual. They move a lever that engages the cam follower inside the cam compartment.

GKTremmel 11-22-2020 06:42 PM

Does anyone know who made this machine and what cams it uses. I do not have any cams, or a manual for it.

OurWorkbench 11-22-2020 06:59 PM

Thank you for the great pictures.

There were many cams made for Japanese machines. It doesn't look like makitmama had cams for the Capri.

According to http://www.doubleveil.net/zssmp/resources.htm the JC-8 is attributed to Janome. I don't remember every seeing the logo cast in the bottom.

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JoeJr 11-30-2020 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by GKTremmel (Post 8435909)
Here is my “Capri” Deluxe sewing machine. It does zig zag and straight stitches. HAs a class 15 bobbin system. Castings on bottom are JA-8”, “ J-A19.878TW.54389”. Also has a symbol cast on the bottom.
It takes cams. There is a three position knob that looks like it raises and lowers the cam to one of three heights. There are two buttons near the cam section that are marked Automatic and Manual. They move a lever that engages the cam follower inside the cam compartment.

I love machines like that. It makes my 503 Rocketeer look plain.

JoeJr 02-04-2021 06:57 AM

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I just picked up this machine yesterday, for $15. I don't know if it sews yet, the seller told me an "amateur" worked on the tension assembly and it never sewed after that. I have been leaning towards these 50s/60s machines lately, not sure why.

leonf 02-04-2021 09:41 AM

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They are fun looking and some can be handcranked, also

Valinbean 02-05-2022 05:34 PM

Automatic De Luxe Zig Zag 999B Japan, please help!
 
I just got this beauty today for $75 at a second had store with the table and everything. It seems to basically work except that the nob to change the size of the zig zag is malfunctioning and the needle hits the foot pad; it looks like the needle broke off because of this.

I haven't been able to find anything on it to look up a manual for it though!
The brand tag is for Atlas but I found a couple that look pretty much exactly the same with different brand names so that's not very helpful. Can anyone help me identify and fix it?https://photos.app.goo.gl/7wwVVX3Jz8hYsXT98

OurWorkbench 02-05-2022 07:48 PM

Welcome, Valinbean. I'm guessing that you have a pink machine. From my understanding these machines were made by Brother. There will probably be a "Brother" equivalent machine. These machine were made in the time where it was common to have many different names on the same machine. There is a facebook page for Pink Atlas Sewing machines at https://www.facebook.com/groups/544577085733663/ I used to belong to some Yahoo groups, that were quite helpful with my vintage machines. When Yahoo did away with groups, most migrated to either facebook or io.groups.

The machine will need a good cleaning and oiling. Sometimes that is all that is needed. It is possible that the machine has the wrong foot on it. How is the knob malfunctioning?

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Valinbean 02-06-2022 07:15 AM

Actually it's teal, white, and chrome, not pink. I found pictures of basically identical looking ones with Belair and Modernage name tags online, but I still wasn't able to find any specific info like a manual or anything.
Also, I was able to get it working; the nob was just stuck because of the old grease and loose springs but idk if the foot is supposed to move for the zigzag stitches or what because it only works with the zigzag set to zero. It definitely needs a thorough clean and re-grease, but it's surprisingly clean tbh, just a little dusty.

I'm using my phone right now, so I don't think it will let me post a picture, but I'll try on my computer when I get a chance. Here's a link to a picture of the Belair one that looks identical (hopefully it will work):
https://images.app.goo.gl/5V8AHPsAzsgS4msK7


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Originally Posted by OurWorkbench (Post 8535640)
Welcome, Valinbean. I'm guessing that you have a pink machine. From my understanding these machines were made by Brother. There will probably be a "Brother" equivalent machine. These machine were made in the time where it was common to have many different names on the same machine. There is a facebook page for Pink Atlas Sewing machines at https://www.facebook.com/groups/544577085733663/ I used to belong to some Yahoo groups, that were quite helpful with my vintage machines. When Yahoo did away with groups, most migrated to either facebook or io.groups.

The machine will need a good cleaning and oiling. Sometimes that is all that is needed. It is possible that the machine has the wrong foot on it. How is the knob malfunctioning?

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OurWorkbench 02-06-2022 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by Valinbean (Post 8535694)
...but I still wasn't able to find any specific info like a manual or anything.
Also, I was able to get it working; the nob was just stuck because of the old grease and loose springs but idk if the foot is supposed to move for the zigzag stitches or what because it only works with the zigzag set to zero....​​​​​​

Trying to find a manual can be a problem. The places that used to be recommended are no longer in business. You may luck out if you keep looking.

