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12-12-2011, 11:22 PM
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[QUOTE=Iraxy;4776741]I beg to differ, schools are trying to teach kids every day.
Being politically correct is only showing courtesy to all regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, or religious affiliation.
What was meant by "politically correct" is that it seems like more and more emphasis is being placed on race, gender, sexual orientation and religious affiliation rather than teaching the basics of reading, speaking well, writing well and knowing math and science. Everyday common courtesy, decency, morals and manners is not the definition of "politically correct". If we, as parents and teachers, treat EACH child the same w/o making a special class/subject to talk about these designations, then the children will accept each other without question. Children from an early age are very accepting. When they see/hear adults treating some as different or giving special consideration because of these designations, then they learn "political correctness".
As parents to sons with children of their own, and sisters with children, we were and are active in the education of our children and we see how the public school system has changed, from the textbooks they use to the climate in which the teachers have to work. Having neighbors who are teachers (one is a principal), we have talked about what the public schools in our area (metropolitan but not inner city) HAVE to teach to meet federal standards. My niece is finishing her last year in college and will begin her student teaching next fall and we have discussed the differences as to what is being taught.
I believe that teaching our children is a parent/teacher partnership. I also see the disrespect shown by even young children to their teachers and other adults around them. This stems from the home environment mostly and if emphasis is placed anywhere, maybe it should be on more parent participation. I have seen great teachers leave the system and I have seen bad teachers that can't be fired. I have graded 9th grade papers where the kids cannot spell simple words, make complete sentences or construct a story line. My friend who was teaching at that time said it was sad because she had to spend time teaching these 9th graders how to do 6th grade work. And this occurred in a Level 5 school system (the best federal rating).
I also believe that good teachers should be among the highest paid professionals. The athletes we see making these "stupid" statements were not taught correctly, if at all, and probably more attention was paid to their athletic abilities than to their grades. Then we see the younger children holding them up as role models. Once again, the responsibility falls on the parents or a mentor to teach the difference in being well educated versus just playing a sport...or being an actor or singer or any of the other highly paid popular icons in our society. IMHO, our teachers need to teach the basics of education and not have the added burden of teaching PC social issues during the hours they have available to spend with our children.
Being politically correct is only showing courtesy to all regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, or religious affiliation.
What was meant by "politically correct" is that it seems like more and more emphasis is being placed on race, gender, sexual orientation and religious affiliation rather than teaching the basics of reading, speaking well, writing well and knowing math and science. Everyday common courtesy, decency, morals and manners is not the definition of "politically correct". If we, as parents and teachers, treat EACH child the same w/o making a special class/subject to talk about these designations, then the children will accept each other without question. Children from an early age are very accepting. When they see/hear adults treating some as different or giving special consideration because of these designations, then they learn "political correctness".
As parents to sons with children of their own, and sisters with children, we were and are active in the education of our children and we see how the public school system has changed, from the textbooks they use to the climate in which the teachers have to work. Having neighbors who are teachers (one is a principal), we have talked about what the public schools in our area (metropolitan but not inner city) HAVE to teach to meet federal standards. My niece is finishing her last year in college and will begin her student teaching next fall and we have discussed the differences as to what is being taught.
I believe that teaching our children is a parent/teacher partnership. I also see the disrespect shown by even young children to their teachers and other adults around them. This stems from the home environment mostly and if emphasis is placed anywhere, maybe it should be on more parent participation. I have seen great teachers leave the system and I have seen bad teachers that can't be fired. I have graded 9th grade papers where the kids cannot spell simple words, make complete sentences or construct a story line. My friend who was teaching at that time said it was sad because she had to spend time teaching these 9th graders how to do 6th grade work. And this occurred in a Level 5 school system (the best federal rating).
I also believe that good teachers should be among the highest paid professionals. The athletes we see making these "stupid" statements were not taught correctly, if at all, and probably more attention was paid to their athletic abilities than to their grades. Then we see the younger children holding them up as role models. Once again, the responsibility falls on the parents or a mentor to teach the difference in being well educated versus just playing a sport...or being an actor or singer or any of the other highly paid popular icons in our society. IMHO, our teachers need to teach the basics of education and not have the added burden of teaching PC social issues during the hours they have available to spend with our children.
12-13-2011, 04:16 AM
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I've maintained this for years. Some Athletes should not be allowed to open their mouths on National Television.
