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    Enlarged Nordic Star block

    Recently I asked for help to enlarge a 4 1/2" Nordic Star block. Thanks to all who replied with suggestions. Barb in Louisiana sent me results from her EQ7 which were very helpful. I decided to try to paper piece the block instructions she sent & this is my results. It is just short of being 12 1/2" unfinished (short by about 1/4" all around) so now I need to know what to do to increase it just a tad more so it will finish out at 12 1/2". Paper piecing is very, very difficult for me but I decided to try to tackle it. It took me about 4 hours to make this block. I had to re-do a couple of sections because I had the wrong color of fabric in the wrong place & had to rip out some where my fabric pieces were not large enough. I tried to enlarge the pattern but could not figure out how my printer could do that. Does anyone think I could just make the center sashings just a tad wider? If so, how would I do that? Any new suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    Also, notice that the focal fabric has butterflies in it. I couldn't seem get them to be a part of the block. Everything about PPing is so backwards to me that I just can't wrap my mind around that technique. I won't be using a fabric that needs to by fussy cut in my final block....thank goodness!
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    I’ve never made one so I can’t be any help but your block is so pretty. I want to make one. Stars are my favorite blocks.
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    I don't do PP but yours looks great to me.
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    I keep re-thinking this block & now I'm wondering how it would look without the middle sashing. That would make the block smaller & then I could just add sashing strips around each outside & then trim to 12 1/2" unfinished. I really like the center sashing but eliminating it might be my solution. Any thoughts on this.

    jcrow, stars are my favorite also. I love any quilt with stars!

    Jingle, I don't do PP either but am determined to keep trying until I'm comfortable with it because I love the look of it.

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    It is the middle sashing that throws off all the other measurements. For an easy fix, just increase the sashing width to make the block come out to size.
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    Yes you can add the extra 1/4 to the 4 middle strips which is one way
    ...I always cut my outside pieces larger abt 1/2 inch over on the outside all around until sq'd up.
    This way when you sq up each block you'll have slightly larger block that you can then cut to your exact size. You'd have the exact 1/4 inch your missing then. As you can see on the bottom right once you sew that to another block or sashing your going to lose your point. At least that's how it looks in the photo you don't have 1/4 inch seam on that one...
    So when you sq each of those 4 blocks each should be 6 1/2 sq and when you sew them together will measure 12 1/2.
    Regarding getting a certain subject in a section...again you have to cut pieces larger center the subject and you'll have the extra fabric to trim away to the 1/4 inch if it's a center piece...If an outside piece just remember to leave more then the 1/4 until sq'ing up. Hope this makes sense and helps...

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    You can simply add 1/2" to the width of the centre strips (& block) to make it larger.

    Or - to retry - Trim each HST to 3 1/4" - cut 1 1/2" strips for the centre pieces, and the corner unit. The square for the corner unit is cut at 2 1/4". This unit should also be trimmed to 3 1/4".

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    Glad I was able to help. I reprinted the foundation as a 12.25 finished block. See if this gets you where you want to be.
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    Thank you so much, Barb! I'm going to try that one today. Would it be to much to ask of you to calculate one for a 10" finished block also? That way I could add a small border around it & trim it off to be a 12 1/2" unfinished block? I do a lot of my 12 1/2" blocks that way since it's hard for me to get good, accurate 12 1/2" blocks the right size. It must be my seams or something but this time I want to make PP'd blocks. One of these days I hope to get PPing down without so much concentration. It's a real brain drag on me but I'm still trying. Thanks again!

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    I have successfully blocked blocks that measured 12 1/4 as opposed to 12 1/2. It will keep the shape and size once dry and once in the quilt, as long as it is stableized sufficently with quilting it should be fine. You may chop a point once assembled but it won't be noticable unless in a show and being judged and then only the judge or other quilters may or may not notice. However, I am wondering why you chose to Paper piece this block? It is made up of HST which can easily be made without PP. I usually reserve PP for odd angles like Mariner's Compass or NYB blocks where the points end up very narrow and need to be pointy for the full effect of the pattern.

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    I think the sashing was added (by the original pattern designer) to avoid the 8 seam center, if you don't mind doing an 8 seam center it could be removed.
    Quote Originally Posted by osewme View Post
    I keep re-thinking this block & now I'm wondering how it would look without the middle sashing. That would make the block smaller & then I could just add sashing strips around each outside & then trim to 12 1/2" unfinished. I really like the center sashing but eliminating it might be my solution. Any thoughts on this.

    jcrow, stars are my favorite also. I love any quilt with stars!

