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    Lightbulb just had a realization about my sewing machine

    My sewing machine had been making a funny sound all of a sudden. I changed the needle, re-threaded it, dusted it with no avail. I left a message for my sewing machine repair guy to call me. Since his mother is in the hospital I could not reach him this weekend. So today I had a light bulb moment. I bought more gutterman thread. I changed the needle again and this time the thread as well. Now she purrs like a kitten. So the thing I learned about my machine is that she does not like coats and clark thread. Bad thing is that I have a lot of coats and clark. I checking the thread weight on the coats and clark. However the weight is not listed on what I have, except for the spool that was on it. It is 35 weight and the gutterman cotton that I am using is 50 weight. So my question is this, Is the higher the number the lighter the thread? Because that is what it feels like to me. And no, the 35 weight is not hand quilting thread, I checked that first. So I guess you could say that my machine has expensive taste in thread LOL.
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    You are right, the higher the number the finer the thread is! Too bad that your machine doesn't like C&C. And I am really glad that mine does!!! I am a tried and true C&C Dual Duty XP user and rarely use anything else. Glad you could figure out what was wrong with your machine before having to shell out some cash to have you SMG look at it!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by auntpiggylpn View Post
    You are right, the higher the number the finer the thread is! Too bad that your machine doesn't like C&C. And I am really glad that mine does!!! I am a tried and true C&C Dual Duty XP user and rarely use anything else. Glad you could figure out what was wrong with your machine before having to shell out some cash to have you SMG look at it!!!
    I like coats and clark as well. I have always used it. However my machine seems to not like it. I guess I need to figure out where to look on their spools for the weight of the thread. Could you help with this?
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    Is this a new machine? If not maybe it's just this spool..If you like coats and clark b4 and used it

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    I used Coates and Clark thread in my Singer and it worked perfectly fine. Then I bought a Pfaff. An expensive machine likes expensive thread. I can't use anything less then 50 wt thread in it. I've been buyuing my thread at Connecting Threads and it seems to be a perfect combination with the machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chamby View Post
    I like coats and clark as well. I have always used it. However my machine seems to not like it. I guess I need to figure out where to look on their spools for the weight of the thread. Could you help with this?

    I can't find the weight on my spools either. I don't know if it is printed on the display at the stores or not but here is a table that I got from C&C website . I know that C&C also uses a color coded system on their displays to differentiate between their different types of thread.
    http://www.coatsandclark.com/Crafts/...hread+Size.htm

    Here is a link to a table that gives the different specifications for their threads. http://www.coatsandclark.com/NR/rdon...dWtsByType.pdf
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    I have a few machines like that . My older (vintage) babies will sew with anything....but put some C & C near any of the newer ones and they'll start making one heck of a ruckus.
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    That is a very thick thread and too thick for piecing as it takes a large size needle. I have no problem with C&C thread as long as I use the right size needle for the wt of the thread. One thread I recently found that I really like for piecing is DMC cotton embroidery thread. It's a 50wt 2 ply and it sews like Aurifil and Guttermann.
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    You didn't say if you were quilting or piecing. That weight thread wouldn't normally be used for piecing quilting cotton, but quilting with it is okay. You didn't say how the tension was either. Perhaps the other C +C thread will be fine. I bet it is also 50 wt. I'd try the others before giving up with them.
    i have also heard how different colors can affect the thread as well. Something to do with the amount of dye required can make it thicker. That could affect tension, so why not cause other problems.

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    if it doesn't like to be used as the top thread, you can always use it in the bobbin

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    Quote Originally Posted by gayle bong View Post
    You didn't say if you were quilting or piecing. That weight thread wouldn't normally be used for piecing quilting cotton, but quilting with it is okay. You didn't say how the tension was either. Perhaps the other C +C thread will be fine. I bet it is also 50 wt. I'd try the others before giving up with them.
    i have also heard how different colors can affect the thread as well. Something to do with the amount of dye required can make it thicker. That could affect tension, so why not cause other problems.
    Yes my machine is a newer machine. I had been using the gutterman. I ran out and just used the c&c that I had on hand. Did not really think anything about it. Then I began to notice the noise and funny sound. I thought oh no something wrong with my machine. I also noticed that the thread was pulling tight. I have an automatic tension on my machine. I tried changing this but did not make that much difference. And yes I am piecing a quilt at this time. After trying everything else I thought well go back to the thread that I was using. Behold that was the problem. I also have an older Sears kenmore machine. That machine has no problem with the C&C. I looked at the table of weights for C&C. Wow it seems that all of their threads are heavier threads. Just now noticing the weight of threads. I really had not paid attention to this in past. So I guess I need to research and study about thread weights more closely.
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    My Viking and Brothers all like C&C but not Connecting Threads (breaks easy and has too much lint also thicker)

