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Old 10-06-2010, 08:13 AM
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hi i have a grandson in the bears scotwho is selling popcorn and the dean leader says they have to sell 325.00 in pop cornor it comes out of there pocket is there any den leaders out there and can they do this i thought these thing were to teach our kids resopibelt not how to be monny hungery

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Old 10-06-2010, 08:15 AM
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That doesn't sound right to me either... Maybe call the local boy scout organization and ask them?
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I really dislike this form of fundraising. When I did PTA, we tried to cut out the middleman profits so it all went to the school and students. I wish I could offer you some advice. There is no way they can charge you for this if you haven't accepted the merchandise.
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:16 AM
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I have to say that is just wrong in many ways. Maybe you need to contact the main head quarters and ask about this.
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I hate the way Scouts , schools, and other activities do that! It takes the enjoyment out of it for the kids, puts preasure on them and the parents, and causes a reduction in these activities, because of that very reason. Very sad! Who can afford to put out that kind of cash!
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:28 AM
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This is not something they can require. My DD is a den leader and she is going to try to get some info for you. She says the boys don't even have to sell anything if they don't want to. She is a den leader for her boys troupe and for her DDs girl scout troupe.
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:40 AM
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I am a former scout mom. We never participated in the popcorn sales. You get very little popcorn for a lot of money. If the scouts don't sell all the popcorn, it comes out of the Pack's general fund, not the scouts pockets. It sounds like the Pack may have over ordered. There are better fund raisers than this. The fund raising activities are arranged by the adult leaders. The proceeds go to the scout activities. The parents can some up with the fund raising activates and submit them to the packs committee.
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That just sounds odd to me. Have you checked with the BSA (Boy Scouts of America) headquarters?
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:47 AM
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Unless things have changed since I was involved in scout fundraising (as den leader & cubmaster for boy scouts and troop leader and cookie chairman for girl scouts), that is NOT how it is SUPPOSED to be done.

We had kids who sold enough to go to camp free (a local council incentive) and ones that sold one or two bags of popcorn or boxes of cookies. No one was 'charged' if they didn't sell a certain quota amount.

We certainly had goals that we encouraged them to try for, and incentives if they reached those goals, but which level they attained was an individual or family matter, not a scout requirement.

I would find out who the local cubmaster is and take it up with him/her and if necessary take the matter to the area scout council office, which may be in a nearby city as usually a council includes several counties. This should not be handled this way.
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Old 10-06-2010, 09:19 AM
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I would not spend my own money...
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