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    Quote Originally Posted by pocoellie
    clem55-there's nothing you can do. Your husband has to decide to do it for himself. I have a son that's diabetic, he doesn't watch what he eats, doesn't exercise, nothing. We've told him numerous times that diabetes isn't a disease to mess around with, but it obviously hasn't sunk in yet.

    But, I would seriously consider changing doctors if this one doesn't even have your husband check his sugar, that's insane.
    I agree. Changing doctors might be a good idea. But, the "work" has to start with the patient.

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    To further complicate the matter, I take coumadin for blood clots, which means, No salads or "green things". I have chronic kidney disease, so I am limited to 4 ounces of protein A DAY.

    That only leaves carbs. My daily diet is:
    2 sugar free yogurts for breakfast
    1 sugar free diet supplement drink for lunch (glucerna)
    1 bag of 150 cal popcorn for snack (for fiber)
    supper is what my dh eats, with no greens, and 3-4 ounces cooked protein.
    1 bag of 150 cal popcorn for bedtime snack
    I do not vary from this diet!!!

    It is too late now to control my diabetes by diet, I have so much infection in my body my blood sugars go up and down.

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    It is an awful disease. My hubby has it and has lost so much weight, won't go to the doctor because some "evangelist" convinced him that if he goes to a doctor for any ailment he doesn't have faith in God to heal him. It is so very frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplemem
    To further complicate the matter, I take coumadin for blood clots, which means, No salads or "green things". I have chronic kidney disease, so I am limited to 4 ounces of protein A DAY.

    That only leaves carbs. My daily diet is:
    2 sugar free yogurts for breakfast
    1 sugar free diet supplement drink for lunch (glucerna)
    1 bag of 150 cal popcorn for snack (for fiber)
    supper is what my dh eats, with no greens, and 3-4 ounces cooked protein.
    1 bag of 150 cal popcorn for bedtime snack
    I do not vary from this diet!!!

    It is too late now to control my diabetes by diet, I have so much infection in my body my blood sugars go up and down.
    Ohhh my gosh. Bless your heart. Your diet is unreal, but a must-do. Am sooo sorry. Will remember this!

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    Well they are finding now a lot of it is genetic. My Dad has type II so the doc said I really could not help getting it. I wonder sometimes with all the gene research and telling people what they 'may' get if it is not a bit of a downer on people's lives. I am sure it helps however I for one would find it rather limiting to know you are bound to get some disease in life. My prob is that the earlier kidney disease makes me more prone now I have the type II to kidney failure from diabetes. Western diet also makes us more prone to disease, but then so many food stuffs are so full of crap now, it is hard to avoid till it is too late.

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    My FIL has Type I, and thinks that as long as he has pills he can eat and drink whatever he wants. Problem is, he's not regular on taking the pills (or checking blood sugar). He gets to where he has trouble functioning, seeing clearly, weak, etc., and then has to be prodded to take his medicine. He feels fine when he does, and crappy when he doesn't. He's a grown a-- man, why can't he learn??? It's frustrating for the rest of the family, but you can't make him take care of himself. If he feels like drinking a beer, he'll drink a beer. He has now moved across the US from us, but near a sister and her family. Hopefully they'll now watch over him and protect him from himself.

    DH has a maternal and paternal history of diabetes, but tries to take care of himself so he won't end up getting it. He was told he has a 50-50 chance of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wings
    Well they are finding now a lot of it is genetic. My Dad has type II so the doc said I really could not help getting it. I wonder sometimes with all the gene research and telling people what they 'may' get if it is not a bit of a downer on people's lives. I am sure it helps however I for one would find it rather limiting to know you are bound to get some disease in life. My prob is that the earlier kidney disease makes me more prone now I have the type II to kidney failure from diabetes. Western diet also makes us more prone to disease, but then so many food stuffs are so full of crap now, it is hard to avoid till it is too late.
    I agree. My Dad is type II and so was his Dad. Knowing this and being realistic, am not sure I would have done much any differently. (Hummmm, is that shame on me???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplemem
    To further complicate the matter, I take coumadin for blood clots, which means, No salads or "green things". I have chronic kidney disease, so I am limited to 4 ounces of protein A DAY.

    That only leaves carbs. My daily diet is:
    2 sugar free yogurts for breakfast
    1 sugar free diet supplement drink for lunch (glucerna)
    1 bag of 150 cal popcorn for snack (for fiber)
    supper is what my dh eats, with no greens, and 3-4 ounces cooked protein.
    1 bag of 150 cal popcorn for bedtime snack
    I do not vary from this diet!!!

    It is too late now to control my diabetes by diet, I have so much infection in my body my blood sugars go up and down.
    You poor baby. I am so sorry to hear your story and my heart goes out to you. I think also sharing your story helps us to see we should behave better when we are diagnosed, I fess up, I cheat but your story has really frightened me. Hugs from Down Under. xxxx

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    Wings,
    I appreciate the sympathy but I did a lot of this to myself. Diabetes is a progressive, chronic disease. I saw it as "a little sugar issue". Dr. Guthrie, past president of American Diabetes Assoc., told me at a workshop, "the sad thing is that the damage you are living today was done 10 - 15 years ago, maybe even before you were diagnosed."

