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Thread: Binding width

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    Super Member Flying_V_Goddess's Avatar
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    The binding I had made for my denim quilt appears to be not wide enough to fit properly...it barely covers the edge. I think my wonderful math skills and the thickness of the fabric (denim-like fabric) attributed to this width problem.

    In any case, I need to make more binding, but I need help on figuring out how thick to cut the strips for the binding...'cause my math skills aren't the greatest. I only got one shot at this since I've only got one pair of jeans to work with (yeah, its thick, but I've already spent too much on this quilt because of mess-ups so I'm not going to make another trip to Wal-Mart and just work with what I already have). Suggestions?

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    What size did you cut the first binding?

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    Hi Flying_V_Goddess
    How wide do you want your finished binding to be? I use double fold straight cut binding, so my rule of thumb is multiply finished width of binding by 6 plus 1/4" for easement. I've never worked with denim though :) so some of these other ladies will probably be able to give you better advise. Cheers, have been following your battle with the denim quilt and have been cheering from the sidelines, so would really love to see a pic when you win :)

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    In the past , using lighter weight fabrics, I have cut the strips 2 1/2 inches and doubled the srip --right sides out and attached it to the quilt. With denim I am not sure if you would want to double it as it might be too thick.

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    I, too, have always used 2 1/2 inch wide strip for binding, maybe for the denim it could be a little wider, 3 inches????

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    That is a good idea--allowing for the extra thickness of the denim. Straight cut --not bias.

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    maybe instead of attaching the binding in the usual way, because of thickness why not just lay it on fold to other side and use a blanket stich or zigzag it on. Or any other fancy stitch

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    Well, I am of no help on that bc most of my creations are figured out as I go....and I'm a newbie to the big stuff...
    BUT....As for jeans....I get mine at a thrift store for 50 cents a pair! usually, i don't find them in my size, I buy for sewing and stuff...
    hth

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    Boy around here they sure aren't .50 a pair, they want 7 and 8 dollars for them and they get them free. I am saving old ones to make a jean quilt for my grandson, but it will be awhile til I get enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zyxquilts
    What size did you cut the first binding?
    Just off the top of my head, I think the fabric strips were 1.25" before they were folded into binding.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShellyQ
    Hi Flying_V_Goddess
    How wide do you want your finished binding to be? I use double fold straight cut binding, so my rule of thumb is multiply finished width of binding by 6 plus 1/4" for easement. I've never worked with denim though :) so some of these other ladies will probably be able to give you better advise. Cheers, have been following your battle with the denim quilt and have been cheering from the sidelines, so would really love to see a pic when you win :)
    What exactly is straight cut binding?

    I want the binding to be the same width as my seam allowance...which is 5/16" (1/16" shy of being 1/4"). So according to your formula and if I'm doing my math right I'd have to cut strips that are... 2 1/8"?


    Quote Originally Posted by ceannastahr
    maybe instead of attaching the binding in the usual way, because of thickness why not just lay it on fold to other side and use a blanket stich or zigzag it on. Or any other fancy stitch
    I really don't want to use the zig zag stitch...just a matter of preference and how much thread it will take to cover 280 inches of raw edges.

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    Straight cut binding is cut on the straight grain instead of the bias, has less give than bias :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShellyQ
    Straight cut binding is cut on the straight grain instead of the bias, has less give than bias :)
    Okay. So if I'm using a pair of jeans for my binding I would cut along the length of the pant leg, right?

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    Probably, just look for grain in fabric, I've not worked with denim before but you might want to allow yourself alittle more than 2 1/8 width Because of the thickness of it. Also 5/16 is more than 1/4. Did you mean 3/16? I think that what the other ladies suggested, 2 1/2 would prob be about right. All the best with it and keep us posted :)

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    Keep in mind that this is a little thicker than an ordinary quilt. You may want to consider 2 3/4 instead if 2 1/2. sometimes its really tight using 2 1/2 on a regular quilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShellyQ
    Probably, just look for grain in fabric, I've not worked with denim before but you might want to allow yourself alittle more than 2 1/8 width Because of the thickness of it. Also 5/16 is more than 1/4. Did you mean 3/16? I think that what the other ladies suggested, 2 1/2 would prob be about right. All the best with it and keep us posted :)
    I'm absolutely positive about the 5/16 seams...I measured them all after I realized my quilt top was an inch or two shorter than what I had planned.

