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    Question about Singer ZZ machines

    Other than the 206, did Singer make any cast iron bodied ZZ machines?
    All of them I've seen, and that we have, from the 319 up are aluminum.

    Joe

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    Hi Joe, the four (might be five) 206s I've got are all aluminum. I've heard that they made the 206s in cast iron as well, but I've never come across one. The one 306 I've got is also aluminum, and I thought that they all were, but I'd read online that some people own heavy, cast-iron 306s.

    I'm not sure why it is that I only seem to come across aluminum 206s and 306s--I wonder if the cast-iron ones were not made in the 'States, or if it's just particular to my region (NYC), or if it's just dumb luck. If anyone can shed any light, please share!

    That being said, I'd never take a cast-iron 206 or 306 over an aluminum one; having to tilt the entire machine back to change the bobbin is already a hassle, particularly if you're mid-stitch and still have the work under the needle--it's got to be an even bigger pain when the machine is heavy cast iron.
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    Singer 237 is a ZZ and is cast iron.

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    Rain,

    Thanks. I thought ( erroneously I guess ) that the 206s were cast iron. I guess cos they are black and look like the old style black Singers.
    So it seams that when Singer introduced the ZZ machines they pretty much switched to aluminum too. Very interesting.

    Mom3,
    I don't have anything in the 200 series. Our Singer ZZ's start with 3xx. I'll have to keep my eyes open for one.

    Joe

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    My Singer 306M is cast iron.
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    Hmmmmm, I'm gonna have to find a pic of a 306M. I'm not familiar with that one.

    Joe

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    Hmmmmmmm .... Hmmmmmm ( double hmmmmm ) ISMAC says the 306M is aluminum.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Hmmmmmmm .... Hmmmmmm ( double hmmmmm ) ISMAC says the 306M is aluminum.

    Joe
    Nope, she is cast iron and is one hefty girl, made in Monza Italy. Her name is Sofia.
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    Just for my curiosity, have you stuck a magnet to her?

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    Yep. Magnets stick to her like ticks on a hound!
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    Joe, for the most part the letter after a model number does not indicate anything specific--other than the factory that it came out of. In this case, "M" for "Monza." So it's entirely possible the Monza factory also made aluminum 306s, which would still be badged as 306M's.

    If you do a Google Image search for "Singer 306" you'll see what they look like. The body is the same as the 319, but without the "typewriter" keys at the back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caroline S View Post
    Yep. Magnets stick to her like ticks on a hound!
    Excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vintage.Singers.NYC View Post
    Joe, for the most part the letter after a model number does not indicate anything specific--other than the factory that it came out of. In this case, "M" for "Monza." So it's entirely possible the Monza factory also made aluminum 306s, which would still be badged as 306M's.

    If you do a Google Image search for "Singer 306" you'll see what they look like. The body is the same as the 319, but without the "typewriter" keys at the back.
    Rain,

    Caroline posted a picture of hers and jogged my mind. We have a 319K here and I just forgot how similar the two were.

    Joe

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    Oh dear - now I'll have to go lift machines...
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first

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    Careful with that shoulder.

    My neck went crunch 4 or 5 days ago and my left shoulder and arm are alternately going numb or hurting like crazy. Makes sleeping a miserable joke.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Careful with that shoulder.

    My neck went crunch 4 or 5 days ago and my left shoulder and arm are alternately going numb or hurting like crazy. Makes sleeping a miserable joke.

    Joe
    you need to go somewhere and get a 'therapeutic' massage - it has helped me a LOT. I don't know if you have a school in your area or not - if you do - go and get the teacher to work you over. It might cost $75 or so to do it but it would be a good idea not to let it go.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first

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    237, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Other than the 206, did Singer make any cast iron bodied ZZ machines?
    All of them I've seen, and that we have, from the 319 up are aluminum.

    Joe
    Hi Joe,
    The Singer 237 is mostly cast iron except for a few plastic parts.
    Sharon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caroline S View Post
    Nope, she is cast iron and is one hefty girl, made in Monza Italy. Her name is Sofia.
    My, Sofia is one lovely girl---

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