Home Schooling
05-17-2019, 10:00 AM
#61
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That is not the case with these boys.
One of them was in school through 3rd grade and doing ok. He wasn't a star pupil, but he made friends, expressed his opinions, made decisions on the small stuff and was interested in the world around him. He was sociable, but needed some time to warm up to both the situation and the people around him. My 71 year old husband is like that, and he does not suffer from severe anxiety.
Once home schooled, his parents, despite saying that they would get the kids involved with teams, projects, etc. outside of school, did nothing to encourage any activity outside of the home. They always had an excuse for not doing so - most of them amounted to "I don't want to". They actively encourage the fear of school and people by threatening to send them to public school. I don't think the parents have a clue about how devastating their overall attitude has been to the boys. Unfortunately, the parents are 'all about me' types. They will never understand what they have done to those boys.
The first year of home schooling neither boy was doing any of the work because neither parent could be bothered. Mom got sick and had surgery so I went out to help out. The only reason the kids got started on the school work is that i made it my priority to get them going. The shy one was so eager to learn that it astounded me. He managed the entire school years worth of work from end of January to June 1. That was after telling me he had short term memory problems - diagnosed by a so-called learning disability expert. My response to that was, "Me, too. But I know how to help you with that." No one ever just sat down with him to explain how to study. He didn't understand why text was bolded, italicized, in tables, etc. Once encouraged, he was amazed at what he could do. So was I.
The younger one, who has Aspergers, is very bright. He told me he didn't have to do school and he was smarter than me. His mother encouraged that feeling in him. I dealt with it through concrete examples. For instance, he could do amazing math on a calculater. So I wrote out a couple of 3 digit addition/subtraction problems and asked him to solve them. He had no idea what to do. A day and a half later, he could actually do addition and subtraction. He is smart!
His temper tantrums ran the home, so I gently disciplined him - it took 1.5 days to modify his behavior with me. I have no idea how he behaves at home now, but when he is with me he's a great kid.
Parents of a home schooled child make a huge difference in the success of the home schooling.
One of them was in school through 3rd grade and doing ok. He wasn't a star pupil, but he made friends, expressed his opinions, made decisions on the small stuff and was interested in the world around him. He was sociable, but needed some time to warm up to both the situation and the people around him. My 71 year old husband is like that, and he does not suffer from severe anxiety.
Once home schooled, his parents, despite saying that they would get the kids involved with teams, projects, etc. outside of school, did nothing to encourage any activity outside of the home. They always had an excuse for not doing so - most of them amounted to "I don't want to". They actively encourage the fear of school and people by threatening to send them to public school. I don't think the parents have a clue about how devastating their overall attitude has been to the boys. Unfortunately, the parents are 'all about me' types. They will never understand what they have done to those boys.
The first year of home schooling neither boy was doing any of the work because neither parent could be bothered. Mom got sick and had surgery so I went out to help out. The only reason the kids got started on the school work is that i made it my priority to get them going. The shy one was so eager to learn that it astounded me. He managed the entire school years worth of work from end of January to June 1. That was after telling me he had short term memory problems - diagnosed by a so-called learning disability expert. My response to that was, "Me, too. But I know how to help you with that." No one ever just sat down with him to explain how to study. He didn't understand why text was bolded, italicized, in tables, etc. Once encouraged, he was amazed at what he could do. So was I.
The younger one, who has Aspergers, is very bright. He told me he didn't have to do school and he was smarter than me. His mother encouraged that feeling in him. I dealt with it through concrete examples. For instance, he could do amazing math on a calculater. So I wrote out a couple of 3 digit addition/subtraction problems and asked him to solve them. He had no idea what to do. A day and a half later, he could actually do addition and subtraction. He is smart!
His temper tantrums ran the home, so I gently disciplined him - it took 1.5 days to modify his behavior with me. I have no idea how he behaves at home now, but when he is with me he's a great kid.
Parents of a home schooled child make a huge difference in the success of the home schooling.
