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Thread: Is Joannes and Hancocks considered

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    I think it's just awful that someone would be expelled due to their workmanship or choice of fabrics! We are all at different levels of quilting expertise & we need to remember that at all times. I can't imagine the hurt that person had to feel because of that. I think that was inexcusable!

    I just finished a round robin where some of us were "experts" & some of us were "beginners". In the end we didn't care, it was fun to see what we ended up with in the end. I've been quilting seriously nearly 30 years now & I still felt intimidated by some of the rounds I had to do. I wanted it to be "just right" so badly. Everyone that received my rounds were so happy with the work it was like a huge weight was lifted off of my shoulders.

    The cigarette smoke smell is something I can't tolerate either. It makes me queasy to smell it, so that is the number one reason I don't participate in swaps unless it's listed as non-smokers only.
    I think it would be a great idea to catagorize the swaps a little & everyone can join the one that appeals to them. ie: smokers or non-smokers, batiks, 30's fabrics, by tone or color, etc. Lots of ways to have a successful swap!

    I know what it feels like to walk into a situation & have everyone "assume" I don't know what I'm doing. If I don't know what to do in a situation I'll ask, but don't assume I'm ignorant! That can be very demeaning! It can also turn a person off from trying anymore. I like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt & give them confidence. I had one gal who used to be in our quilt guild & when I did ask a question, if she was nearby she would actually "shush" me!!!! I finally told her I thought she was one of the rudest persons I had ever met, & she had no right to tell me to shush! She never did it again! I'm a believer there is no such thing as a stupid question! Obviously she was not of like mind!!!

    OK my turn on the soap box is over! LOL Everyone enjoy their projects!

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    I have asthma and it is not just the cigarette smoke that bothers me, but also cat hair. I love cats but I am terribly allergic to anything that has to do with cats. That is the main reason I don't do any kind of swaps.

    Sybil

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    And so many of us quilters have cats! Mine, fortunately stay off the counters & tables... Thus my fabric!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef_Beth
    And so many of us quilters have cats! Mine, fortunately stay off the counters & tables... Thus my fabric!
    Which is why I won't be doing any swapping. :D

    Even if they don't get on the counters and tables their hair probably does if it is anything like my dog. He stays on the floor but his hair is everywhere.

    Sybil

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    All this makes me want to drop out of swaps and rr's....but I've made up my mind that if someone doesn't like what I have to offer thats their problem.............as usual mean people suck :roll: :roll: :roll: :? :? :lol: :lol: 8) 8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruth Camp
    All this makes me want to drop out of swaps and rr's....but I've made up my mind that if someone doesn't like what I have to offer thats their problem.............as usual mean people suck :roll: :roll: :roll: :? :? :lol: :lol: 8) 8)
    Good for you. Do what makes you happy. :D

    Sybil

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    I have been following this topic without commenting but --- oh, dear!

    I am about to begin my first row robin quilt and I'm nervous enough about being creative and doing a good job. Now I have to worry over whether my fabric is good enough or not!

    Years ago I got into a debate over making baby quilts. This one woman said that she spent "X" amount of money per quilt to make sure she got "good" fabric. When I told her I could make several baby quilts for that amount of money, she looked down her nose at me and said that the quilts I made were probably useless. Well, you can imagine how I felt and for several years didn't make any at all!!

    I finally got over myself and went back to making baby quilts. (I made them mostly for friends and co-workers. It seemed like someone at work was always adding to their family!) The point of my "story" is that most of us are limited in the amount of money we can spend. But I feel that if I can make one toddler happy with my "useless" quilt, then I have done "good" that day. It might not have cost a lot of money to make, but it was made with love.

    I also don't give anyone a quilt unless I know it will be used. So many of us put back "nice" stuff to use "later" and what happens? Our relatives sell it at a yard sale after we're gone....


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    This post has made me very sad and leery of participating in another swap. I am in the block swap to be mailed 1/15/09 and just have 2 blocks left and each is 1/2 done. The fabric I have used I consider good quality, but will others? My greatest concern is that the blocks are made well enough. A lot of the blocks were new to me and I did the best I could and I did learn things that I thought I could not do. Being a newbie made me doubt myself, but I did try!!!

    BTW - my house is smoke free!! And I am lucky in that my dog does not shed!

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    Sewjoyce, that woman was cruel!!! I was nervous with my round robin too but it as also fun !!! Just have fun with it!
    I have 2 cats in the house but they pretty much stay out of my sewing room. Just in case I always run a sticky roller over anything I give away or make for someone else! Great for wayward threads too! There are always ways to deal with things. Hopefully no one with bad cat allergies or asthma will suffer because of me. I would feel awful but I would ask if they had these situations in their lives prior to giving it to them. There is always laundering!

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    Sewjoyce your in the same group as me.......I am just as scared as you are but I know I will so excited about what you put on my quilt and holding my breath on yours. I am a beginner I am doing this to have fun and learn whilst doing. Now unless you put a bunch of santas I can tell you I will NOT be judgemental. If anyone else gets upset over my best then I am sorry, but if you want a perfect quilt then you need to do it yourself. This is about friendship and sharing.
    As for fabric I dont care it can even be christmas print or whatever. It can be from walmart, joannes or that exclusive quilt store you have to have an invitation to get in LOL I keep coming back to its about FRIENDSHIP AND SHARING. I spent over 20 years trying to be better than anyone else and found that dont matter. Its whats in your heart and what you are willing to give to another. I will send and do my best and ifthat is not good enough then again I am sorry but you will not make me feel less than. I know who I am and how far I have traveled and what scars and wounds I still have open. I have no clue where you have come from or what battles you are still fighting I will NOT add to them.
    I will say I have cats and dogs . I work with cows so there is animal fur in my house. I DO NOT smoke. I am also alergic to cats BIG time but whats a little coughing and stuffy head to a purring kitty LOL Yes that is MY choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsSage
    I am also alergic to cats BIG time but whats a little coughing and stuffy head to a purring kitty LOL Yes that is MY choice.
    In my case it is a lot more than coughing and a stuffy head. It is more like suffocating. If you have ever had asthma you would know what I mean. I have no choice but to stay away from them.

