How to negotiate a good Deal on a new machine - Brother Dreamweaver? Babylock?
#22
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I've never owned a Babylock but I've had 2 Brothers and they were both very good machines. I gave one away to my niece & nephew (CS6000i) and I still have the other (PE770).
#23
I agree with everyone's suggestion to check several dealers. The issue of classes and service can be important or not depending upon the buyers location.
I have an off topic question about the my custom stitch feature you mentioned. I have a new Brother a Dream Creator XE hubby bought me. I'm so quilter primarily. I want to try to create a "double blanket stitch" if I can. I have found tons of video on most features but not anything on the my custom stitch. Do you use this on your Dreamweaver?
I have an off topic question about the my custom stitch feature you mentioned. I have a new Brother a Dream Creator XE hubby bought me. I'm so quilter primarily. I want to try to create a "double blanket stitch" if I can. I have found tons of video on most features but not anything on the my custom stitch. Do you use this on your Dreamweaver?
#24
I think it's more than an urban legend. If you look at the two, many of the parts are identical. And I was recently told by a Babylock dealer that Brother & Babylock are built in the same factory.
I've never owned a Babylock but I've had 2 Brothers and they were both very good machines. I gave one away to my niece & nephew (CS6000i) and I still have the other (PE770).
I've never owned a Babylock but I've had 2 Brothers and they were both very good machines. I gave one away to my niece & nephew (CS6000i) and I still have the other (PE770).
Last edited by MamaHen; 05-22-2014 at 05:00 AM.
#25
I agree with everyone's suggestion to check several dealers. The issue of classes and service can be important or not depending upon the buyers location.
I have an off topic question about the my custom stitch feature you mentioned. I have a new Brother a Dream Creator XE hubby bought me. I'm so quilter primarily. I want to try to create a "double blanket stitch" if I can. I have found tons of video on most features but not anything on the my custom stitch. Do you use this on your Dreamweaver?
I have an off topic question about the my custom stitch feature you mentioned. I have a new Brother a Dream Creator XE hubby bought me. I'm so quilter primarily. I want to try to create a "double blanket stitch" if I can. I have found tons of video on most features but not anything on the my custom stitch. Do you use this on your Dreamweaver?
#26
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Join Date: Mar 2014
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Brother and babylock are basically the same machine and are manufactured by Brother. I have 4 Brother machines and love every one for a different reason. I went with Brother embroidery machines because of the Disney designs. I called the distributor where I live to ask a question about some software I purchased and I asked this very question. They told me that they are the same machine but in some Babylock very high end machines the computer is a little different so some extra "kits" are not interchangeable. Babylocks are advertised more in magazines and on some quilting shows so that adds to the cost but the machines are the same. My biggest machine is an Innovis 6700D. I have a friend with the Babylock Ellisimo (I think that is the equivalent to mine) and even the built in designs are similar except I have Disney as well. I would go with whoever gives you the best deal and you feel the most comfortable dealing with.
#27
Shop around as someone suggested and find out what range of price the machine is going for. The best negotiating advice is: if you're not prepared to walk away from the negotiations, you're not prepared to negotiate. The rest of that says: In a great negotiation, each side is not 100% satisfied. So don't walk in there with "I have to have this machine" dripping from all over you, and in this economy, start low and go slow. Keep emotion out of it. Forget "bruised feelings" and all of that other game playing they use. Keep your eye on the negotiation. If you think you might get it (brand new) for $2,5000 less than the list price, make an offer, and wait to see what they come back with. They might come down by a grand, but throw in a set of presser feet. So then you say: "That sounds nice, but what if we took $2000 off the list price?" Remember, you get nothing for not trying.
#28
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Join Date: Feb 2013
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My sewing machine person said that the factory manufactures both machines. She likened it to the machines being on a conveyor belt and going left for Brother tagging and right for BL tagging. I ended up with the BL crescendo, which I LOVE. Initially I was going to trade in an older machine, but they wouldn't give me much for it, so I basically had the woman go to the manager to see what they could do for me. Once I was told, I didn't think it was good enough, so I just walked away (I mean, I didn't HAVE to have the machine). The salesperson called me about 20 minutes after I got home with a better offer. It's so aggravating though!! Why can't they just give you the best price to begin with?!?!
#29
Or do like I did--go to Paducah and buy a brand new (used by the strolling crowds at the Elna booth) Elna for about half price (so I was told)....But Elna has been my most favoritest sewing machine since 1959 or so, so I pretty much knew what I was getting. But I did get all the dealer's offers (sewing lessons, call in questions answered by someone in the store who is looking at the same machine you are asking questions about, brand new warranty with, I think, 5 years of maintenance free); the only drawback being that Chattanooga is about 150 miles from Lafayette. But DH and I love road trips, so that worked out OK too.
#30
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Texas
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I too agree about shopping around, I have seen the machine I want online brand new for $1,599, I'm still saving but went to the 2 authorized dealers in our town, one of them wanted $2,300.00!! And the other was the same price I found on line. I'll be going to #2 shop when I have the money or maybe sooner if I can get a better deal at the Houston Show in Oct.
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