Singer 301 301A

Old 08-11-2012, 05:16 AM
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Default Singer 301 301A

Can anyone tell me the difference between a 301 and a 301A? And which one has the long bed, did they both come with it as an option? I was told they came out in 1950.

I think I might buy one of these(is it really a big sister to the FW), and the one I found doesn't have much information and the seller doesn't know anything about them. Is 150.00 too much to spend?

Of those that have one, do you use it for sewing and is it a good smooth machine for its age?

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Old 08-11-2012, 05:44 AM
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A good place to learn about the Singer 301s is http://singer301.com/about/default.html

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I have a mocha 301A short bed. I pd. $86.00 for her in a case and then I took it to my sewing machine man and he cleaned her all up and runs like a top for another $50.00. They are the big sister to the FW. I had two long beds in cabinets back before I knew better and sold them. But I got $100.00 each out of them. They handle just about any type of heavy sewing you want to do and I also have a black one that has the holder on it for in a cabinet. I pd $90.00 for her and she went from TX to KS then to WA before she came home to me. The seller used FED Ex and had a mix up and the machines were on a merry go round but evetually ended up where they needed to be, except the beauty that came to me was a Jones Hand Crank in a Bentwood case and was really beautiful. I shipped it to the guy and put ins and a track # on it and he sent it back to the lady in TX and it was ruined. He put the case in water and ruined it, I don't know if she ever got the machine to work again or not. Anyways, I am glad I had repacked it and insured it. He claimed that was how he got it, but he couldn't collect the ins from the PO. He pd almost $500 for her and went into a rage because it didn't arrive on time to him. Wasn't her fault. She was in wheelchair and sent it to Fed Ex to be shipped. So it all depends on what you are willing to pay for a machine, but if they are in good shape they will last a lot longer than us ole quilting ladies. Good luck with getting a good machine.
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:51 AM
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I love all my 301's. The difference in 301 and 301A is only where Singer manufactured them. They are slant needle machines that are great for piecing and fmq. You can maintain and replace parts yourself. No need for paying for servicing. Great for taking to class or retreats - very portable! The machines come with a long or short bed. The short beds do fit into cabinets - long beds don't. The long beds are much better if you don't have a cabinet. I have been looking for a long black bed to replace my short bed for traveling with. Hard to find! For pricing, I would try to get it down some. Also take into consideration if accessories come with it. Ebay has a lot of these. Check pricing for your area. The bobbin casing also fits the featherweight. Make sure that the machine has all bobbin parts - very important. You can purchase separate but the price should be reduced for missing parts. Good luck and please let me know if you need any additional information. Good luck!
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I paid $40 for mine, it needed cleaning and servicing. It had some tension issues, but since it has a new belt and the tension fixed, it's been running beautifully. It came with the original case (smelly and musty) and a whole set of attachments: Ruffler foot, binding foot, hemmer, buttonholer and cams, zig-zag attachment and cams.

The machine is so easy to use my children have been sewing with it, making small tote bags and stuffed animals.

Personally, I wouldn't pay $150 because that's out of my price range. But, if the machine is in pristine condition, with a table in very very good condition, AND it has every single original attachment with it, then it may be worth $150 to you.

If there are any defects or issues, you may be able to use those to negotiate a better price with the seller. I found a Necchi Supernova in the back room of a local Thrift shop, and the owner said he thought it was worth $100. It was filthy, some of the cams were broken, and the cabinet needs to be completely refinished. I told him I'd give him $40 and he said "Well... for YOU I'll go $40." Personally, I think he was just glad it wasn't taking up space in his back room anymore. So it never hurts to ask if the price is negotiable.
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My son and his girlfriend rescued my 301 in trapizod cabinet from curbside. Put out for trash pickup!!! I got the thread from around the bobbin case and she runs like a dream! So I guess free is a good price. LOL I have three now and havent paid over $100 for any of them. Good luck, you will LOVE sewing on one!!!
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My Mom still has her 301 that I sewed on years ago. Recently I cleaned and oiled it as it hadn't been used in over 35 years. Sews like a dream. I hope it will be mine one day.

If i'm not mistaken, short bed or long bed refers to the hinged platform to the left of the needle. If you're thinking one has a longer throat, they're both the same. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 08-11-2012, 07:18 AM
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There are many threads about the 301 if you use the Advanced Search feature you can read up. I own 5 of them.
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Old 08-11-2012, 07:32 AM
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Yep, it's place of manufacture. 301A was made in Andersonville, SC.
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301s are going up in price similar to what happened to the FWs several years ago. $150 sounds a little high, but not out of the question if you want a wonderful machine for piecing and FMQ. If you win an auction on ebay for $100, you have the concern of shipping damage and the price of shipping, so $125 would be reasonable.
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