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    This is so sad. I get so tired of grocery people laying my change on the receipt and handing all of it to me. They can't count change either. You have to watch your change, and count it right there. I had a Sonic guy make wrong change to me not long ago. Everyone needs to stay on the soapbox!

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    Well, I am still teaching HS and I try very hard to teach my students to read a clock(not digital), set an oven timer, balance a checkbook, make a budget, apply for a job on "an old fashion" paper application, make a (healthy) grocery list, did I say "boil" water?
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    any pattern that shows abbreviations should also include what they mean somewhere in the directions. most irritating!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbie View Post
    I'm sorry I can't help you out, I have no idea what that means. I hate abbrevations on patterns like that, I think too many people including designers are just getting LAZY, they are so engrossed in the texting, twittering and all, that they think everyone else does this. I do neither, and hate for people to use abbreviations when they could just as easily print the meaning out or orally say it. This high tech world we now live in is truly ruining our children in school. I am a retired First Grade teacher and retired in 2004. A few years before retirement, our brilliant state legislators and educators decided that Handwriting and Spelling were no long necessary as part of the curriculum, how sad. When tutoring after retirement, many of my 4th and 5th grade students did not even know how to write their name or write anything else. They could print whatever they wanted, but could not write it in cursive handwriting. So many could not spell anything either. I suppose Math and Reading will be next. Sorry will not step down from my "Soap Box."
    Totally agree. But you know what? "Dumbed Down" kids become " Dumbed Down" adults and much easier to
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    Quote Originally Posted by nativetexan View Post
    more abbreviations? I'm beginning to hate them. i'd contact the pattern maker!!!
    I hate them, too. It took me some time to realize DSM was Domestic Sewing Machine. This is what phone texting has done to us, I think (can you tell I don't text?)

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    Maybe it means OTL of the lining ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Quilter Amanda View Post
    I have a purse pattern, and in the cutting directions it tell me to: cut 4" OTL, what does OTL mean, I have no clue and have never seen this before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barny View Post
    This is so sad. I get so tired of grocery people laying my change on the receipt and handing all of it to me. They can't count change either. You have to watch your change, and count it right there. I had a Sonic guy make wrong change to me not long ago. Everyone needs to stay on the soapbox!
    Oldtimers like me have this discussion constantly. Employees can no longer count change back. If the register didn't give them a read-out, they'd be clueless. And how do you feel about clerks (fast food, bank, retail stores, everywhere) saying "No problem" in response to your thanking them. Whatever happened to "you're welcome?"

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    On the Line ?? Just guessing

    Quote Originally Posted by Quilter Amanda View Post
    I have a purse pattern, and in the cutting directions it tell me to: cut 4" OTL, what does OTL mean, I have no clue and have never seen this before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barny View Post
    This is so sad. I get so tired of grocery people laying my change on the receipt and handing all of it to me. They can't count change either. You have to watch your change, and count it right there. I had a Sonic guy make wrong change to me not long ago. Everyone needs to stay on the soapbox!
    There's a place for the calculator, but it shouldn't mean your brain is in sleep mode while using it! You still need to be awake and use common sense. About a year ago, I had a checkout person actually count out in my hand change which totaled more then the single bill I gave to pay for my item! Then looked at me dumbfounded when I said "This can't be right." So I had to say, "Do you realize you gave me back in change more than I gave you to pay for that?" Obviously an incorrect number was entered into the cash register, but the employee mindlessly gave me what the register said to give me in change. Brain, off. Common sense, off. Did you ever hand them the change beyond the dollar value you owe, just after they punched the dollar amount into the register? (Example: You owe $18.02, hand them a $20 bill, then get the 2 cents out of your change compartment, and they've already punched $20.00 into the register.) Lol! Many are completely lost! and have no idea what to give you in change! Do it sometime on purpose, just for the laugh! The same danger exists when using a Garmin, or anything else similar. We have to stay alert!
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    I would take it to mean "on the line"; but that is a new one.
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    Evidence of poor grammar is certainly obvious when viewing posts on other sites. It angers me to see the poor usage of there, their, etc. We learned usage at home. Mother was a stickler for good grammar, as she knew it. Also, manners, we were never allowed to say shut the door, it was close the door. God forbid we would say , "Shut up" to anyone. We could use "Be Quiet" instead. I must sound terribly antiquated to young people.

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    What is a "Garmin" ??? My OTL guess - off the length-- If the outside is folded down over the lining. the lining would be cut shorter? ..if it is a piece to be used to make handles..that would be about right.. I sometimes wonder what other letters mean. makes for lots of puzzles..(puzzles are supposed to wardoffalsheimers)LOL


    Quote Originally Posted by JustAbitCrazy View Post
    There's a place for the calculator, but it shouldn't mean your brain is in sleep mode while using it! You still need to be awake and use common sense. About a year ago, I had a checkout person actually count out in my hand change which totaled more then the single bill I gave to pay for my item! Then looked at me dumbfounded when I said "This can't be right." So I had to say, "Do you realize you gave me back in change more than I gave you to pay for that?" Obviously an incorrect number was entered into the cash register, but the employee mindlessly gave me what the register said to give me in change. Brain, off. Common sense, off. Did you ever hand them the change beyond the dollar value you owe, just after they punched the dollar amount into the register? (Example: You owe $18.02, hand them a $20 bill, then get the 2 cents out of your change compartment, and they've already punched $20.00 into the register.) Lol! Many are completely lost! and have no idea what to give you in change! Do it sometime on purpose, just for the laugh! The same danger exists when using a Garmin, or anything else similar. We have to stay alert!