05-17-2019, 12:19 PM
#62
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Originally Posted by leonf
Men only have one sin???? Gee< I thought I had a lot more than that.
crazy huh? as someone who comes from a family that leans heavily towards the male side and I have male siblings and my best friend for years have usually been males, I was truly stunned that she'd never been around them. She and her sisters didn't spring up out of the ground so she must have had a father at some point!
05-17-2019, 01:19 PM
#63
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Originally Posted by sewbizgirl
Ha ha... I have to shake my head at some of the 'opinions' of those who have had no experience homeschooling, whatsoever. I home educated all three of my children during the 90's and 2000's and finished up when the last one graduated in 2008. I'm sad to see the same old fallacies about homeschooling are still alive and well.
Actually, the "insular world" is in the institutional classroom, where the kids are surrounded by only those of their same age, every day of their life. If they weren't confined to that environment for the vast majority of their waking hours (not to mention tied up with hours more of homework once they get home), they might have time to learn all the other important aspects of life... cooking, building, gardening, raising animals, learning a trade with mom or dad, volunteer work, fine arts training, or whatever their natural leanings are. They would not be subject to "group think" and indoctrination of what is "correct" according to someone who the government hired to "educate" them. They instead grow and flourish within the values of their parents.
In reality, you don't need nearly as much time to educate a child every day when you don't have to waste time dealing with the kids who act out (at worst), or just can't keep up with your child's learning level (at best). It is not necessary to replicate the format of public school, and is not even beneficial.
Home educating families are more often than not part of local support groups with other HE families. There are tons of opportunities to "socialize", learn together, take field trips and just gather to have play days. They are also with peers in church and community sports teams. The concept that HE kids are just kept in a box, is ridiculous. And they are out in society so much more than kids confined to the classroom. They are unfettered! They are commonly very comfortable conversing with people of all ages, especially adults. They have a huge 'leg up' on being productive adult citizens. And they, in large percentage, do become leaders as adults.
School can really harm a child's natural love of learning by boring them, day after day after day.
So I'm offering a few thoughts that may be new to some... from someone who has lived the home educating life.
Actually, the "insular world" is in the institutional classroom, where the kids are surrounded by only those of their same age, every day of their life. If they weren't confined to that environment for the vast majority of their waking hours (not to mention tied up with hours more of homework once they get home), they might have time to learn all the other important aspects of life... cooking, building, gardening, raising animals, learning a trade with mom or dad, volunteer work, fine arts training, or whatever their natural leanings are. They would not be subject to "group think" and indoctrination of what is "correct" according to someone who the government hired to "educate" them. They instead grow and flourish within the values of their parents.
In reality, you don't need nearly as much time to educate a child every day when you don't have to waste time dealing with the kids who act out (at worst), or just can't keep up with your child's learning level (at best). It is not necessary to replicate the format of public school, and is not even beneficial.
Home educating families are more often than not part of local support groups with other HE families. There are tons of opportunities to "socialize", learn together, take field trips and just gather to have play days. They are also with peers in church and community sports teams. The concept that HE kids are just kept in a box, is ridiculous. And they are out in society so much more than kids confined to the classroom. They are unfettered! They are commonly very comfortable conversing with people of all ages, especially adults. They have a huge 'leg up' on being productive adult citizens. And they, in large percentage, do become leaders as adults.
School can really harm a child's natural love of learning by boring them, day after day after day.
So I'm offering a few thoughts that may be new to some... from someone who has lived the home educating life.
05-27-2019, 04:03 PM
#65
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I homeschool our kids and have since the beginning. I have a bachelor of science in child development, not teaching. We started homeschooling because I knew I could get my oldest off to a good start if she learned to read well. As the years went on, she never wanted to go to school. She liked getting up, doing school and spending the afternoons doing art. My oldest is an art major and just finished her third year at the local state university. She’s maintaining a 3.75 GPA and has earned two art scholarships. She chose the local university over a private school and another college so she could live at home and continue to be involved with her friends and our church. The hardest part of going to college for her? The blatant disrespect for authority and the plethora of uses for the f-bomb.
