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Thread: Bias Against Hand-Quilters?

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    Krazy quilter I read this thread earlier, and I couldn't believe how rude that quilt store owner was to you. Before I turned to machine earlier this year all my projects where hand sewn, but now that you mention the lack of classes ect. there certainly seems to be "a bias".

    It's so sad really, very nearly a dying art. That's so awful to think that there are people out there not just pushing ahead, but forcefully pushing back on the past. UGH! :shock:

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    I am so jealous of you ! Wish I could hand quilt. You are so correct about it being relaxing and being able to do it with company without all the noise of a machine or being sent to another room by yourself. Shame on the shop owner :x Bet she doesn't have the patience or skill fro hand quilting !

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    I appreciate all your comments. I do not pretend to be some great quilter, I stick to simple patterns and am pretty new at it. I do want to say that although this shop owner left something to be desired her shop itself was absolutely fabulous! It's a very charming shop off the beaten path of the Minnesota North Shore and has the biggest selection I have ever seen. If only she would ease up! :) If I am ever up there again I will definitely go back. Man, now I have visions of fabric bolts dancing in my head!!! Maybe I will have to make a little visit to my local shop tomorrow for a fix! :)

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    The sales person probably couldnt see past the dollar signs she was seeing envisioning the machine she could sell to you...
    I am only a newbie and have started with machine quilting but i am seriously considering starting to handquilt something as like you said it is nice to be able to sit on the lounge with your hubby and watch tv.
    Maybe you could put up a notice in her shop for likeminded handquilters to join you and see how much interest you get.....

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    Just posted 3 that I finished the last couple weeks in the pic section. Take a look!

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    oooh, I like the idea of putting up a notice at her shop....our lqs has a board that we can post just about anything quilting related on. i love it....lets everyone know when quilt shows are, other vendors in the area, etc.

    I'm sorry that you had this experience...there's room for all types of quilters in this art form. I'm a little surrised there is such bias against hand quilters. I hand quilt but tend to piece by machine. I've had people judge me because I didn't do the entire thing by hand...people who thought it was terrible to put bias on by machine on the side you don't even see :lol: it takes all kinds :roll:

    Rest easy....no quilt police here. Besides, there are a ton of shop owners who would LOVE to snatch you right up....even out here on the web if you don't have local options. Best wishes and happy sewing!

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    Having been in the quilt "industry" and attended a few seminars for quilt shop owners/teachers...

    Hand quilters are not nearly as "profitable" as machine piecers/quilters. It takes a lot longer to make each quilt, so they don't usually buy as much fabric as a machine quilter. Statistically, hand quilters don't accumulate as large a fabric stash as machine quilters, neither do they make as many impulse purchases. They don't often buy the sewing machines and accessories and specialty gadgets. Many hand quilters use scissors instead of rotary cutters (mats, cutters, blades, rulers), so those sales are lost. Also, hand quilters don't buy as many books and patterns.

    Many quilt shops stay profitable ONLY because of their machine quilting services.

    It is in the best financial interest of the quilt shop to get you sewing MANY quilts - repeat business, fast turnover, and using as many specialty tools and books as possible.

    I like hand piecing and quilting, too!

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    I love to hand quilt my quilts. I love the look of hand quilting.

    As for hand- sewing, I really admire you for being able to do a whole quilt that way. Amazing stuff!

    I sew day time on my machine and then at night when I like the quiet times I hand quilt a recently finished quilt top or applique ( like my chicken quilt). I like the balance!

    If you were in a quilt store the lady was probably thinking , "I could sell you more fabric if you used a sewing machine!" Some people are motivated by money! As for me? I think it is terrific there are people who do all their sewing by hand!

    Lori

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    I never really thought about it that way. That's a good point. Maybe she got so caught up in making money that she lost her true love for the art. She did make some gorgeous quilts, though! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chele
    I bow to hand piecers and quilters! Everything you make looks beautiful. I am green with envy of your hand sewing skills. Keep sewing, girl! You know it looks gorgeous!
    Chele said it all, no better words I can think of. You keep sewing Girl, Wish I could make those little uniform stiches, My Mom could, such tiny straight uniform stiches, Mine :lol: :lol: :lol: You don't want to see believe me. Bill's BonBon

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    All of my quilt tops I have put together by hand ( with the exception of my Irish Chain that I did last month) and I do my quilting by hand. Hand quilting is a dying Art and I am proud to be one in a small group of quilters that is keeping the art alive because we love it and there are a lot of people out there that would rather pay good money for a hand quilted quilt than a machine quilted one and then you have people like that person at the quilt shop that does not appreciate the beauty of HANDMADE.

