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Thread: copyright--another response from a creator

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    Thank you Sally, the reason I don't have all my patterns written is because I'm just way too busy with sewing customers, teaching classes getting my e b ay going and everything else. I will try your idea next time, thanks,Bernadette

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    Here you go, Roben: http://www.quiltbus.com/tabletopper.htm

    Thank you Bernadette and Sally for your recent posts! The whole issue of photo copying directions is the main concern from what I've learned, more so than the idea of making several of the pattern to sell. The designer is usually thinking about mass production on the selling part anyway.

    I think it's helpful to a designer when a quilter posts a photo of a new completed project and mentions where the pattern came from. I bet this site generates many sales of patterns. :D

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    I love looking at peoples sites going to look now :D :D I tried the e bay and the .com ....can't get there :?

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    Form the website Saly posted, this seems to be an important paragraph:

    You are free to use patterns from any book or magazine that you have purchased. However, if you make an exact copy or a close adaptation of an item from a pattern or book, the designer still owns the copyright on your work and you must ask that designer for permission to publicly display it. Many books and patterns will give permission "for personal use and non-profit use only." This means you can make an exact or a close item from the pattern and keep it, display it, give it to a friend or sell it. You cannot mass produce items from the pattern and sell them commercially.
    But, as much as that clear things up, is it saying we shouldn't be posting our work--other designer's work--on this forum? :?: :?: And what about quilt shows? I think that's where common sense comes in to play--and if someone tells where they bought the pattern, or the website they got it from--it's all good for the designer. I would think they'd be saying--"if you make this pattern--please display it anywhere you are able--just give me credit for the design and let them know where to find it." :wink:

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    This morning I'm singing the praises of designer Bonnie Hunter of http://Quiltville.com. What a sweetheart! One of the kits we wanted to make is Smokey Mountain Stars. Our desire is to enlarge the pattern and use our dies which would drastically change the directions. We wrote her, asked if it was ok. What we will do is to re-write the instructions using our dies, forward everything to her for approval and she is still the creator and it is her pattern. Her response is "fine with me". We will also put a link into her site so that people can look there if they like her design and want similar things.

    We have also seen kits made up that tell you where to buy the pattern. I think that is not a very cool thing but to each his own. When I get something new - I want to play with it NOW! I guess I'm spoiled - LOL

    As to the sell a quilted item, I'm not worrying too much about donating a quilt for a raffle, making half a dozen table runners for a church boutique. I believe that the main intent on selling is for manufacturers - thousands of something with those machines that quilt a queen in 1.5 minutes.
    Happy Stitching
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    Thanks so much for the link, Karla :D

    The paragraph you quoted is accurate. Following the strict interpretation, a designer owns the copyright to the work which includes derivative works (btw, there is no magic percentage; if I change it 33% then it is mine is a fallacy.) The rights include the right to display the work as well as allow others to display it, and reproduction rights. For money or for free isn't part of the equation.

    That being said; designers in all fiber media have had a long, on-going battle with persons who maliciously upload files of their work to newsgroups for any other member of the newsgroup to download. This isn't being done by accident, I assure you, nor is it new (it goes as far back as plastic canvas.) Becoming more strict on the copyright front is the only option left for designers who want to protect their work. To make matters worse, legitimate means of enforcing copyrights were hampered by the questionable practice of one coalition. There is a history here, and maybe knowing some of it will help others understand why restrictions that are in place now are necessary. Common sense went out the window with each file that was uploaded. (To this day the word 'share' makes me ill.)

    I encourage contacting designers regarding the use of their patterns for a reason: exerting control over your copyrights doesn't necessarily equal a 'no', and the only way to know for sure is to ask. There is no blanket answer, because each pattern maker is different. Some may have contracts with other entities that govern what happens with some of their work - while the person may be flattered that their design is being displayed, the big distributor they work with to get their patterns into stores may not be.

    For designers, it is a bit complicated; it doesn't need to be for consumers. Just ask! Keeping a file with the answers is a good idea too :wink:

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