Paying More -- Getting Less
#31
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I have a slightly different take on this. Junk food that is now in smaller portions is better for you, not that I don't agree about getting ripped off. But we are way too fat in this country. Junk food and portion size are two very good reasons for it. But I will stop b/c I don't want to get into the health reasons....... :D Can anyone tell I'm a nurse?? :D
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The packaging size and keeping the price the same or a bit more is a way of deceiving the public. Make more on less is the issue here. We the consumer are duped. Sure portions are an issue in our diet today, but don't try to slip it by us with keeping the price the same and give less, like we won't notice!
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All of your points are so valid, and I couldn't agree more. One thing that gets me is that no one seems to understand that one of the biggest feeds into rising prices is the ongoing demands for raising the minimum wage laws. Why don't people realize that every time the minimum wage is raised, the cost of living goes up even more? Sure the minimum wage worker is taking home a little more money, but they are now having to pay out more than that to buy necessities, as are the rest of us, who didn't get a raise at all. Do people really think that raise is going to come out of the employer's pockets or the investors' profits? Of course it's not! They are simply going to pass that increased cost on to we the consumers. And no matter who the first line consumer is of any product, sooner or later, it filters down to you and I. And we are the ones paying the higher prices for smaller amounts, lower quality, etc. Oh, my, yes.. this does get my GRRRRR up!!
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You maayalso find this interesting,. I live in California now since 1989. In 1994 I changed carrees and started driving Semi long haul. West coast to east coast. Did this 14 years, till mom fell ill . I am fenale now 51yrs.old. My longtime mate still drives. We hauled produce from here and Nogales to out east I am from Chicago, by the way. Even after all the freight charges put on those loads that produce and fruit is still cheaper to buy out there then in the state of California where it was grown. When my mom passes on I am moving back to the midwest. Boyfriend finally realized how expensive his state of birth is here.
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Originally Posted by BellaBoo
I check the bottom of the jars and containers. Many have a big indent in the bottom to hold less product but still make the container look big. That really makes me mad!
Originally Posted by EllaBud
The majority of items at the supermarket are convenience foods and yes, you pay for that luxury. My parents had a large garden, my mother canned, made all bread, cake, pies, etc. We only went to the market for meat, milk, cheese, fruit and other items that we couldn't get otherwise.
Granted, back then people weren't paying $200 - $300/month for cell phones, cable TV and Internet access.
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Originally Posted by wildyard
One thing that gets me is that no one seems to understand that one of the biggest feeds into rising prices is the ongoing demands for raising the minimum wage laws. Why don't people realize that every time the minimum wage is raised, the cost of living goes up even more?
If you don't allow people a living wage, then we all only have to subsidize them for the things they can't afford, such as housing (public housing projects), healthcare, food (food stamps), childcare, etc. This happens through public benefit programs, through tax credits, through charity drives.
And you do get lower quality, because only the most inexperienced and desperate of people will take those jobs. And once they can, they leave for something better, so you lose any experience and skills they develop. But give them a living wage for their work, and they will stay and you'll get the quality that comes when they develop expertise at their jobs.
You're not wrong. When overhead, whether it's the cost of supplies or rent or wages, goes up, businesses almost always pass the cost on right to the customers. Or they lay people off or cut corners on quality or quantity.
IMO there just has to be a better solution than not paying people enough to live on. Part of that is making those at the top accountable for their bonuses and perks. Part of that is realizing that not every publicly-owned company (stock market companies) should always grow in value. There's this idea that corporations have a lifecycle, and once they stop growing, they die. There is just no reason they can't reach their "right size" and sustain that - except that then the stockholders sell their stock and the company's paper value goes down. Oh my, such a shame.
Sorry, I've gone into a rambling rant here. Stopping now.
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Originally Posted by wildyard
All of your points are so valid, and I couldn't agree more. One thing that gets me is that no one seems to understand that one of the biggest feeds into rising prices is the ongoing demands for raising the minimum wage laws. Why don't people realize that every time the minimum wage is raised, the cost of living goes up even more? Sure the minimum wage worker is taking home a little more money, but they are now having to pay out more than that to buy necessities, as are the rest of us, who didn't get a raise at all. Do people really think that raise is going to come out of the employer's pockets or the investors' profits? Of course it's not! They are simply going to pass that increased cost on to we the consumers. And no matter who the first line consumer is of any product, sooner or later, it filters down to you and I. And we are the ones paying the higher prices for smaller amounts, lower quality, etc. Oh, my, yes.. this does get my GRRRRR up!!
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I agree that everyone should be able to earn a wage that they can live on; I just don't think that raising minimum wage gives anyone a liveable wage. As Wildyard previously said, when minimum wage is raised so is the cost of living (food, rent, clothing, etc.) It's hard to believe that there isn't a viable solution. No American should be going hungry.
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