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    Old 08-20-2013, 05:55 AM
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    I just heard on a youtube video that ball point / embroidery needles were the best for fmq and not sharpz microtex etc. because they tend to tear and rip fibers while fmq-ing. And that the threads and quilt would last longer with the use of the ball point needles, what do you all think is this true Im curious if it does in fact make a difference?
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    Old 08-20-2013, 06:13 AM
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    There are no hard and fast rule ............ there are so many variables of fabrics, battings, threads, and even the machine, to say this is the one!

    This is why we do practice pieces, with the variables according to the specific project.

    I have used embroidery needles, also top stitch needles ..... and yet, both Universals and Quilting needles have worked fine at times. Others, not!
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    I've never heard this recommendation for quilting on cotton fabric, only on T-shirt quilts. Can you give a link to the youtube video?
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    I use a Topstitch needle, for my FMQ.

    I agree with QuiltE ~ "There are no hard and fast rule ............ there are so many variables of fabrics, battings, threads, and even the machine, to say this is the one!"
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    Originally Posted by grammy Dwynn
    I use a Topstitch needle, for my FMQ.

    I agree with QuiltE ~ "There are no hard and fast rule ............ there are so many variables of fabrics, battings, threads, and even the machine, to say this is the one!"
    **tossing in the S that I obviously missed**

    And perhaps should ad "the quilter" as another of those infamous variables!



    Dunster ... ITA ... aren't microtex and ballpoints are not normally mentioned around traditional quilting fabrics.
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    Old 08-20-2013, 06:46 AM
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    Even in emb I only use ballpoint for knit type fabric. I normally use either topstitch, sharps or emb, or universal needles in embroidery; this depends on what I'm making. Sometimes you need the sharp tip to go thru the fabric better and it causes less damage. Just like doing FSL on emb, it is all done on stabilizer so you want a sharp to minimize the tearing affects on the stabilizer. I am slowly switching my needles to Inspira though. The eye of the needle is flat where the thread goes against it and therefore it has a less tendancy to shred the thread as most needles with the oval eyes. I'm finding alot of good results from these needles. Like most have said, there is no hard and fast rule to anything and with all of the different types of machines and thread and fabric you can't or shouldn't lock yourself into hard and fast rules on anything.
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    Originally Posted by bobbiesboutique
    I just heard on a youtube video that ball point / embroidery needles were the best for fmq and not sharpz microtex etc. because they tend to tear and rip fibers while fmq-ing. And that the threads and quilt would last longer with the use of the ball point needles, what do you all think is this true Im curious if it does in fact make a difference?
    Odd, that's the exact opposite of what I've heard for years and years. Universal needles, because of the rounded point are not meant for woven cottons, they're meant for knits. When used on cotton, they push the fabric down and tear threads as they force their way through it. Microtex (aka sharps) and other pointed needles slide neatly between the threads of the weave, they do not cut the threads at all. Check the Schmetz needle and Superior thread websites for more information on needle use.
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    Im not sure how to share the link but the persons name is Cristy Fincher titled Free Motion Quilting-Quilt Halo she says her mother is "master quilter Sharon Schambers "who invented the quilt halo but thats what I was watching on youtube and I thought I would ask you gals on here because you always give such great advice and are so kind. I had never heard of this and just thought Id ask thank you for your responses and I do know there are no hard and fast rules I just want to do the best I can and love to learn all I can about Quilting.
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    ballpoints are for knits so don't see why they would be recommended for quilting. I have heard of universals or topstitching but not ballpoint
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    ball point needles are good for t-shirt quilts or other *knit fabric* quilts- it is an 'old wives tale' that sharp needles cut the fabric. a ball point needle will be more difficult to sew with and make larger holes on regular cotton fabrics than a good new sharp needle. if working with knits though- ball point is the way to go. for information on needles & threads visit the 'Superior Threads' web site- they have free charts you can print off that will tell you about all the different needles-sizes/types and what to use which one for- also what needle to use with what thread- and what technique for the different threads/needles- they explain the different types/weights of threads, types/sizes of needles- a good resource to answer many questions concerning needles & threads

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