    So girl be proud of your work because is beautiful.

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    Every time I sit and hand quilt this little hand appliqued wall hanging I have been working on for about 5 years, I say to my DH - I couldn't even imagine quilting a queen size quilt by hand.

    I totally admire everyone who hand quilts, and those who hand piece are amazing as well!!

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    Because I always try to find the bright side :D :D :D ....Maybe this shop keeper had been beat up by a hand quilter who doesn't think machining is real...you never know!! Maybe she's just on the defensive all the time. I wish I could do the hand work, actually I've never tried, but know my own limitations, and patience is definately one of them...so until I am really comfortable with what I consider the easier way (for me its machine because I see results quicker), hand work will have to wait :lol: For now I only dream. You keep doing whatever makes you happy, after all, that's the whole point, right???? Kudos to you :D :D :D

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    I began as a hand quilter and piecer. I now generally sew on machine and hand quilt now. I've quilted a few by machine but, I like you enjoy the experience of hand quilting. And I like the stitches to be not perfect, it seems more homey to me. I don't like the huge stitches that are in most of the boughten Hand Made quilts. My mother in law could get nine stitches on a needle but I'm lucky to get five. People have asked me if I would think about selling my quilts and I always say," no one has enough money." I've made about sixty over the past 30 years and I have given all but four away. I have to admit since I started machine piecing it goes much faster but I can never sew a curve as well by machine as I can by hand.When my kids were little and into activities I was fortunate to get a quilt made every couple years. I too wish they had a class of hand quilting, I did a sampler once with a group and we did one square a week and it was so much fun to see the others.
    when I don't have a quilt to work on while watching TV I feel lazy. You go girl, everyone appreciates an hand pieced and quilted quilt, but few of us take the time to do them.

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    I have great admiration for hand quilters. It takes dedication and patience that most of us (me especially) cannot even dream up... Not to mention the end results are so obviously stitched with love and thoughtfulness.
    Maybe that shopkeeper is just unable to comprehend why ANYONE would want to take that kind of time to do something. Just keep up the good work, and know that many of us bow to your talent, hardwork, and dedication.

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    Krazyquilter,

    I am a handquilter. While I do machine quilt my chairty quilts and items for small children I prefer hand quilting. I machine piece and applique when absolutely necessary but I prefer to do wholecloth or someone else's piecing or appliquing. I prefer to do craft and garmet sewing so the majority of my quilt peicing are basic simple patterns. I once worked for a Bernina dealer who made ends meet by doing custom dressmaking and alterations. I was the one who got to do most of the hand finishing in the shop. They laughed at me because I used a quilting "between" needle to hem garmets etc.

    The shop owner probably figured that you would not be a good customer because she thought you would take so long to finish a project that you wouldn't purchase much. Our society is general seems to be in an awlful hurry. The joke is on them. Handwork can be as fast or faster than machine, a whole lot less expensive and totally portable. I am famous for hand quilting those preprinted panels into wall hangings as gifts. Just this summer I gave two of them as gifts to a niece and a nephew that got married. I can whip out one of them in a week or so of watching TV in the evening. Don't let anyone talk you out of your handwork. According to doctors it is great for your bloodpressure.

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    Krazy Quilter

    Don't let her get to you. I guess I'm lucky. My LQS DOES have c;lasses in hand piecing and hand quilting. In fact, there is a new method out by the Thimblelady on how to quilt without pricking your finger. The hand piecing class usually uses the Grandmother's Flower Garden hexagons to teach the technique.

    However, as Contrary Mary said, Jenny Byer is very well know for her hand piecing. She says she doesn't have time to go sit at a machine. But she always has something bagged up (in a ziploc bag) ready to grab on her way out the door to work on.

