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    does anyone know what this mean?

    I have a purse pattern, and in the cutting directions it tell me to: cut 4" OTL, what does OTL mean, I have no clue and have never seen this before.

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    off the length? I'd have to see more of the directions to be certain. perhaps because it is a purse it is referring to the lining?
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    over the line? just a guess

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    never seen that either.

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    OTL usually means "outside the lines" but it's a sports reference, so I am not sure how that applies to sewing on fabric.
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    I'm also thinking Off The Length ... perhaps these are your handles?

    Look thru the pattern thoroughly ... there's probably somewhere that they have shown the acronyms they are using.
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    more abbreviations? I'm beginning to hate them. i'd contact the pattern maker!!!

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    If they meant along the length of fabric, they should have said LOF (as opposed to WOF=width of fabric). OTL is a strange one.

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    OTL means on the line over here (seams included) but as suggested above I think it's best to check with the pattern maker.
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    I'm with you nativetexan.
    Sure gets challenging to learn what all these letters mean.
    Guess spelling it out is = NLAO = no longer an option.

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    Write the designer and ask what it means

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    I've seen that in a quilt pattern. It meant Cut__ inches Off the Length of one of the strips that were cut.
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    It probably means some words that are so difficult to spell and take such a long time to type that they have to be abbreviated. As far as I'm concerned, it's nothing but pure laziness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HillCountryGal View Post
    I'm with you nativetexan.
    Sure gets challenging to learn what all these letters mean.
    Guess spelling it out is = NLAO = no longer an option.
    LOL! Clever.

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    Let us know if you find out. Good Luck

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    Contact the seller/designer. They need to know that their technical directions are not easy to understand. Technical writers often assume we are familiar with all "slang"

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    Quote Originally Posted by nativetexan View Post
    more abbreviations? I'm beginning to hate them. i'd contact the pattern maker!!!
    I'm with you, Nativetexan! Whatever happened to the 3 Cs (clear, concise, correct) of communication---especially in any kind of directions.

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    I'm sorry I can't help you out, I have no idea what that means. I hate abbrevations on patterns like that, I think too many people including designers are just getting LAZY, they are so engrossed in the texting, twittering and all, that they think everyone else does this. I do neither, and hate for people to use abbreviations when they could just as easily print the meaning out or orally say it. This high tech world we now live in is truly ruining our children in school. I am a retired First Grade teacher and retired in 2004. A few years before retirement, our brilliant state legislators and educators decided that Handwriting and Spelling were no long necessary as part of the curriculum, how sad. When tutoring after retirement, many of my 4th and 5th grade students did not even know how to write their name or write anything else. They could print whatever they wanted, but could not write it in cursive handwriting. So many could not spell anything either. I suppose Math and Reading will be next. Sorry will not step down from my "Soap Box."

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    Gerbie, I feel the same way. Also, listening to the slang words our local tv personalities use causes me to talk to the television!

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    I use to volunteer in the local public school and saw first hand the kids were taught pass the benchmark tests not that they understood what they were taught. These same kids are graduating and guess what, become the educators that make the education rules.
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    Read carefully. Are you making a purse with a flat bottom.? Yes.then the bas will b telling you to set up the base into a triangle corner. Draw a line across triangle to make te base line of said triangle. It could be 4 inches from point. Now cut OTL. THAT IS ON TH LINE JUST DRAW BUT I WOULD SEW ON LINE AND CUT .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbie View Post
    I'm sorry I can't help you out, I have no idea what that means. I hate abbrevations on patterns like that, I think too many people including designers are just getting LAZY, they are so engrossed in the texting, twittering and all, that they think everyone else does this. I do neither, and hate for people to use abbreviations when they could just as easily print the meaning out or orally say it. This high tech world we now live in is truly ruining our children in school. I am a retired First Grade teacher and retired in 2004. A few years before retirement, our brilliant state legislators and educators decided that Handwriting and Spelling were no long necessary as part of the curriculum, how sad. When tutoring after retirement, many of my 4th and 5th grade students did not even know how to write their name or write anything else. They could print whatever they wanted, but could not write it in cursive handwriting. So many could not spell anything either. I suppose Math and Reading will be next. Sorry will not step down from my "Soap Box."
    I'm right up there with you, Gerbie! I'm a retired first grade teacher and it hurts my heart to see the penmanship of former students (grandson included)! I don't know what they call what they do. It's not manuscript and it's not cursive...barely legible (if at all)! I think the math will be next because, as it is, the computers and calculators have taken over. Just before I retired, math textbooks came with a calculator per book. Well I put them in the closet and taught my students addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division fact. We did take the little gizmos out to learn to use them and practice, but not before the "old fashioned fact" were memorized. I know there are a lot to be said about automation and the world of electronics, but there is a lot to be said about whatever you don't use, you lose. Brains are getting mushy-er and mushy-er. I will stay up on my soapbox as long as I have my sanity.
    By the way (BTW) I don't like abbreviations either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GailG View Post
    I'm right up there with you, Gerbie! I'm a retired first grade teacher and it hurts my heart to see the penmanship of former students (grandson included)! I don't know what they call what they do. It's not manuscript and it's not cursive...barely legible (if at all)! I think the math will be next because, as it is, the computers and calculators have taken over. Just before I retired, math textbooks came with a calculator per book. Well I put them in the closet and taught my students addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division fact. We did take the little gizmos out to learn to use them and practice, but not before the "old fashioned fact" were memorized. I know there are a lot to be said about automation and the world of electronics, but there is a lot to be said about whatever you don't use, you lose. Brains are getting mushy-er and mushy-er. I will stay up on my soapbox as long as I have my sanity.
    By the way (BTW) I don't like abbreviations either.
    Another retired teacher here. I sub often and find the students cannot tell time on clocks that are not digital.

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