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Thread: Vintage Sewing Machine Shop.....Come on in and sit a spell

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    My Kroil came from Meijers (big box store) in with the gun cleaning tools. It's done a good job on the 66 - just one screw is being difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose View Post
    My Kroil came from Meijers (big box store) in with the gun cleaning tools. It's done a good job on the 66 - just one screw is being difficult.
    did you try heat?
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts. Winston Churchill

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    Quote Originally Posted by treadlep View Post
    I believe the Richmond treadle is actually a badged National---the medallion is specific to National rather than Davis from what I've read on this board. On my Richmond, it came with Eldredge needles, and the shuttle holder is stamped Eldredge, also a National machine. I guess we don't know for sure, just my opinion.
    treadlep, You are right and I have to eat my words. I have so many machines I get confused sometimes(senior moment. I now have sent her the correct manual for her machine.
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    I posted the other day that a singer 12 bobbin will fit a Frister and Rossmann. I forgot to add one very important item. You need to drill a small hole in one end of the bobbin to accept the pin in the bobbin winder clamp in order for the bobbin to turn properly. This is very easy to do with a small dremel bit. Yes and they do work just fine in the Fand R. Sorry Steve I forgot to tell you this in the PM. Just another senior moment. I just have to much in my head to keep it all straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treadlep View Post
    So, that is my Richmond treadle in the picture you found, so you probably also found my previous posts that show my cabinet that is different than yours, and that have info I had found on my research. I wanted to let you know that this machine takes a non-standard sewing machine needle size: the eldredge needles are a bit longer than the normal 15x1 needle. However, I have been successful using standard 15x1 needles that are not inserted all the way to the top of the needle slot. The old eldredge needles are hard to find. I found some at a local sewing machine shop, but none since, and there were a few with the machine when I got it. I have one needle marked with a sharpie that serves as a guide to mark 15x1 needles, so I know how far to insert them.

    The paperwork with my richmond indicates the same department store in New York. My machine belonged to my great grandmother, and later some great-aunts who lived in a small town in upstate New York near Cooperstown. After her last sister died, my grandmother went back to close out the family home, and the treadle was shipped to me in California when I was in my twenties. I have had it since the late 1980s, it works great, and as you can see it is in very good shape. I keep it cleaned and oiled since I did an original deep clean, and use it on occasion.

    As far as age, my treadle base has a wooden footman, which others on this board say indicates the machine is pre-1900. That would make sense based on my family history timeline, and I would guess it entered the household sometime in the 1890s to early 1900s.

    Enjoy your treadle---mine seems pretty indestructible, so if you've got yours up and running that's a good sign you can clean it up and use it for years. I'm constantly amazed to look at the old richmond and know that it is over 100 years old!
    Thanks. We received ours this past week. We knew it belonged to my great grandmother, but after receiving we confirmed put suspicions that it belonged to her mother, my great great grandmother before her. Someone else originally bought, but we are not sure whether it was in the family or if my great great grandmother bought it used. When my great grandmother died in 1991 it was supposed to go to my ,other, however a mixup ended with us only getting it this past week almost 22 years later. Mine isn't in near as good of condition as yours, most of he decals are worn off. However I sewed a little more on a quilt I have been working on today, and it sews great. I like it better than my modern singer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frudemoo View Post
    Well, I had a thorough look at my Necchi Supernova Automatica machine last night and it's the first machine I've ever owned that was as dirty as a barbecue! The other machines I've come to own have seemed more clean and dry, even if they are dirty in areas and have packed in lint etc. This one is like a grease pit!! All the lint and dirt is stuck on with this brown grease.
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    Am I attempting to get all the parts back to 'shiny and new' or just 'serviceable'? ....and what should I be using to remove it? ...

    I hope someone out there will be patient enough to explain this stuff to me.
    So, forgive me for re-quoting my own post, but with the discussion about Kroil and Tri-flow, I'm wondering if I should be using Kroil to sort of 'de-gunge' and then Tri-flow to re-lubricate. Am I reading that correctly? I'm about to go shopping to an Auto Parts store so can pick up anything I need from there. I'd love t see if the machine actually would work once it was clean!!

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    use the T-F where ever you can and use Kroil where you have to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Grant,

    That's good to know. So it does have a shelf life. I guess I shouldn't lay in a life time supply of it then.

    Joe
    I bet that only applies to the dry lube formula. Or to the aerosol propellant in the can. Something that could settle, evaporate, or clog the nozzle. Personally, as long as I could get it to come out of the can or bottle I would be using it. Teflon (PTFE) is inert. Mineral oil should have much longer than 3 years shelf life. I suppose there might be something in the oil carrier that possibly can go a little acidic or something. Bu I kind of doubt that this is anything more than a "freshness date issue." Unfortunately, I don't have time to go do a lot of Googleing tonight.

    okay eta: Some PTFE lubes have corrosion inhibitors and possible those weaken w/age. But I think it would take much more than 3 years for significant change. The bigger issue seems to be that a petroleum-base carrier for the PTFE can go gummy. That is my take on it from reading a weapons lube FAQ here: http://www.mil-comm.com/index.php?op...d=29&Itemid=43
    Question: What’s the shelf-life of your weapon lubricants?

    ANSWER: TW25B (and its derivatives) have earned a unique “No Known Shelf-Life” qualification from the U.S. Department of Defense (Defense Logistics Agency “DLA”). It contains NO petroleum ingredients which are what ages in a lubricant and results in it eventually turning into a gummy, tacky, problematic coating.
    Personally, I don't think either one is a real serious issue for a sewing machine. Unless it's just sitting on display, it's getting use and all the joints are going to be doing a lot of moving and also people will oil their machines as they use them. I have never read any anecdotes of TriFlow corroded / plugged up my machine, and I've been cleaning up old machines since 1998.

    But I am open to other opinions.
    Last edited by MadCow333; 05-09-2013 at 06:13 PM.

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    Quick question for folks... Is there a prohibition against posting a "want list" thread?

    For example, there are some items that I am always on the hunt for, If we could post a thread where folks could list what they are seeking (NOT what they have available, because that becomes a "sales thing" ) we could do some connecting.

    The good old "Oh, You are looking for X? I have 11 of them.. want a couple? PM Me" could happen more often.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveH View Post
    Quick question for folks... Is there a prohibition against posting a "want list" thread?

    For example, there are some items that I am always on the hunt for, If we could post a thread where folks could list what they are seeking (NOT what they have available, because that becomes a "sales thing" ) we could do some connecting.

    The good old "Oh, You are looking for X? I have 11 of them.. want a couple? PM Me" could happen more often.

    Thoughts?
    I don't see why we couldn't have one in the Vintage section ... the "main" QB section has an "In Search of" forum where folks list fabrics they are looking for. Often times the found fabric morphs into a sale or a trade.
    May your stitches always be straight, your seams always lie flat, and your grain never be biased against you.

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