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    Long(er) Arms

    I know this subject comes up all the time. I searched it and here's what I found:
    Bailey 13 $1,599.00
    Bailey 15 $1,899.00
    Sunshine 16 $1,750.00
    WOW 16 $1,899.00
    HQ Sweet Sixteen $5,195.00
    Voyager 17 $2,400.00
    Bailey 17 $2,499.00
    WOW 18 $3,099.00
    Homesteader 19 $2,695.00
    George 20 $6,400.00

    I have 7.5 inches on my domestic. I see no point what so ever to upgrade to 9-10 inches. But it seems like there is a huge jump to 9 inches then again to 13 inches then they creep a little slower. However, I know there will be a lot of people suggesting machines with 9-10 inch arm. I'm looking for a sit-down machine, so this list is concentrated on ones I believe are sit down (and frames).

    Did I miss any? I didn't include any that I couldn't find a price online.

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    Innova has a new sit down machine. Go to their website and take a look.

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    The Voyager is not normally a sit down machine and it has been discontinued, I believe, at least as it was originally sold since Hinterberg has merged with Nolting. There was also a Weekender 10" machine and I believe a Quilting Bee or something similarly named. Definitely check at the Nolting web-site.

    I have never seen the WOW as a sit down machine but the makers of the WOW quilter will stretch the Juki/Brother/Janome/Pfaff/Babylock 9" straight stitch only machines to 18".

    The Janome Horizon 7700 is an 11" domestic machine and was being sold brand new for $2,000 when it was first released. I don't know if the price has gone up or down since then.

    The ABM Innova may be able to be adapted to sitdown sewing. And the Crown Jewel by Babylock, possibly. I believe I also saw the Tin Lizzie setup to be in a table however they call it a Queen Quilter in that setup. Since the Viking MegaQuilter 18 x 8 is the same machine, it could theoretically be set in a table, also.

    There was a post a day or so ago about a Juki 8700 industrial machine that is being marketed at quilters. I believe the price on it was around $2,200 setup.

    Nustyle is another one I can think of off the top of my head. They are sold by a store in Stover, Missouri or in that area.

    There are also older/discontinued/home-made machines that are in the 10-16" range. You may stumble across those in your research. DAQ (Design-A-Quilt) had an interesting history, Versaquilter made a bright yellow Tweety Bird and a Purple Monster.

    KenQuilt is still around although I believe they recently merged with another company.
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    Wow, Beverly! You really know your machines!! Is this the same Juki? http://www.sewingmachinesplus.com/se...FQbznAod_VUwXg If so, I'm buying one tonight!!!

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    I think I heard somewhere that the feed dogs don't drop in those industrial machines. Might be wise to call before you buy to make sure. Thank you for all that great information you and Beverly posted previously! I've been trying to get that kind of information for ages!
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    I'm trying to get all the information together in one place on the board! I have a spreadsheet that keeps growing!



    Quote Originally Posted by virtualbernie View Post
    I think I heard somewhere that the feed dogs don't drop in those industrial machines. Might be wise to call before you buy to make sure. Thank you for all that great information you and Beverly posted previously! I've been trying to get that kind of information for ages!

    From what I've read if you're using an industrial for machine quilting only, remove the dogs!

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    This information helps me to know how much I need to save for! I knew I couldn't afford a $30,000+ setup but the ones in your post are attainable! Thanks again!

    Re feedogs: DUH!!!!!!!!!! lol!
    Bernie

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    Quote Originally Posted by virtualbernie View Post
    This information helps me to know how much I need to save for! I knew I couldn't afford a $30,000+ setup but the ones in your post are attainable! Thanks again!

    Re feedogs: DUH!!!!!!!!!! lol!
    I'm such a nerd, I even put a column on my spread sheet that tells price per inch... I figure if you're paying for extra inches, that's the best way to figure your best deal!

    The Sunshine 16 is the cheapest at $109.38/inch, BTW lol

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    You know, in one of her videos, even Leah Day hinted to the powers that be that it would be wonderful to have just a regular domestic machine with a long(er) arm. Wonder if anyone listens?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AshleyR View Post
    Wow, Beverly! You really know your machines!! Is this the same Juki? http://www.sewingmachinesplus.com/se...FQbznAod_VUwXg If so, I'm buying one tonight!!!
    NO..this is an industrial machine...made to go like H*** and not slow down.....