    Sybil

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    Hey guys if the meanies bother you send all the crap to me. I'll give it a good hope.......I was a victum....no more...you know the old expression like it or lump it....it still pertains....we all try or best to send our best and that is that..........I'm not dropping out of anything :wink:

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    Good for you Ruth! Go get 'em! (The blocks that is, LOL)

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    If you have ever had asthma you would know what I mean.
    Just for your info miss I do HAVE asthma. I understand ALL too well the not being able to breath. The shots and then the treatments and the nebulizers and the whole nine yards.
    Remember never ASSUME anything about anyone.

    David said I should just say
    WHATEVER and move on LOL

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    MsSage I would let everyone in your group know just in case. They maybe can work on it somewhere where there aren't any cats, dogs, smokers or whatever hurts your breathing!
    I always think of the show the Odd Couple when they do the scene about never assume. Good advice!

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    well, now .... don't we have us a nice little squabble boiling on this here stove. :shock:

    howze about we all calm down, regain our perspective, and put on our Preacher's-Comin'-fer-Sunday-Supper manners.

    Look. My dogs smoke. I know ... I know. I tried to get them to kick the habit but they threatened to switch to beer, cigars, and crack so i backed off. naturally, some of the comments - and the tone in which they were offered - ticked me off. but i'm used to it. nowadays ... drunks, junkies, and hookers get more respect and consideration than smokers. i roll with it. :roll:

    i think we might turn this conversation back around into something constructive IF

    1. we individually resolve to either quietly decline to swap OR to accept graciously and gratefully whatever comes our way.

    2. if swapping, don't send anybody anything you wouldn't use yourself.

    3. those among us with allergies and asthma could offer some constructive tips about removing dander, odors, etc from the fabrics we plan to swap immediately before packaging them - so they'll arrive in a less dangerous state to our friends at the other end.

    4. AND those of us with pets (who may or may not smoke) can automatically do those things to every fabric we pop in the mail - whether or not we know the recipient's state of health - and regardless of how we'd treat the stuff we keep for ourselves.

    now ... let's all take a deep breath ... dial 1-800-getoverourselves ... and make nice. don't make me pull over! 8)

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    I love you Patrice!!!! Sorry you have to deal with us!!!

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    How about wet noodles at 10 paces :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsSage
    If you have ever had asthma you would know what I mean.
    Just for your info miss I do HAVE asthma. I understand ALL too well the not being able to breath. The shots and then the treatments and the nebulizers and the whole nine yards.
    Remember never ASSUME anything about anyone.

    David said I should just say
    WHATEVER and move on LOL
    I meant no disrespect and will bow out of this conversation.

    Sybil

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    i love all of you, too, beachlady. oodles and buckets and tons. :-)

    MSage and Sybil ... kiss and make up.

    Ruth! you have noodles that's reach 10 paces? QUICK!!! somebody pass the Alfredo sauce. i finally figured out what i want for dinner! :P

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    Hey we are all just voicing opinions here. I also suffer from asthma but thank God it's a mild condition handled with an inhaler. Of course 2 cats in the house don't help LOL.

    Now for those noodles!!! LOL

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    I am with Ruth WOOHOO that is the best answer yet. I am always do as I want and what I like and if you don't like you don't have to look or participate.

    I understand not getting in for allergies though. That is real tough and can cause serious health risk.

    I say we each choice and pick what is best for us and not worry about what the other guy is doing. That way everyone is happy and content.

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    I am somewhat of a fabric snob as far as what I like in fabrics for myself, (havent had much luck finding civil war fabrics at Walmart!!!) :D
    And as far as the swap I am going to be in, I dont really care if the fabric came from Walmart and has been recycled 5 or 6 times!!!! I will just feel honored to be recieving blocks made from different wonderful ladies from all over the world!!!!! The final quilt made with these blocks will be a treasure to me and will be treated like an heirloom so wont see much actual use.

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    you are a collector. having a personal preference - especially when we're talking about a category - doesn't make you a snob.

    you have a personal preference, but would never sneer at somebody who uses something else. you would graciously accept whatever came your way.

    you are not a snob. :wink:

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    Very well said, Patrice :D

    I participate in a few swaps each year, and like most I treasure what I receive. I don't worry about what I send, because of my other 'hobby' - bargain hunting at quilt shops! I get more fun out of my bargain hunting than should be legal in most places :wink:

    I can see where it would be possible to assume that I spend tons of money on high dollar quilt shop fabric, but nothing could be further from the truth. I think it is genetically impossible for me to pay full price for anything. Today I had convinced myself that I'd have to pay full price for more background fabric for my current project - only to find it half price at the after-Christmas sale :shock: I admit, after I felt my first piece of Red Rooster, I was hooked on good fabric. Everything I touch, I unconsciously compare to it. It doesn't matter where I'm at - quilt shop, Joann's, Hancocks - if it doesn't feel that nice, I just can't bring myself to buy it - not because of what anyone may think of me, but because of how I feel when I'm sewing with it. That's the feeling I want to pass on to my quilting sisters!

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