My younger two are still being homeschooled. One will be a senior and one will be a freshman this fall. How do I teach things I don’t remember? I learn alongside them. I’ve learned more history teaching my own kids than I ever learned in a classroom. My husband teaches all the math after Algebra2. We are not in a coop, because I find them to not be worth it. We have stuff to learn and don’t have time to waste. My middle child did take an advanced biology class another homeschool dad taught and she loved it. She didn’t love some of the disruptive kids in the class tho. Lol
i don’t worry a bit about socialization. My kids will talk to anyone and can carry on conversations with people of all ages, not just their peers. We are very involved in our church, in archery and they have many friends. I’m convinced that they’re getting a far better education in our home than they’d be getting in our gang filled public school here. No thank you.
My younger two are still being homeschooled. One will be a senior and one will be a freshman this fall. How do I teach things I don’t remember? I learn alongside them. I’ve learned more history teaching my own kids than I ever learned in a classroom. My husband teaches all the math after Algebra2. We are not in a coop, because I find them to not be worth it. We have stuff to learn and don’t have time to waste. My middle child did take an advanced biology class another homeschool dad taught and she loved it. She didn’t love some of the disruptive kids in the class tho. Lol
i don’t worry a bit about socialization. My kids will talk to anyone and can carry on conversations with people of all ages, not just their peers. We are very involved in our church, in archery and they have many friends. I’m convinced that they’re getting a far better education in our home than they’d be getting in our gang filled public school here. No thank you.
05-30-2019, 10:24 AM
#66
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Location: from the San Joaquin Valley in California
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There are so many wonderful responses to this question...My Grandson in Law was home schooled as were his 5 syblings. He was a president's scholar at a private university and is working on his Doctorate of Divinity.
My son/daughter in law home school their two children, perhaps out of necessity. She runs a private daycare and she lives in a neighborhood were her children would have to walk a very busy and not too safe few blocks to and from school. My son has his own business and would drive them to school and back. After 2 years of this..common core came in. My daughter in law spent hours in the evening helping him with his school work...so after much of this they decided to home school. They did the boy/girls scout thing, choir, piano/guitar lessons, gardening, him wood working and her sewing..(guess who her teacher was). My son runs a football team so grandson (12) played football, granddaughter (10) was in cheerleading..
They have school group outings and I think that it works for them...my daughter on the other hand says, I go to work to stay sane, haha..she has three children 9, 5 & 3..
My son/daughter in law home school their two children, perhaps out of necessity. She runs a private daycare and she lives in a neighborhood were her children would have to walk a very busy and not too safe few blocks to and from school. My son has his own business and would drive them to school and back. After 2 years of this..common core came in. My daughter in law spent hours in the evening helping him with his school work...so after much of this they decided to home school. They did the boy/girls scout thing, choir, piano/guitar lessons, gardening, him wood working and her sewing..(guess who her teacher was). My son runs a football team so grandson (12) played football, granddaughter (10) was in cheerleading..
They have school group outings and I think that it works for them...my daughter on the other hand says, I go to work to stay sane, haha..she has three children 9, 5 & 3..
05-30-2019, 10:40 AM
#67
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Location: Waterford Michigan
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I know well a young person Theresa, that just graduated high school this week. She was homeschooled her entire education. She has excelled in all areas. I was fascinated to see she was able to participate in sports programs through the local school district. Her siblings are also being homeschooled. Her parents reasoning were much the same as others have written here. My BIL also homeschooled all 6 of his children through high school. Their's was for religious reasons. I alway felt they were somewhat isolated because they lived in a rural area. Theresa, on the other hand was well socialized with not only the church but a lot of people in her neighborhood. Theresa will also be going for her license as a cosmetologist. She completed this program while in high school too, putting her ahead of the majority of high school graduates. She will begin studies in the fall at our local community collage. All of these kids have done well and are successful.
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