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    what machine uses these cams?

    I was given these cams and I want to give them to someone who can use them. There is no indication on them or the box what make they are. Anyone know what machine uses them and is there anyone who can use them for their machines.
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    Those are the same cams my Dressmaker 7000 takes. I've seen at least one other badged machine that used them. I don't need them, but Miriam has one of those machines without cams. She might.

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    For us newbies. Whats a cam and why do you use them.

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    A cam can be either a removable, or built in, irregular shaped disk that when engaged creates a stitch pattern. Notice the irregular shape of those in the picture.
    Cams be be plastic or metal, separate or in a stack, large or small as in the picture.

    Modern machines use electronics or computers to do the stitch patterns, but the older vintage ones used the cams with mechanical linkage to make the patterns. Cams went out of vogue in the late 70s to early 80s I believe.

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    I had a computer user screw up and ran out of time so I'm continuing the post here:

    A cam can be either a removable, or built in, irregular shaped disk that when engaged creates a stitch pattern. Notice the irregular shape of those in the picture.
    Cams be be plastic or metal, separate or in a stack, large or small as in the picture.
    Kenmore cams:

    Unidentified cams:

    Singer flat (L) and top hat (R) cams:

    Dressmaker 7000 cams (like those in the original post):

    Montgomery Wards Signature w/cams and a stitch pattern sheet:



    Cams are used to make various decorative stitches such as these:
    This is my Alden Deluxe ZZ that has two built in cam stacks:

    You can see the two cam stacks in this picture:


    There are many variations of cams from mild to wild. Here is one more. This is a Dial 'n Sew 516 and it has one three lobed built in metal cam:


    Modern machines use electronics or computers to do the stitch patterns, but the older vintage ones used the cams with mechanical linkage to make the patterns. Cams went out of vogue in the late 70s to early 80s I believe.

    Joe

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    OK how do I find Miriam?
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    Well, look right here in this section or the Vintage Machine Shop section for "miriam". Then PM her.
    Or, here's the link to her profile: { http://www.quiltingboard.com/members/miriam-u31354.html }

    Joe
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    The unidentified cams look like the cams my friends Janome uses.

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    I have an older Montogomery Wards Signature machine & it uses cams that look very much like those. They make great decorative stitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Those are the same cams my Dressmaker 7000 takes. I've seen at least one other badged machine that used them. I don't need them, but Miriam has one of those machines without cams. She might.

    Joe
    I do need some for my Dressmaker.
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    Joe:

    That was impressive!

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    Joe,
    Love the selection of stitches from the Alden ZZ machine. Very cool and impressive.
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    Chris,

    That machine is one of my favorite Japanese ZZ machines. It's not overly simply, the controls are somewhat complicated but when everything gets set right it makes even more stitches than what I had on the felt sheet in the pic. I didn't have it totally figured out when I did that one.

    I've got my eyes out for a replacement left side cam stack though. They are plastic and there is a chip out of one pattern. That machine follows the cams so precisely that it actually shows the chip as regular repeating missing stitches.
    I doubt if I'll every find such a cam stack, but I'm watching for one.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Chris,

    That machine is one of my favorite Japanese ZZ machines. It's not overly simply, the controls are somewhat complicated but when everything gets set right it makes even more stitches than what I had on the felt sheet in the pic. I didn't have it totally figured out when I did that one.

    I've got my eyes out for a replacement left side cam stack though. They are plastic and there is a chip out of one pattern. That machine follows the cams so precisely that it actually shows the chip as regular repeating missing stitches.
    I doubt if I'll every find such a cam stack, but I'm watching for one.

    Joe
    Joe, Simply astounding about it following the chip as a regular repeating missing stitches. I doubt a new plastic wonder would even still sew with a chip. I only have a couple of vintage machines that do a ZZ stitch - most of mine are straight stitch only which is okay with me. Buried in my machine is a Kenmore with lots of cams and 2 Necchis both of which require cleaning and oiling - not to mention digging out!!
    I meant to behave......but there were too many other options

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    I've lost count of the machines we have that do decorative stitches. Some with built in cams like the Aldens and Singer 401, 500, 4622A, and others with removable cams. We keep looking for others with different patterns too.

    But the truth is I use my SS machines far more than the ZZ machines.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    I've lost count of the machines we have that do decorative stitches. Some with built in cams like the Aldens and Singer 401, 500, 4622A, and others with removable cams. We keep looking for others with different patterns too.

    But the truth is I use my SS machines far more than the ZZ machines.

    Joe
    Joe forgot about the 401s and Rocketeers that I have with cams. Again, need finding, cleaning, lubing and such. I mainly use my 301 for almost everything.

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    I meant to behave......but there were too many other options

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    I've lost count of the machines we have that do decorative stitches. Some with built in cams like the Aldens and Singer 401, 500, 4622A, and others with removable cams. We keep looking for others with different patterns too.

    But the truth is I use my SS machines far more than the ZZ machines.

    Joe
    Me too, but aren't they fun! I'm downsizing now and have e.g. a Kenmore 352 with cams for sale, one Dressmaker, sold a Kenmore 740 w. cams. And haven't begun to use them all. Just sold a Kenmore 158.1803 with monogrammer and great cams......ducks and other cute ones. And then there's the Elna SU 62 with it's 60-some cams I've acquired! And haven't begun to use them all but can't quite part with them yet. My faithful Necchi Supernova Ultra and SN Julia with many cams too. I think the Elna cams have the biggest variety with ducks, sailboats, and lots of cute ones. The nice thing about all these vintage beauties is that they're almost all with metal insides and will probably last forever! And, like Joe, the cams don't get used nearly enough. But they're fun!! My DIL has several Singers with cams, 401, 316G and others.
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    I prefer cams to cam stacks or electronics - they are usually a fairly simple machine.
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    I think I need them. I have a Dressmaker just like the one pictured and I don't have any cams for it. Would you advise. I want them it noone else has claimed them. Thanks. Please let me know.

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    I use to have a Kenmore in a cabinet that took cams,wish I wouldn't have given it away now.but I needed the room so I gave it to a friend that use to sew she just got rid of it even though she said she wanted it

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    Hi, Lynda,

    I have just purchased Dressmaker 7000 from Goodwill. It came without cams... I would like to get these if you still have them. Could you please let me know? thank you. Elena

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    Se if that machine works before you buy cams. Those are little cams with a slot on the bottom.
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    Those cams will fit almost any Taiwan made Dressmaker. The shape of the case is the clue, the case or the cams may be a different color than the ones shown.

    Cari

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