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Thread: Is it real, or is it a clone?

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    Senior Member olebat's Avatar
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    Is it real, or is it a clone?

    This machine looks like a 25 clone to me, but the seller says it has been in his family for generations, bought about 1920.

    The selling price is $2580.00. It is in Athens, Greece. A serial number, JA91 4118 is stamped on the under carriage.

    Any one able to find info on this? I'm getting blanks.


    Here is the link.http://www.etsy.com/listing/12688693...sewing+machine
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    It looks to me like the modern reproductions being made in India. They make treadles and handcranks also, for the market without reliable electricity. I sincerely doubt they cost that much, more likely a few hundred.

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    My bet is a modern 15 clone also.

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    Might as well make it unanimous, it's a clone. A nice machine, but a clone non the less.

    Joe

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    It's not even worth $258.00 let alone $2580.00. And then risk getting a machine from Greece to the US ...

    Perhaps the Greeks are exploring new ways to build their economy. Lord knows they need it.
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    Run fast away from that one! It is definitely a clone. I wouldn't give $20 for it.

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    Be sure this is not some sort of scam.

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    I also vote for clone. It may sew nicely, but it sure isn't worth more than $100, if that. Probably more like $35 to $60 around here. No collector's value.

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    In my opinion,

    It's NOT rare.
    It's not a collectible.
    It's not valuable.
    It's most certainly not antique. Antique is 100 years or more. This might have been 1950s, and I'm giving it a lot of leeway. It could have been made last week, in India.

    I think the seller subscribes to the theory that there is a sucker born every minute. Don't buy it.

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    Greece? That alone would concern me. With the state of that country and their ethics with regards to their conscience, it wouldn't surprise me for it to be a very good imposter.

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    It is a nice looking machine and has a lovely face plate. It is a 15 clone. Absolutely not worth that kind of money.
    Yooper32 aka: Donna B

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    If you really want one, here's one for sale in the US for $240.00 with case. http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/atq/3674844993.html

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    see the knob on the bed next to the spool pin for bobbin winding? That knob is a dead give away for a 15 clone. But oh my! That price is way too much!.
    Sharon

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    Exactly what Purplefiend said. If you see the plastic feed dog drop on any black "Singer" or any vintage looking black machine tarted up with cheap decals such as this one, it is a clone. No black Singer ever had that knob and any vintage clones were modeled after the Singer so they don't have the knob either.

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    Whatever it is, it sure is pretty!

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