Its a rare person who is well educated AND a gifted Athelete. It saddens me when I hear intelligent and educated parents talking about their child's future in terms of Sports Scholarships. Why do we have educated young people on our Olympic teams but the inarticulate (primarily young men) seem to dominate the big money sports.
MaryKatherine
Its a rare person who is well educated AND a gifted Athelete. It saddens me when I hear intelligent and educated parents talking about their child's future in terms of Sports Scholarships. Why do we have educated young people on our Olympic teams but the inarticulate (primarily young men) seem to dominate the big money sports.
MaryKatherine
12-13-2011, 10:33 AM
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It's sad that they make so much money, athletes and coaches alike. It's amazing that some of them actually when to college (at least for a little while). I know the 49ers had a lot of professionals on their team (lawyers, MDs) , etc but more "athletes seem to go to "college" for the chance to play pro and money, than education.
12-13-2011, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Iraxy
I beg to differ, schools are trying to teach kids every day.
Being politically correct is only showing courtesy to all regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, or religious affiliation.
Here in my town you have people angry and near violent when their children are tested and come up short regardless of the reason for the shortcoming. Then, blame it on someone or something else. The "dittohead" mentality is alive and well in east Texas.
If you want a quality education for your child, get them one. Teach them to be responsible and to listen to the teacher instead of mouthing off. Send them to school fed and in proper attire for learning. Forgo the fancy clothes and expensive sneakers. Send them to school clean. Send them to school on time.
Teach them to respect their teachers.
Volunteer at your local school. Be a physical presence. Attend school board meetings.
Most of all, show respect for the teachers yourself. To say that schools are too busy being politically correct to teach is disrespectful. But mostly, totally untrue. After all, if you can read this, thank a teacher.
As someone who has worked with and for the school system in Texas for over 40 years, I have seen and heard a lot. Believe me when I tell you that most teachers want to teach your children. Most of the time the person who is the biggest impediment in their child's education is the parent.
Now that is something that is sad but true.
Forgive my rant, but I think that we mix up athletes with "normal people" when that is like apples and oranges. Most of the professional athletes went to school for training for athletics from early on. By eighth grade these kids have basically dropped out of school and gone into "athletic training education." Their parents are okay with it because what else do you do with a kid as big as a refrigerator and thick as a plank?
It is a sad thing that an athlete makes more than a doctor, nurse, teacher, scientist, astronaut. That their opinions are valued more than those professionals. But we, the masses, are the ones that perpetrate the insanity. So we are to blame.
Good night.
Being politically correct is only showing courtesy to all regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, or religious affiliation.
Here in my town you have people angry and near violent when their children are tested and come up short regardless of the reason for the shortcoming. Then, blame it on someone or something else. The "dittohead" mentality is alive and well in east Texas.
If you want a quality education for your child, get them one. Teach them to be responsible and to listen to the teacher instead of mouthing off. Send them to school fed and in proper attire for learning. Forgo the fancy clothes and expensive sneakers. Send them to school clean. Send them to school on time.
Teach them to respect their teachers.
Volunteer at your local school. Be a physical presence. Attend school board meetings.
Most of all, show respect for the teachers yourself. To say that schools are too busy being politically correct to teach is disrespectful. But mostly, totally untrue. After all, if you can read this, thank a teacher.
As someone who has worked with and for the school system in Texas for over 40 years, I have seen and heard a lot. Believe me when I tell you that most teachers want to teach your children. Most of the time the person who is the biggest impediment in their child's education is the parent.
Now that is something that is sad but true.
Forgive my rant, but I think that we mix up athletes with "normal people" when that is like apples and oranges. Most of the professional athletes went to school for training for athletics from early on. By eighth grade these kids have basically dropped out of school and gone into "athletic training education." Their parents are okay with it because what else do you do with a kid as big as a refrigerator and thick as a plank?
It is a sad thing that an athlete makes more than a doctor, nurse, teacher, scientist, astronaut. That their opinions are valued more than those professionals. But we, the masses, are the ones that perpetrate the insanity. So we are to blame.
Good night.
12-13-2011, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Iraxy
I beg to differ, schools are trying to teach kids every day.
Being politically correct is only showing courtesy to all regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, or religious affiliation.
Here in my town you have people angry and near violent when their children are tested and come up short regardless of the reason for the shortcoming. Then, blame it on someone or something else. The "dittohead" mentality is alive and well in east Texas.