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    I am with all of you, those abbreviations are puzzling to us who have learned spelling long ago. We are loosing so much without spelling and writing. Today, how can they tell if something is spelled wrong unless it is on the computer that tells them.
    I also hate signs that appear different places such as along the road. I catch myself talking to them and telling them to write what you want me to know, I can read.
    I worry about the younger generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LenaBeena View Post
    ...Outsmart the Lizard?...
    This is what I think it means. And if it doesn't, I want it to!

    On the topic of grammar, spelling, change-making, and general other declining abilities: Today I was volunteering at my child's school and I had someone ask me to proofread something they had just written. I pointed out that she had used "compliment" when she meant "complement" and her response was "I'm sure nobody else will care either." (meaning the people to whom she was sending it). I was a bit taken aback...and I won't be proofreading for her again!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alisonquilts View Post
    This is what I think it means. And if it doesn't, I want it to!

    On the topic of grammar, spelling, change-making, and general other declining abilities: Today I was volunteering at my child's school and I had someone ask me to proofread something they had just written. I pointed out that she had used "compliment" when she meant "complement" and her response was "I'm sure nobody else will care either." (meaning the people to whom she was sending it). I was a bit taken aback...and I won't be proofreading for her again!!

    Alison
    Actually, I thought it was Oinks Too Loud!
    What you didn't tell us was whether this was a student? or adult? for whom you will never proofread for again!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LenaBeena View Post
    Out to Lunch? Organize the Library? Off to London? Oval Tipped Lace? Orange Tiled Laundry? Oxyclean The Linen? Our True Love? Only the Lonely? Open the Lever? Occupational Therapy Lady? Odd Trapping Lure? Observe Top Level?
    Oinks too Loud? Often the Last? Original Thread Line? Overlap the Length? Outsmart the Lizard? Override the Legend?
    Quote Originally Posted by QuiltE View Post
    Actually, I thought it was Oinks Too Loud!
    What you didn't tell us was whether this was a student? or adult? for whom you will never proofread for again!!!
    Adult who is a "permanent" substitute teacher. (Not a trained teacher but someone filling in long term for a regular teacher.) Seemed a little discourteous...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbie View Post
    I'm sorry I can't help you out, I have no idea what that means. I hate abbrevations on patterns like that, I think too many people including designers are just getting LAZY, they are so engrossed in the texting, twittering and all, that they think everyone else does this. I do neither, and hate for people to use abbreviations when they could just as easily print the meaning out or orally say it. This high tech world we now live in is truly ruining our children in school. I am a retired First Grade teacher and retired in 2004. A few years before retirement, our brilliant state legislators and educators decided that Handwriting and Spelling were no long necessary as part of the curriculum, how sad. When tutoring after retirement, many of my 4th and 5th grade students did not even know how to write their name or write anything else. They could print whatever they wanted, but could not write it in cursive handwriting. So many could not spell anything either. I suppose Math and Reading will be next. Sorry will not step down from my "Soap Box."
    First let me say, I"m having a blast reading all the post which sidetracked off the initial question, but I understand. Unfortunately for me, spelling was not my best subject, nor proper English. I was raised by wonderful parents whom gave up many things to give us a proper education, however, being raised in an area where everyone spoke broken English, how else was I to speak. Raised on the River in "Cajun" territory. Now we weren't dumb, just spoke broken English. Then I started to work for the local phone company and when we noted records ( to save space) it was written with no vowels. Like, Cus cld 2dy. So I didn't need to know how to spell, and thank God for spell check, cause I'm horrible. My oldest daughter corrected my English all the time, but I told her " What you expect, I'm a "coon-ass" and we don't speak properly. But math, I still use my brain, calculators are used when I need to add lots. So that's my story and I'm sticking to it. My beef with the young is respect, no work ethics, laziness, and them thinking " I can't help, that's not my job," or "I don't want to sweat for money." I"m am so thankful to have been raised where hard work was expected. Okay, I'm off my soapbox now.
    Oh, about the original question. I agree their should be a spot for explanation of abbreviations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alisonquilts View Post
    Adult who is a "permanent" substitute teacher. (Not a trained teacher but someone filling in long term for a regular teacher.) Seemed a little discourteous...
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    I've not heard those initials before either. Please let us know when you find out!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaskaAlice View Post
    What is a "Garmin" ??? My OTL guess - off the length-- If the outside is folded down over the lining. the lining would be cut shorter? ..if it is a piece to be used to make handles..that would be about right.. I sometimes wonder what other letters mean. makes for lots of puzzles..(puzzles are supposed to wardoffalsheimers)LOL
    A Garmin is a brand name GPS (Guidance ---- System. Forgot what the middle word is)

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    A Garmin is a Global Positioning System. Love our Garmin-saved us on many occasions. Nope, neither one of us have those fancy shmancy phones that do everything except wash out your underwear for you.
    For the purse pattern and the OTL, I would think if you would have given the name of the purse, designer, or site where you found the pattern, you may have had your answer within the first few posts. Many of us have purse patterns and many of us love perusing the web and finding stuff out. Happy to help if you can give us more info. Not all patterns are written clear-cut.

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    Just want to give my opinion on abreviations: as a retired RN I have seen my share of other nurses make up their own abreviations when charting that are not even legal!

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    Thank you for straightening out my muddled answer to GPS. I came in to do that this morning to see you already told everyone what GPS actually stands for, lol!

    Quote Originally Posted by NanaCsews2 View Post
    A Garmin is a Global Positioning System. Love our Garmin-saved us on many occasions. Nope, neither one of us have those fancy shmancy phones that do everything except wash out your underwear for you.
    For the purse pattern and the OTL, I would think if you would have given the name of the purse, designer, or site where you found the pattern, you may have had your answer within the first few posts. Many of us have purse patterns and many of us love perusing the web and finding stuff out. Happy to help if you can give us more info. Not all patterns are written clear-cut.

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