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Thread: Vintage Sewing Machine Shop.....Come on in and sit a spell

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Yes, Candace I remember the seat you re-did - it is very cute now! I may keep the seat and re-do it, but not the cabinet. We can't put things out on a curb, we don't have a curb. I live on a small horse ranch with a gravel road about 1/2 mile long to get to the automatic gate to where our driveway starts! We have to make a dump haul anyway about once a year just to clean up!

    Ok, Melinda, Dan, and Candace, I tried the bobbin case for the 319w in the 306w - no go! Geeze, why would Singer do that? They both take the weird little 206x13 needles, and the weird 'L' bobbins - so why aren't the bobbin cases interchangeable? I am going to visit Sew Classic and see if I can tell the difference!

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    Quote Originally Posted by greywuuf View Post
    remember you might have a needle bar/timing issue as well. depends on how it is a no go.... just wont fit or the needle hitting.
    No, I put the correct needles in - no hitting - clears perfectly. But, without a bobbin case I won't know if the machine sews or not! I just checked Sew Classic - it appears the 306w has to have the open bobbin case!

    Cathy, do you have one I could buy? I don't trust trying to buy one from anyone else in case it is advertised wrong! Looking at Sew Classic - it appears the 306w uses the open bobbin cases and the 306k the closed bobbin cases? Makes no sense to me.

    Nancy
    Last edited by BoJangles; 05-22-2012 at 04:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    strip off all the hardware before you haul it to the dump.
    Yes, Miriam, we will strip it first.

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    you may still have a problem, putting in the correct needle will not retime it and correct the needle bar height if it was previously "adjusted"

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    Quote Originally Posted by greywuuf View Post
    you may still have a problem, putting in the correct needle will not retime it and correct the needle bar height if it was previously "adjusted"
    Yes, I know Dan, but until I can try to sew with the machine how would I know? The machine seems to run fine with no thread. I will just have to wait until I get the correct bobbin case and see what happens. I am concerned, though, like I said there is a receipt from a Singer repair shop for "re-timing" the machine in 1976. There were lots of packages of needles with the machine - none of them the right ones for this machine. If it has been re-timed to use 15x1's wouldn't that be ok?

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    Nancy per the Vintage Singer Group The 306K and the 306W do not always use the same bobbin case. The 306W use
    bobbin case # 105032 -- the open front one.

    The 306K and the 319 use #173058, the closed front bobbin case. Though, some machines can interchange...Singer started switching out the hook assemblies of the models some time during manufacturing. Did you get a 306K or W?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Yes, I know Dan, but until I can try to sew with the machine how would I know? The machine seems to run fine with no thread. I will just have to wait until I get the correct bobbin case and see what happens. I am concerned, though, like I said there is a receipt from a Singer repair shop for "re-timing" the machine in 1976. There were lots of packages of needles with the machine - none of them the right ones for this machine. If it has been re-timed to use 15x1's wouldn't that be ok?

    Nancy
    Retiming of these is a touchy subject..but generally speaking a retimed machine to take 15 needles is not what I would want. Singer manufactured and made these machines to take the special needles and messing with that will only lessen the stitch quality. Most Singer lovers get really riled when the subject comes up, honestly. But, if it has been retimed, the 15 needle should work with the correct bobbin case in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Linda, I hope you didn't really buy class 15 bobbins for your FW and 301? Class 15 bobbins fit the class 15 machines, the 15 clones, and a few other machines. They won't work in a FW nor a 301. The FW and the 301 use a special bobbin made just for those machines!

    Nancy
    Well, maybe I didn't buy Class 15 bobbins. This is what I bought from Sew-Classics:

    http://shop.sew-classic.com/Bobbins-...?categoryId=-1

    Will these bobbins fit other Singer machines in addition to my FW and 301 machines?

    Linda

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    Quote Originally Posted by SewExtremeSeams View Post
    Well, maybe I didn't buy Class 15 bobbins. This is what I bought from Sew-Classics:

    http://shop.sew-classic.com/Bobbins-...?categoryId=-1

    Will these bobbins fit other Singer machines in addition to my FW and 301 machines?
    No sorry Linda, but the bobbins that fit the FW's and 301's are unique to those machines. They won't work on any other machine.

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace View Post
    Nancy per the Vintage Singer Group The 306K and the 306W do not always use the same bobbin case. The 306W use
    bobbin case # 105032 -- the open front one.

    The 306K and the 319 use #173058, the closed front bobbin case. Though, some machines can interchange...Singer started switching out the hook assemblies of the models some time during manufacturing. Did you get a 306K or W?
    Yep, just my luck! I have the 319w and now the 306w - which don't use the same bobbin case! I am glad I did not know that when I bought this machine - I may have passed it by! Jeese! I love learning, and these machines amaze me all the time! What was Singer thinking? Making 3 machines almost identical, but with different bobbin cases? No wonder these machines didn't make it for long!

    Nancy

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