    BTW-anytime you have a blood sugar reading of over 200 you are having PERMANENT NERVE DAMAGE.

    When I was first diagnosed I was told to keep my blood sugars under 200, that diabetes was a blood sugar of over 150.
    Now, I am told to keep my numbers under 100. Things have really changed in diabetes care. If your numbers are over 100, you are risking life changing complications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplemem
    Wings,
    I appreciate the sympathy but I did a lot of this to myself. Diabetes is a progressive, chronic disease. I saw it as "a little sugar issue". Dr. Guthrie, past president of American Diabetes Assoc., told me at a workshop, "the sad thing is that the damage you are living today was done 10 - 15 years ago, maybe even before you were diagnosed."

    BTW-anytime you have a blood sugar reading of over 200 you are having PERMANENT NERVE DAMAGE.

    When I was first diagnosed I was told to keep my blood sugars under 200, that diabetes was a blood sugar of over 150.
    Now, I am told to keep my numbers under 100. Things have really changed in diabetes care. If your numbers are over 100, you are risking life changing complications.
    Purplemem - I am sorry but the figures you quote are different to ours - we have 3.5 as normal, I am 6.4 on my six monthly test just done last week - so how does that equate to your figures - if normal is 3.5 here then does it equate to 150 over there? I would love to know how to solve the mystery of equating the readings.

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    I'm not sure. The 150bg over here was "normal" in 1977. Now "normal" is under 100 bg. I don't know how to calculate this by your terms.

    Wings,
    Are you speaking of the hemoglobin a1c? Here, we look for under 6.0 for that reading. I am referring (above) to daily blood glucose readings.

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    We are metric over here. We used to be miles now we are kilometres. I will ring my diabetes office in Brisbane on Monday and look into it and let you know. I know they were changing the top line before it was dangerous from 7.5 back to 5.5 I think it was, which drifts me over. I held under 6 for five years and have now started to drift although doc said he was very happy with it the other day. How long have you had this disease? I did a good course on eating with local hospital then was sent to a private dietician who had just left university to bring the two diseases together in a diet and she was useless, left me totally confused! Grrrrr. BP medications are used for the kidney disease but no medication yet for the diabetes, for which I am grateful. I had heard they weren't nice and reading your orignal post sounded like they were pretty bad indeed.

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    I have a chart that helps with the numbers
    Blood Sugar 135 = Alc 6%
    170 = 7%
    205 = 8%
    240 = 9%
    275 = 10%
    310 = 11%
    345 = 12%

    My husband is taking shots and I am pre. If you are diagnosed, and pill are prescribed, IT DOES NOT MEAN IT TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING AND YOU CAN EAT ANTTHING YOU WANT!!! See a nutritionist to find out how to eat differently. Food does not define who we are-I'm a quilter, not an eater :)-some can enjoy rich foods and some of us need to find ways to enjoy the foods we can eat. I am 18 lbs into loosing 75lbs-the weight being off will better my chances of never being on medication and I will be healther to boot. I have not eaten sugar since I was diagnosed in May. For me, I choose to pass on candies, pastries, sugar snacks, desserts, chips and the potatoes and other high glycemic foods, and have protein supplements and plenty of chicken and lean meats. I pass on a lot of the leafy green veg. because of IBS-(lucky me!). And I use Splenda if I feel like I need something extra, like the sugar free no bake cookies. But they are not calorie free-a little dab will do ya! A better way to eat is out there and it is HARD, but I can do it. My goal is to NEVER be on medication for this and quilt, quilt, QUILT!

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    Plainjane-You have exactly the right attitude. I am a quilter, not an eater. :D Food is NOT my friend! I have been diabetic for 35 years, on insulin for 18 years. Thanks for the pep talk. It helps to know other people are fighting, also.

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    I was diagnosed three weeks after death of my husband. Had been fine the month before. I do fine and take no pills but eat only whole grains, no pop - diet or regular- fresh or frozen veggies with no sauce, just butter spray occasionally, small amount of protein, either one egg or small piece of chicken or fish, and organic peanut butter on one piece of multigrain bread at bedtime. Six small meals a day. So far I am under 6 on Alc (three month test) and under 100 in am on finger stick. If I travel try to comply but immediately get out of wack. Doctor says lack of sleep and stress can also cause diabetes.You have to be careful what you eat. One thing you can have is sweet potato, no butter or sugar though.Please check your peanut butter carefully, most of them have added fats, sugars and salt. The one I get comes from Canada and is only organic peanuts. I have been a kidney patient my whole life as have kidney birth defect so have to keep the proteins down also.

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    i have been nursing diabetic patients for 25 years i managed to not need medication untill i was 40+ none of the oral meds were satisfactory for me now on insulin for 15 years+ find i have more controll--i do not take any artificial sweeteners --they are not proven safe--i also nurse cancer patiants --i know which disease i prefer not that we get a choice--fabric is my candy

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