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    Senior Member nana20010's Avatar
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    hi i have a grandson in the bears scotwho is selling popcorn and the dean leader says they have to sell 325.00 in pop cornor it comes out of there pocket is there any den leaders out there and can they do this i thought these thing were to teach our kids resopibelt not how to be monny hungery

    thanks for listing to a old women

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    That doesn't sound right to me either... Maybe call the local boy scout organization and ask them?

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    I really dislike this form of fundraising. When I did PTA, we tried to cut out the middleman profits so it all went to the school and students. I wish I could offer you some advice. There is no way they can charge you for this if you haven't accepted the merchandise.

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    I have to say that is just wrong in many ways. Maybe you need to contact the main head quarters and ask about this.

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    I hate the way Scouts , schools, and other activities do that! It takes the enjoyment out of it for the kids, puts preasure on them and the parents, and causes a reduction in these activities, because of that very reason. Very sad! Who can afford to put out that kind of cash!

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    This is not something they can require. My DD is a den leader and she is going to try to get some info for you. She says the boys don't even have to sell anything if they don't want to. She is a den leader for her boys troupe and for her DDs girl scout troupe.

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    I am a former scout mom. We never participated in the popcorn sales. You get very little popcorn for a lot of money. If the scouts don't sell all the popcorn, it comes out of the Pack's general fund, not the scouts pockets. It sounds like the Pack may have over ordered. There are better fund raisers than this. The fund raising activities are arranged by the adult leaders. The proceeds go to the scout activities. The parents can some up with the fund raising activates and submit them to the packs committee.

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    That just sounds odd to me. Have you checked with the BSA (Boy Scouts of America) headquarters?

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    Unless things have changed since I was involved in scout fundraising (as den leader & cubmaster for boy scouts and troop leader and cookie chairman for girl scouts), that is NOT how it is SUPPOSED to be done.

    We had kids who sold enough to go to camp free (a local council incentive) and ones that sold one or two bags of popcorn or boxes of cookies. No one was 'charged' if they didn't sell a certain quota amount.

    We certainly had goals that we encouraged them to try for, and incentives if they reached those goals, but which level they attained was an individual or family matter, not a scout requirement.

    I would find out who the local cubmaster is and take it up with him/her and if necessary take the matter to the area scout council office, which may be in a nearby city as usually a council includes several counties. This should not be handled this way.

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    I would not spend my own money...

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    This is similar to what happened in the troop my DGS is in. We bought high priced popcorn to help him out, but I think the whole idea is ridiculous!

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    what?? call that school or where ever. don't let that happen. Firemen in Tennessee just let a man's house burn because he didn't pay $75 fee for being out of City limits.
    extorsion (sp) is dead, hopefully! go to parents next and then newspapers if necessary.

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    We had someone come to our door and they were asking for $40.00 for something - I thought my husband said popcorn.
    I hate these fund raisers, too. My sister had her step-grandson to ask her to buy a knive(s). It would have ended up costing her over $1,000 if she had bought the entire set. When you have ten kids selling school stuff to come to your door, it can cost a fortune if you buy from each one. I feel sorry for the kids - especially when I have to say no.

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    I too hate fundraisers for school kids. Right now I have two little ones in the same school, and the book they are selling from is expensive. Then the incentives....sell this many or that much and you get to go in a limo for pizza. I hate that part too!! Some parents will go all out and buy, but not all parents can do that, so those little ones get leftout, and that just isn't fair. This time they told the kids not to go door to door, just have parents take the book to work or call on the phone to family and friends. Where these kids live, probably 3/4 of the parents work at the same place. My favorite fund raiser is when they sell candy bars for a $1.00. You get the bar right then, and I think most people will buy those. But I wish they would stop it entirely, just ask the parents for a donation, it is easier for everyone.

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    This is the first year I have seen them selling popcorn I am sorry I am no help I was girlscouts and we did not have a monetary so not sure if htat helps.

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    Contact you local council. You'll see more immediate results. BSA headquarters is for national concerns. Your local council is for every day concerns. If you don't know where they are look in your local phone book. Try the government section,or the services section.

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    hello there i am a den leader and you do not have to sell popcorn if you do not want to last year my son sold just 100.00 and that was just fine..i would call the main office in you area and talk to them about this ...its great way to raise money but this is not how you do it you can pm me if you like and i will help anyway i can

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    At Scouts Canada we also have popcorn sales. Usually my garage is headquarters when it all comes in... and the excess inventory used to stay there too!!!

    We just had a popcorn door to door funraiser and I refused to participate in it. Stephen's dad sells about $200+ just at his office, so we don't need to go door to door.

    I know of BSA group from the Finger Lakes area in NY that does not charge fees, BUT fundraises heavily instead. Maybe that's what this group does, and then if they get enough money from the popcorn they don't have to do anymore fundraising!

    I would also want to see the terms of the popcorn sales (that they must raise $325.00 ea. or it comes out of the parents pockets)... in writing!!! Cause it sounds weird to me!

    As they others have said. Contact council to see what they say.

    Good Luck!!!

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    When my kids were in school, they never participated in the fundraisers. My sister said the break room at her work is filled with those catalogs, no one buys anything.

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    I think these types of things are explotive of kids and should be illegal. Even though I buy GS cookies because I like the cookies, the concept has become evil. Way too much pressure to sell. Too easy to run into a pervert selling candy or whatever because some middleman is making a fortune.

    Have the kid DO something and get paid. Being in business we get literally hundreds of solicitations for these types of things or "ads" in overpriced programs. I dont do any of them anymore. If you need money, come up with a local program like a spaghetti dinner or car wash.

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    My son is in boy scouts and he is selling popcorn. There is no minimum that he has to sell in his troop. Several of the boys won't participate at all but it is their choice.

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    I dont like these types of fund raising either. I wish they could do rummage sales, bake sales, things like that. I can never afford the expensive wrapping paper, candy, popcorn, ect!

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    This must be county-wide because I saw scouts outside our local grocery last weekend selling popcorn. I tried to sneak around them because I did not want to be solicited. We live in the Seattle area.

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    Been there. I gave popcorn as presents with gift certificates to rent movies. I felt it was a win-win situation. This was totally voluntary on my part though and was not under pressure to buy any.

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    I was a scout leader for years, This didn't happen during the years I was active.Get to the bottom of this, and please let us know what you find out.
    Rae

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