As far as the foot moving - no! A couple of possibilities as for why it will hit the foot in zigzag mode would be either the wrong foot or settings wrong. The foot could be for a straight stitch only, but if it is a zigzag foot then it might be a foot for a machine that is for center "homing" machine. Many of these machine do not have a way for the needle position to be changed and are considered left homing machines. If your machine does not have the silver lever on the white top like the one seen at https://img.5milesapp.com/image/uplo...55wqoe3jx.webp then more than likely it is a left homing machine.

Make sure you have a zigzag plate and a zigzag foot. The needle plate for a left homing sewing machine would look like https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1002...sewing-machine and the zigzag plate would look like https://www.etsy.com/listing/1002650...sewing-machine

Looking forward to seeing pictures of your machine.

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Iceblossom 02-06-2022 11:27 AM

Some of these machines are fussy about whether the foot is up or down when you try to change things like width. With mine, I think it is foot down. It may seem like the knobs move but they really don't engage unless I have the foot down.

As far as Ourworkbench said -- the machines do have different plates for the zigzag, a wider slit rather than the single hole. Sad to say, sometimes I have left my quilting foot on after zigzag and I have indeed hit the foot. You really don't want to do that for any number of reasons!

One other thing that sometimes trips people up is whether or not there is a "darning" feature on their machine. This raises and lowers the feed dogs, so if the fabric is not moving you might look to see if you have a button or switch or something. Other machines have an accessory "darning plate" that fits over the base.

OurWorkbench 02-06-2022 12:18 PM

I forgot to ask if there are any JA or JC with a number on the bottom of the machine.

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Valinbean 02-06-2022 12:48 PM

I think it's the wrong foot, thank you!
The hole in the foot is just barely big enough for the needle itself actually and does not match up with the hole in the plate which is a pretty long oval. It does have the silver lever.

It doesn't have a J, but it does have a Japanese letter that's kind of like a J, a space, and then a C5


Originally Posted by OurWorkbench (Post 8535753)
As far as the foot moving - no! A couple of possibilities as for why it will hit the foot in zigzag mode would be either the wrong foot or settings wrong. The foot could be for a straight stitch only, but if it is a zigzag foot then it might be a foot for a machine that is for center "homing" machine. Many of these machine do not have a way for the needle position to be changed and are considered left homing machines. If your machine does not have the silver lever on the white top like the one seen at https://img.5milesapp.com/image/uplo...55wqoe3jx.webp then more than likely it is a left homing machine.

Make sure you have a zigzag plate and a zigzag foot. The needle plate for a left homing sewing machine would look like https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1002...sewing-machine and the zigzag plate would look like https://www.etsy.com/listing/1002650...sewing-machine

Looking forward to seeing pictures of your machine.

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Valinbean 02-06-2022 12:52 PM

It does have a "darning" and "sew" switch, but I think the problem is just that it has the wrong foot on it. Thank you though!


Originally Posted by Iceblossom (Post 8535758)
One other thing that sometimes trips people up is whether or not there is a "darning" feature on their machine. This raises and lowers the feed dogs, so if the fabric is not moving you might look to see if you have a button or switch or something. Other machines have an accessory "darning plate" that fits over the base.


OurWorkbench 02-06-2022 01:01 PM

Okay, if you move that lever to the middle "M" then you should be able to straight stitch. Definitely do not change the zigzag from "0" until you get a zigzag foot. Do you have the straight stitch needle plate or any other feet for your machine? Since you have the lever, the needle plate would be different from the one I linked to earlier.

A high shank zigzag foot looks like https://www.sewingpartsonline.com/zi...nter-5555.aspx There are several other feet that can be used, but I am fairly certain that you would need those made for high shank machines. If you lower the presser bar, the hole for the attachment screw will measure 1" from the needle plate.

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Valinbean 02-06-2022 02:21 PM

Pictures
 
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Here are the pictures. The color looks weird in the close up pictures, but it is definitely teal, not green. Also, I guess it is a weird J before the C, it just looked weird upside down and sideways when I was under it lol.

It does look like a high shank foot so the one you linked should work. I don't have any other plates or feet or anything, just what it had installed on it already.
As you may have guessed from my lack of knowledge, this is my first and hopefully last sewing machine (I say last because hopefully this will work for me for my whole life :) )

OurWorkbench 02-06-2022 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Valinbean (Post 8535783)
...As you may have guessed from my lack of knowledge, this is my first and hopefully last sewing machine (I say last because hopefully this will work for me for my whole life :) )

Thank you for the pictures.

You do have a "left homing" machine and the straight stitch plate would be like the one at https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1002...sewing-machine As you can see the feed dogs on the right side of the straight stitch presser foot.

It should last a good long while. Sometimes plastic parts become brittle and crack or break. Your machine looks like it has not been exposed to the heat and cold extremes that would hasten the deterioration of those parts

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