If you want a quality education for your child, get them one. Teach them to be responsible and to listen to the teacher instead of mouthing off. Send them to school fed and in proper attire for learning. Forgo the fancy clothes and expensive sneakers. Send them to school clean. Send them to school on time.
Teach them to respect their teachers.
Volunteer at your local school. Be a physical presence. Attend school board meetings.
Most of all, show respect for the teachers yourself. To say that schools are too busy being politically correct to teach is disrespectful. But mostly, totally untrue. After all, if you can read this, thank a teacher.
As someone who has worked with and for the school system in Texas for over 40 years, I have seen and heard a lot. Believe me when I tell you that most teachers want to teach your children. Most of the time the person who is the biggest impediment in their child's education is the parent.
Now that is something that is sad but true.
Forgive my rant, but I think that we mix up athletes with "normal people" when that is like apples and oranges. Most of the professional athletes went to school for training for athletics from early on. By eighth grade these kids have basically dropped out of school and gone into "athletic training education." Their parents are okay with it because what else do you do with a kid as big as a refrigerator and thick as a plank?
It is a sad thing that an athlete makes more than a doctor, nurse, teacher, scientist, astronaut. That their opinions are valued more than those professionals. But we, the masses, are the ones that perpetrate the insanity. So we are to blame.
Good night.
Being politically correct is only showing courtesy to all regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, or religious affiliation.
Here in my town you have people angry and near violent when their children are tested and come up short regardless of the reason for the shortcoming. Then, blame it on someone or something else. The "dittohead" mentality is alive and well in east Texas.
If you want a quality education for your child, get them one. Teach them to be responsible and to listen to the teacher instead of mouthing off. Send them to school fed and in proper attire for learning. Forgo the fancy clothes and expensive sneakers. Send them to school clean. Send them to school on time.
Teach them to respect their teachers.
Volunteer at your local school. Be a physical presence. Attend school board meetings.
Most of all, show respect for the teachers yourself. To say that schools are too busy being politically correct to teach is disrespectful. But mostly, totally untrue. After all, if you can read this, thank a teacher.
As someone who has worked with and for the school system in Texas for over 40 years, I have seen and heard a lot. Believe me when I tell you that most teachers want to teach your children. Most of the time the person who is the biggest impediment in their child's education is the parent.
Now that is something that is sad but true.
Forgive my rant, but I think that we mix up athletes with "normal people" when that is like apples and oranges. Most of the professional athletes went to school for training for athletics from early on. By eighth grade these kids have basically dropped out of school and gone into "athletic training education." Their parents are okay with it because what else do you do with a kid as big as a refrigerator and thick as a plank?
It is a sad thing that an athlete makes more than a doctor, nurse, teacher, scientist, astronaut. That their opinions are valued more than those professionals. But we, the masses, are the ones that perpetrate the insanity. So we are to blame.
Good night.
12-13-2011, 09:32 PM
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I agree with Iraxy except for the politically correct situation. I do believe in respect for one another and tolerance for others views. But I think PC has gone to far the other way. We had to take prayer out of our schools because a few challenged it, that is minority rule, but it is PC. In a school in Sugarland TX, they have a room for Muslims to pray but Christians cannot have their prayer in school. I am not against Muslims, I think we should have all prayer in school. I think the different religions could take turns and if you are agnostic or athiest, don't listen.
12-14-2011, 05:46 AM
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Amen, Iraxy!
Yes, we do need to be "politically correct" because who wants to put up with bullies, ignorance, racism, sexism, etc.? And yes, reading', writ in', 'rithmatic are VERY important. But a lot needs to come from parents and it's just not happening. Then teachers are blamed for everything while the parents make up excuses for their children. These "children" do drop out because all they can think is athletics then they become the class clown to cover up for their own short-comings in their education, disrupting the education of every student in class.
Sorry too for the rant: this started out to be a funny post.
Yes, we do need to be "politically correct" because who wants to put up with bullies, ignorance, racism, sexism, etc.? And yes, reading', writ in', 'rithmatic are VERY important. But a lot needs to come from parents and it's just not happening. Then teachers are blamed for everything while the parents make up excuses for their children. These "children" do drop out because all they can think is athletics then they become the class clown to cover up for their own short-comings in their education, disrupting the education of every student in class.
Sorry too for the rant: this started out to be a funny post.
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