    I'm also doing a Grandmother's Flower Garden for that reason. As I sit and listen during seminars, I am able to stay awake and alert if I have something to do with my hands.

    Check out Jenny Byers site. I have her book, and there's really nothing to learn about hand piecing EXCEPT sewing from 'dot to dot'. Jenny has a good book on the subject of hand piecing if you're interested.

    I haven't really gotten to the hand quilting yet (haven't actually finished a quilt), but I intend to hand quilt most, if not all, of my quilts.

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    I too hand piece and hand quilt and love it too. My prob is not others but myself:)I want too many quilts and never enough time...so, I do 'cheat' as I call it and machine them too. :0) I love both avenues of quilting. I have purchased an amazing appliq. quilt that is just the top. All hand done and I will hand quilt that -for it is only right to do so:))I have many friends that machine piece yet hand quilt. And, you have to realize in a situation like you experienced is it is prob someone w/the serious lack of 'people skills' and communication:))And, we also have to remember that those mean girls from middle school...remember them...the insecurity issues, etc...they did grow up and go somewhere:))LOL Keep doing what your heart desires...I enjoy the rhythm of hand work and the looks of it too:0).....smile at ignorance!:))Skeat

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    I love to see hand quilted quilts and in awe of anybody who hand quilts. I do not have the patiences. Although I am going to try it after the first of the year. Wish me luck. :D

    The store keeper was just seeing missed sales as Cathe said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeat
    And, we also have to remember that those mean girls from middle school...remember them...the insecurity issues, etc...they did grow up and go somewhere:))LOL
    Too funny but absolutely right!!!!!!

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    :roll: I dont hand piece much because it hurts the side of my finger.But I feel terrible when I say I dont care for machine quilting and they give you that" look"...........If I were you,I would do what I wanted and ignore them.If your happy thats all that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CissyQuilts
    It's a shame you were treated that way. I do a lot of hand quilting and have only received positive comments. I admire you for hand-piecing. I don't have the patience for it. :D
    I probably wouldn't go back to that shop again! I would love to handpiece and quilt a project, my LQSs all have at least one class per quarter on handpiecing or quilting and a few even have a hand pieced and quilted year long sampler classes. I'm really sorry that you were treated that way, I truly do'nt believe that is even close to being how the majority of machine sewers feel about the hand sewers! :-)

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    The very first quilt I finished was a grandmothers flower garden . My Grandmother made all the flowers but never put them together . This was done in either the 30's or 40's. They stayed in her cedar chest . She raised me and shw passed away in 1982 . In 2000 I finally got brave and put it together by hand . No machine sewing except for the border or binding . It isn't finished like it should be , but it's fine with me . Such a treasure to keep ! :D I had a smarty asked me why didn't you machine sew it ? I tried to politely tell her that it was already started by hand and that's how I finished it . Still more sassy remarks . I guess some people think if you don't do it by machine it's awful or something .
    I was handquilting preprinted panels and got the same response . I just think that some things are better hand quilted . Annie

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    Congrats to all hand quilters. I don't have the patience for that, but I really admire those who do. I have some wonderful hand pieced/quilted quilts that my husband's grandmother and mother have done and I really cherish them.

    DD

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    Quote Originally Posted by stitchinMamaw
    The very first quilt I finished was a grandmothers flower garden . My Grandmother made all the flowers but never put them together . This was done in either the 30's or 40's. They stayed in her cedar chest . She raised me and shw passed away in 1982 . In 2000 I finally got brave and put it together by hand . No machine sewing except for the border or binding . It isn't finished like it should be , but it's fine with me . Such a treasure to keep ! :D I had a smarty asked me why didn't you machine sew it ? I tried to politely tell her that it was already started by hand and that's how I finished it . Still more sassy remarks . I guess some people think if you don't do it by machine it's awful or something .
    I was handquilting preprinted panels and got the same response . I just think that some things are better hand quilted . Annie
    What a treasure from yoru gmother! I'm sure you will forever see that quilt and remember her and the hard work she did and the hard work you did out of love for her to complete it!!! :!: :!: I might have to take your idea of starting on a smaller preprinted panel to hqnd quilt. I would love to do it!

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