Does anybody buy life insurance anymore?
#11
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What bothers me about term insurance, which is what we, DH & I have, is that after 20 years of paying on it, it stops. I bought insurance back in the early 2000s. I've paid on it about ten years. I just found out a year ago that if I live into my 80s, the insurance will not be good. What???????? We have insurance because if one of us dies, there will be money to pay off the house. It's not about giving our kids money.
#12
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Term life insurance is really month-to-month insurance and builds no cash value. However, because it does not build cash value, it is cheaper than whole life and you can usually get more insurance bang for your buck. It's the right kind of insurance to many people because of that alone. It is especially good to have term life if you are in good health, young and have a family to provide for - again, more insurance bang for the buck.
Some feel that whole life is a better buy than term insurance because it builds cash value. I'm not one of those people. Why? Because all of the whole life insurance policies take a LONG time to build cash value, are heavily front loaded with the sales persons commission and pay almost nothing in interest. (Although, at this time, Whole life policies might pay more interest than banks!)
I have no doubt that your term life insurer will, after your 20 years are up, try to get you to convert the term life ins to either a whole life policy (more money and commissions!) or sell you a new term life policy for many more $$$ a month.
Having said that, I took my 401K and put it into a variable annuity that a) includes a life insurance policy on me and my husband, b) is invested to make more $$, c) the amount the annuity is based on will reset upward by 7% simple interest every year for the first 10 years or to whatever the investments value is on the anniversary, if the investment value is greater than the 7% simple interest. d) I can withdraw the money from it if I want, e) if I die before drawing on the annuity, my beneficiaries will get the money. f) If i die after starting to draw on the annuity, my beneficiaries will get the balance of the annuity.
I got that in August 2008, just before the market crashed...that policy is no longer sold!
NOTE: Before purchasing an annuity of any kind, make sure that it will pay out your money to your beneficiaries if you were to pass away before you start drawing the annuity. Some annuities don't. They just pocket your money and wave good by to your family.
Some feel that whole life is a better buy than term insurance because it builds cash value. I'm not one of those people. Why? Because all of the whole life insurance policies take a LONG time to build cash value, are heavily front loaded with the sales persons commission and pay almost nothing in interest. (Although, at this time, Whole life policies might pay more interest than banks!)
I have no doubt that your term life insurer will, after your 20 years are up, try to get you to convert the term life ins to either a whole life policy (more money and commissions!) or sell you a new term life policy for many more $$$ a month.
Having said that, I took my 401K and put it into a variable annuity that a) includes a life insurance policy on me and my husband, b) is invested to make more $$, c) the amount the annuity is based on will reset upward by 7% simple interest every year for the first 10 years or to whatever the investments value is on the anniversary, if the investment value is greater than the 7% simple interest. d) I can withdraw the money from it if I want, e) if I die before drawing on the annuity, my beneficiaries will get the money. f) If i die after starting to draw on the annuity, my beneficiaries will get the balance of the annuity.
I got that in August 2008, just before the market crashed...that policy is no longer sold!
NOTE: Before purchasing an annuity of any kind, make sure that it will pay out your money to your beneficiaries if you were to pass away before you start drawing the annuity. Some annuities don't. They just pocket your money and wave good by to your family.
#13
We have life insurance so our bills can be paid. No funerals or burials, just a waste of money and ground. We own a business and kids will need money to continue it and of course paying taxes. Taxes you owe do not end with your death. We have a trust.
#14
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: central Indiana
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Oh my, yes! We have a combination of term and whole life! We have big policies on DH and myself and smaller policies on each of our three kids (grown now but we still pay the premiums on them). Sometimes I complain that we are 'insurance poor'.
#15
I think a term life insurance makes sense when you're young and have children. As you approach age 50, the numbers don't add up for me. You can sock away that monthly payment in an account and be as well off. I carefully look over every pitch I get for life insurance, and I've never found one that holds up under careful scrutiny with a calculator.
And could someone please tell me what this often-heard statement means: "Your premiums will never increase due to your age." Okay. So under what circumstances can they increase?
And could someone please tell me what this often-heard statement means: "Your premiums will never increase due to your age." Okay. So under what circumstances can they increase?
#16
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So what happens to the surviving spouse IF the other passes and they are one e of the breadwinners?? w/o life insurance, the surviving spouse may find themselves going back to work if they dont already work. Life insurance also provides income live on and not just for paying final expenses, etc.
Long Term Care insurance is an entirely different policy for covering nursing home expenses, if the need arises. One has to READ the policy before signing up. they don't always cover the expenses you " think" they will cover.
Notice that i did not mention "children" of the spouses??? Assuming most of here do not have minor kids vs. grown ones.
Sandy
Long Term Care insurance is an entirely different policy for covering nursing home expenses, if the need arises. One has to READ the policy before signing up. they don't always cover the expenses you " think" they will cover.
Notice that i did not mention "children" of the spouses??? Assuming most of here do not have minor kids vs. grown ones.
Sandy
#17
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Location: Norfolk, VA
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I think a term life insurance makes sense when you're young and have children. As you approach age 50, the numbers don't add up for me. You can sock away that monthly payment in an account and be as well off. I carefully look over every pitch I get for life insurance, and I've never found one that holds up under careful scrutiny with a calculator.
And could someone please tell me what this often-heard statement means: "Your premiums will never increase due to your age." Okay. So under what circumstances can they increase?
And could someone please tell me what this often-heard statement means: "Your premiums will never increase due to your age." Okay. So under what circumstances can they increase?
Also, be aware that not all states have the same laws about responsibilities to bills etc when either the spouse or parent dies. You need to find out what your survivors would be responsible for when deciding what to do. I wouldn't want to make anyone that I cared about have a hardship because I was trying to save money (if I had any) while I was alive. I'd rather live on a very fixed income before I'd do that to them.
Last edited by romanojg; 09-24-2013 at 05:14 AM.
#18
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Horse Country, FL
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My DH and I have carried life insurance policies on ourselves until now, our main objective was to provide for the kids in case one of both of us died. Our kids are now grown and we are re-thinking our need for life insurance. We are both 61 and insurance to cover us until age 83 is $175 a month. What sorts of things do we need to consider, age, health, will we outlast the policy?? Anything else we haven't thought considered. Not sure we need it??? Anyone have information that might help?
#19
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Lebanon Missouri
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We are both in our 70's and don't have life ins. Our assets are specified as P.O.D. and would cover funeral expense and other misc. bills till estate is settled. I would save the $175/mo in an account to help with those items. I guess it all depends on your financial situation. I personally thing life ins. is a rip off after the kids are raised unless there is NO kind of income for surviving spouse. I'm sure an insurance salesman would give you an entirely different perspective!
#20
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 353
No life insurance here, our home is paid for, our arrangements are set and all our son has to do is have a for sale sign put up, he can give it away for all I care. He educated himself into a great career and has never been a material person. I've never been a fan of ANY insurance but as we know, some is mandatory. As stated before, be sure your insurance is good after a certain age. Much of it is not and it takes a legal eagle to get though all the unintelligible language where it says, not covered. Same way with homeowners! Especially that one!
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