    Jingle, I don't do PP either but am determined to keep trying until I'm comfortable with it because I love the look of it.
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    Thanks feline for your input. I chose to PP the block because I could not figure out the measurements to make it into an unfinished 12 1/2" block. Barb came up with a PP version on her EQ7. The original blocks instructions were for a 4 1/2" block here:

    http://thecraftyquilter.com/2014/11/...comment-274166

    I would prefer to not have to PP it as I'm so slow at that & don't have PP experience but have not come up with good measurements for a traditional pieced block. A smaller pieced block that I could just at borders to would be ideal. This block will be one of several that I want to make for a charity block drive that I participate in semi-monthly. Thanks for anyone's help & input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osewme View Post
    Thanks feline for your input. I chose to PP the block because I could not figure out the measurements to make it into an unfinished 12 1/2" block. Barb came up with a PP version on her EQ7. The original blocks instructions were for a 4 1/2" block here:

    http://thecraftyquilter.com/2014/11/...comment-274166

    I would prefer to not have to PP it as I'm so slow at that & don't have PP experience but have not come up with good measurements for a traditional pieced block. A smaller pieced block that I could just at borders to would be ideal. This block will be one of several that I want to make for a charity block drive that I participate in semi-monthly. Thanks for anyone's help & input.
    To make this block without PP I would make your HST to measure 3 1/4 unfinished to finish in the block at 2 3/4. Your inside sash cut at 1 1/2 to finish at 1". Your corner blocks would require cutting the dark orange square at 1 7/8 wide and your light orange at the same width. Assuming you strip piece those two, should end up with a strip set that measures 3 1/4 wide. sub cut those down to 1 7/8 x 3 1/4 units. You can then take another light orange 1 7/8 strip and sew that to the side to make the corner unit which should measure 3 1/4 square unfinished. Please test with scraps as I just figured quickly on paper.

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    These are the foundations for a 10 inch block and a 10 1/4 inch if you end up short on the 10. It is very easy in EQ7 to change the size of the blocks. Love this program.
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    Other than you are wanting to learn to PP, why have you chosen to do this block using that technique? It is a lot of half-square triangles and straight seams that should go together pretty easily without the paper. I'm up for easy and think to do this design with PP is making it more difficult.

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    I was looking closely at your block and you're going to lose the points of the stars in a couple of places...check the size of those half-square triangles...can you see what I mean? Paper piecing is usually very precise...are you staying within the lines? Maybe scootch over a bit to make the seam come out so that you get just a little more fabric where you'll need it for your points....be sure to use a thin thread..aurofill changed all my quilting accuracy to much better. Hope this is helpful.

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    Barb, I love paperpiecing (I learned the Carol Doak method) and thank you for doing up this pattern in these different sizes. Question I have is, why are the dimensions not for 12 1/2" or 10 1/2". Doesn't a 12 1/2" make up to be 12" blocks etc? I know I'm missing something obvious. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by baywinds View Post
    Barb, I love paperpiecing (I learned the Carol Doak method) and thank you for doing up this pattern in these different sizes. Question I have is, why are the dimensions not for 12 1/2" or 10 1/2". Doesn't a 12 1/2" make up to be 12" blocks etc? I know I'm missing something obvious. Thanks
    I am only giving measurements for the finished block. I explained to osewme in a prior thread that the seam allowance was added to each block. You can see it if you open the pdf's. Osewme didn't get a big enough block when I did her a finished 12" one. It could be where she's sewing on the lines, or the thickness of her thread. So I changed the output to be a 12 1/4" block because she was a 1/4" shy of a 12 inch block. That should come out with the 12 inch finished that she wants. When she said she was thinking about making a 10 inch block and adding a border around each block, I gave her the two sizes 10 inch and 10 1/4 inch finished.

    Personally I would have done this as a finished 12 1/2 inch block, making the corner sections as a 6 inch square and the sashing as 1/2 inch. But that is just me.
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    Thanks, I missed that you were giving her the finished sizes, and I thank you again for doing these instructions. Sure wish I would spend the time to teach myself my EQ7.I've got it, just haven't sat down with it. Susan

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    I, for one, cannot paper piece. I am left-handed and dyslexic, so I gave up years ago, though I tried mightily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baywinds View Post
    Thanks, I missed that you were giving her the finished sizes, and I thank you again for doing these instructions. Sure wish I would spend the time to teach myself my EQ7.I've got it, just haven't sat down with it. Susan
    I ended up buying the EQ7 lesson books when they were on sale. The blocks one was very helpful, but I am not really good with blocks, just adequate. I can't seem to remember how to do all the different functions even just for the blocks. But, it has really helped me see the blocks in new quilts I like. I am very bad at reading and comprehending directions in a lot of patterns. They seem to go around in circles to me. Drawing them in EQ makes me understand them.

    I draw a lot of blocks in EQ and figure out how to eliminate some of the seam lines. I don't like flying geese with a seam in the middle of the goose. Sometimes that sets me up to have a little bit more complex block, but I am okay with that. Good luck with learning your program.

    By the way, it would have been a better idea for me to tell osewme to go back and practice her blocks and get her seams to the point where she can make a 12 inch block with a 12 inch pattern. By not doing that she is setting herself up to never be able to do any paper piecing with a complex pattern, like Judy Neimeyer's are.
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    The website page that you saw the smaller version of the block on has instructions for a 13 inch unfinished/12.5 inch finished block at the end of the post. The lady did this design as a mini and a regular block. The bigger block instructions are for regular rotary cutting not paper piecing. Hope this helps.

    Your block is good. Pretty, I like the colors. By the way, I love paper piecing and once you figure it out, you'll love it. As someone once told me. Just sew on the line and check twice before you cut.

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