    Does anyone have any suggestions on measuring and cutting strips (without a rotary cutter) that aren't wider or shorter on one end? The first time around, when I made the strips for the binding I just took my yard stick (it was wide as the strips I needed to make) and traced that onto the fabric. But I don't have anything that's 2-3 inches wide to trace onto the fabric and I can't draw two paralell lines "freehand" on fabric to save my life (this is coming from someone who always got A's in art classes. lol)

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    I just took my yard stick (it was wide as the strips I needed to make) and traced that onto the fabric. But I don't have anything that's 2-3 inches wide to trace onto the fabric
    Use the yardstick to mark the width you want - make your first line down one side of it, then turn it, use the line you drew as "0", measure over to your width & make some marks at that width, down the length of your line. Turn the yardstick longways again & draw your line to match up the marks. I've attached a word doc with a picture....I hope it works!

    Hope that makes sense!

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    Have you tried measuring in from the edge and putting light dots or marks there then connecting the dots using the yardstick?

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    That's what I was trying to say Vicki! I just couldn't find the right way & ended up sounding so complicated! LOL

    sue

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    ...I could try that and see if that works.

    Just curious, but is there some special way to sew the binding to the edges? I was reading a post a while back (I forget who posted it) where she first sewed it to the back and then flipped it to the front and sewed it again...eh, something like that. I thought you just pin the binding to the edge, stitch it on, and you're done...or can you do that?

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    Usually I fold my binding in half,right sides out, then line up the raw edges, binding on the front & stitch it on. Then I flip it over to the back & hand stitch it down.
    BUT, I saw this on the board this morning:

    Ordinarily, I attach my binding to the right side of the project, turn the edge to the back side, pin under the seam allowance, and then hand stitch. But on this project, I wanted to machine stitch from the top (using my new red/white/blue varigated thread) and catch the seam allowance with a decorative stitch. In doing this in the past, there always seemed to be places where the seam allowance poked out and didn't stay where I had pinned regardless of how many pins I used. Then I had to rip and restitch.

    Somehow, recently, I stitched my binding to the back side by mistake. I scolded myself for my dumb error. Rather than rip, I decided to reverse my practice, pin on the right side and continue with my decorative stitch from the right side. It turned out great!!! No more poking, ripping, restitching.

    Needless to say, I will continue to do my machine-stitched binding in my newly found manner.

    Suzanne
    That sounds like it might work well for your denim!

    sue

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    I'm going to butt in here a minute, FVG, have you thought about cutting another set (of the same width binding) to match what you have, seam them in the middle with a scant seam, and have the seam meet the edge of your quilt?

    Is that clear as mud? PM me if you don't understand what I'm saying. I should be back about 11 PM and if I can still move I'll try to check in.

    When I've made quilts with thicker than usual batting or fabrics and wanted a certain look, I've often done the seaming of two pieces of binding. It take a little more pinning to get the seam to stay exactly on the edge of the quilt, but it is better looking than having to change everything again.

    My own personal rule of thumb for measuring for binding is to add 1/4 inch for fabrics and batting, then add that to the finish look I want on each side of the quilt edge.

    Good luck, I have to get up and get showered to leave for my nephews house, but I'll check back tomorrow afternoon to see what you've decided...

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    FVG if you try to sew both sides of the binding on at the same time I can garuntee you it won't come out right, parts will be missed and parts will be in too far, it just doesn't work.

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    I didn't put a binding on my denim quilt, it had a rag edge. I would use a bright cotton for the binding, or a denim looking cotton if you want it to match.

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    ...none of that made sense. Okay, what would be the best method to sew on binding for someone who has never done it before? Something that's easy and not quite so time consuming, but still gets the job done. I only have until next Tuesday to get this quilt done.

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    Fold your binding strip in half wrong sides together. Pin binding to one side of the quilt. I like to pin it to the right side and once you sew that flip it over to the other side. Pin it to the other side and hand sew it down. Its very difficult when machine stitching to sew both sides at the same time and have it come out looking good and have the binding in the exact place that it needs to be. Thats why one side is done by machine and one side is done by hand. I am at work now, and don't have time to research it and find you a link, but if you google on sewing quilt binding, you can probably find some more help and probably pictures too. Good luck. I am so proud of you for sticking to it! Give yourself a big pat on the back from all of us!

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