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Old 02-10-2012, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dublb View Post
I use Sullivan's Quilt Basting Spray. It is temporary & doesn't gum up my needle at all. I love it! I also use school glue for small things. News paper protects from over-spray. I use this method for whole quilts. http://www.thequiltshow.com/os/blog.php/blog_id/2566
This quilt show video is good, but there are a few mistakes with this method. She states that she uses 505 basting spray. But it's important to note that she is using 505 incorrectly.

1. She holds the can only 3-4 inches from the fabric surface. (The directions on the can state you should hold the can 10-12 inches from the fabric surface.

2. She states "you WILL get a glob on your needle", in fact she shows you what the glob looks like in the video. The can states you will NOT get a glob on your needle. The reason she gets globs is because she is holding the can so close to the fabric. When you hold the can this close, of course you get a thick, concentrated amount in a small area. This is why she gets globs on her needle. In fact, if you watch in the video, you can see the adhesive turn white on top of the fabric due to how thick she's gunking it on there.

3. She says the sticky "will last up to 5 years". But the can states it is TEMPORARY. The reason she gets 4 to 5 years worth of sticky is because she's spraying a thick, concentrated amount on her fabric. When you spray a ton of adhesive on the fabric it WILL be permanent, not temporary.

I wish they'd do a better job explaining this method. I bet the spray manufactureres grit their teeth if they've seen this video, LOL. My take on it is this: If you want the sticky to last forever, spray the adhesive 3 or 4 inches from the fabric. If you want the spray to be temporary follow the directions on the can.

I've used 505 for the last 12 years, and have used KK2000 and KK100. For me personally, I spray 8-10 inches away from the fabric.
I find the 505 washes out of the fabric when I'm done. But DO NOT under any circumstances wash fabric that has KK2000 or KK100 on it until it has dissipated. It WILL become permanent, trust me.
505 will stay around for roughly 2 months, whereas KK2000 and KK100 only lasts a few days.

I use 505 for quilting and KK2000 and KK100 for machine embroidery.

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Old 02-10-2012, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BellaBoo View Post
DH says the 505 seems like one of the adhesives they use at his job. Different name but same company, sold for industrial use. If so he can order it through the company's storeroom much cheaper then retail and he says all Tool and Die warehouses should have it, maybe even Harbor Freight stores. He is bringing me a used can so I can compare.
Be very careful to ensure that it is a "temporary adhesive" and that it can be used for fabrics. 3M makes quite a few different adhesive sprays.
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It is the best invention since the rotary cutter!
I second that! LOVE LOVE LOVE it!
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Old 02-10-2012, 07:42 PM
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I use basting spray and have never had a problem with the needle gumming up. Basting spray washes out of the fabric when you wash the quilt, and seems to wash off of hard flat surfaces easily.

I don't recommend spraying around your sewing machine. The vapor may penetrate the insides of the machine and gum that up.

I sweep the garage floor, lay out my batting, spray one side, turn it over and spray the other side. It is all done in the garage with the garage door open - has to be a warm, wind-free day. I am supersensitive to odors and stuff that can get into my sinuses, and this minimizes that problem.

I also spray the backs of my cutting rulers with basting spray. At first, it is difficult to reposition fabric under the rulers - a small pain in the butt, but much better than the ruler slipping and fabric getting cut wrong. After a few uses, the basting spray starts to rub off and repositioning fabric is easier, plus the accuracy of my cuts is much improved.
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Old 02-11-2012, 06:58 AM
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I use 505 spray basting and find that I get a smoother quilt then then when I pin. It is easier and quicker and less heavy than pinning. Cost? I bought a case of 12 large cans from an online site (can not remenber which ) for about $150 for 12 large cans which makes it way cheaper than buying it from Connecting thread. (shipping was free). Connecting thread sell small can of 505 so perhaps you could buy one and try it yourself. Do a search for more info.

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Old 02-11-2012, 07:04 AM
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[ Originally Posted by BellaBoo
DH says the 505 seems like one of the adhesives they use at his job. Different name but same company, sold for industrial use. If so he can order it through the company's storeroom much cheaper then retail and he says all Tool and Die warehouses should have it, maybe even Harbor Freight stores. He is bringing me a used can so I can compare.

I sure would BEWARE of using anything that say "industrial" on my precious quilt.
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I signed up for a machine quilting class on Craftsy and the instructor (Ann L. Peterson) demonstrates how she spray bastes. She uses either Sullivan's or the 505 spray and emphasized two things:

1. Spray very very lightly. She says that she never gets gummy needles.

2. Spray the wrong side of the quilt top and the wrong side of the backing rather than spraying the batting. Spraying the batting soaks up too much of the spray which can lead to the gumminess and also wastes spray.

In the video she sprays outside on her patio table (covered with a clean dropcloth) and she does spray VERY lightly. Then, back inside, she straightens out the sprayed top and backing and then layers it with the batting. She demonstrates how re-positionable it is.

One step she says is important is to press the sandwich after layering it....says this really sets the glue. She pressed the backing first then only minimally pressed the top. In her quilting demonstrations she really handles that sandwich and it stays together quite well.

As for the Craftsy class...I'm enjoying it and learning lots. It's much longer (hours) than I anticipated and she is a good instructor.

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its revolutionized the way I quilt. I love it.
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Originally Posted by BellaBoo View Post
DH says the 505 seems like one of the adhesives they use at his job. Different name but same company, sold for industrial use. If so he can order it through the company's storeroom much cheaper then retail and he says all Tool and Die warehouses should have it, maybe even Harbor Freight stores. He is bringing me a used can so I can compare.
I would be really interested in knowing if the strength is the same -- don't need to spend the Big Bucks where it's not needed!
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Originally Posted by BellaBoo View Post
DH says the 505 seems like one of the adhesives they use at his job. Different name but same company, sold for industrial use. If so he can order it through the company's storeroom much cheaper then retail and he says all Tool and Die warehouses should have it, maybe even Harbor Freight stores. He is bringing me a used can so I can compare.
Make sure they are a temporary adhesive! If it is temporary it will be great!
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