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    I find that some threads snag in the machine, and I try and put them to one side for hand sewing.
    I suppose that thread is the engine oil to a machine!

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    I find C&C to be "lintier" than the other threads. It is also "lumpier". My Vikings don't like C&C either. I also find that C&C weakens over time, and breaks easily. If I am going to be making a quilt that hopefully will be an "heirloom" I want to use the best quality products I can afford. Therefore I will use a high quality thread such as Gutermann, YLI or one of the other better quality threads.

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    No matter what thread brand one uses, one also must match the needle to the thread. If the needle is too small for the size of thread that will also cause problems. I only use topstitch needles, matching my thread size to needle size and my Horizon will accomodate any thread.

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    If you are using c&c #35 thread it is probably quilting, top stitch, or buttonhole thread. You could have alo picked up a spool of hand quilting thread, which is TERRIBLE for your machine. It has a coating on it to make it easier to hand quilt, but gums up your machine. The other, larger threads will be ok in your machines, you just need a larger needle with a larger eye, and perhaps an adjustment to top tension.

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    I had a problem with gutterman (my favorite) for a small time. Kept balling up in the needle making a mess so I changed the needle and haven't had a problem. I wouldn't give up on your regular thread just give it a little bit and sneak it in on the machine. Sometimes there could be a little machine cranky problem (MCP) and it just wants to be tempermental.
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    When I worked in a quilt shop a few years back, we sold Husqvarna Viking machines and were told by the rep. that European made machines need to use European made threads because of the way the threads are twisted and dyed mwhich is the oposite (the twist) from the American made threads. The European made machines are designed to specifically take European made threads. I use Gutermann, RA, Mettler,Sulky, and some others that don't come to mind right now. My FW will use most anything..bless her sweet little heart! You can have the same problem with needles...I use Klasse' and Schmetz in my HV machines and my Janome and Singer in my Singer machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craftychick View Post
    I used Coates and Clark thread in my Singer and it worked perfectly fine. Then I bought a Pfaff. An expensive machine likes expensive thread. I can't use anything less then 50 wt thread in it. I've been buyuing my thread at Connecting Threads and it seems to be a perfect combination with the machine.
    Crafty, thanks for the info on this. I just bought a Pfaff and wondered about the thread.

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    I've used quite a bit of C&C in the last 50+ years. Lately I have found Dual Duty XP to be somewhat inconsistent in thickness. When I get a consistent spool my Pfaff likes it just fine. When I have problems is when I find the treat thickness changing from thinner to thicker and back again.
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    For two years I had problems with my Bernina until I bought a cone of Gutermann thread. Then, all my problems vanished. It was the thread all along. And I think my machine likes cones, also. So, I have tons of varigated thread (which my machine hates) and all other expensive thread that I can't use, but it's fine by me as long as my sewing machine is running smoothly finely.
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    I have a Janome 6600 which despises my Gutermann thread. It will clog up and make huge birds nests over and over again. I took it into the shop about 2 dozen times when I first bought it. We finally just decided nothing was wrong with the machine, it's just very picky about thread. I've had to change to Aurifil. I have so many spools of Gutermann, so I just use those on my Featherweights.
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    My Janome doesn't like Janome thread. That's strange because it's a Janome machine. Oh well! At least it likes C&C for embroidering.

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    My Viking Husqvarna doesn't like C&C so I use G too! Gave away all of my C&C years ago and then I got a couple of vintage machines - they like C&C just fine so I'm back to using it in them. Still have to buy G for the picky Viking but I only buy it when it's half off at JoAnn's! But then, I only buy the C&C when it's half off too...... :-)
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    Lately i've been using C&C poly on poly thread in my bobbin. I must use it up and so far its' working well.

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