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    Ok, here's my crazy idea. Could someone stretch their own machine.. if they had half of a clue of what they were doing? I know they stretch motorcycles for a few hundred bucks... wouldn't stretching a little sewing machine be easier?! I have an old Singer 206 that I'd be willing to let someone experiment on... if someone could add 5-6 inches to it... I think I'd be happy!

    Quote Originally Posted by virtualbernie View Post
    You know, in one of her videos, even Leah Day hinted to the powers that be that it would be wonderful to have just a regular domestic machine with a long(er) arm. Wonder if anyone listens?

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    AshleyR, there is a fella that stretches machines. It is the WOW and if I remember correctly his name is Rick. Also, there is a waiting list and the last time I saw a post about it they were waiting about 6 months...

    Also, Billy on this forum (vintage machines) Lostn51 is his forum name has instructions to stretch machines. My DH wants to try one and he has a machine waiting for him to get busy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoyoteQuilts View Post

    Also, Billy on this forum (vintage machines) Lostn51 is his forum name has instructions to stretch machines. My DH wants to try one and he has a machine waiting for him to get busy....
    Do you happen to know where that post is? I searched for it and can't find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace View Post
    Innova has a new sit down machine. Go to their website and take a look.
    Wow the new Innova machine is beautiful, but not cheap. $5995 and with stitch regulation $6995.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhansen6 View Post
    Wow the new Innova machine is beautiful, but not cheap. $5995 and with stitch regulation $6995.
    It's less than the George.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhansen6 View Post
    Wow the new Innova machine is beautiful, but not cheap. $5995 and with stitch regulation $6995.
    I couldn't find that one. The cheapest machine I saw is 18" for $9k

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshleyR View Post
    I couldn't find that one. The cheapest machine I saw is 18" for $9k
    Weird, it's not easy to find any more. Here's a video on it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBxT49mFsTQ

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    I have a Janome Horizon 7700 with an 11 inch throat. I love it! Works really well for FMQ and it also fits perfectly on my Grace frame for larger projects. I got it for Christmas and my husband paid $2500 for it, but I think they've gone up now to $3,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AshleyR View Post
    I couldn't find that one. The cheapest machine I saw is 18" for $9k
    And that is NOT a sitdown machine. That 9K includes the frame.

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    http://www.innovalongarm.com/new_pro...vaSitDown3.jpg

    Here's a link to the innova sit-down machine. I haven't tried it but I love my Innova 26
    The Potomac Quilter
    Innova 26 with Lightning Stitch and Autopilot

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    The HQ 16 sitdown model is great. I know of several people who have already traded up ... so there are some used models out there in great condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshleyR View Post
    Wow, Beverly! You really know your machines!! Is this the same Juki? http://www.sewingmachinesplus.com/se...FQbznAod_VUwXg If so, I'm buying one tonight!!!
    I don't know. I saw a web-site somewhere about that model that said they were packaging it up for an in the table quilting machine with foot pedal but it wasn't clear if they were really talking about that model or a different one. I would definitely call one of the shops that sell it and ask.

    5,000 rpm really isn't out of the range for the more industrial type sewing/quilting heads. My Voyager will go that fast at it's top speed but I never crank it up that high. I can see how someone with lots of experience and simply doing a meander would be able to manage it at that speed though and I can see how someone like Diane Gaudinski could use it at that speed while doing meanders on a sit-down version. My domestic machine will do 1,500 rpm and when you're just sewing long straight lines--it seems slow. My older and as far as I know most domestic machines will only do 700 to 900 rpms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by virtualbernie View Post
    I think I heard somewhere that the feed dogs don't drop in those industrial machines. Might be wise to call before you buy to make sure. Thank you for all that great information you and Beverly posted previously! I've been trying to get that kind of information for ages!
    Machines made specifically for quilting don't have feed dogs. In the 9" straight-stitch only machines which are "semi-industrial", I know the Janome 1600p did not "drop" the feed dogs--it came with a cover plate.

    I lusted after a mid-arm for 3 years before I stumbled across a deal on ebay. I was a complete nerd about it also and had the spread sheet and all my pros & cons of each model. My Voyager is NOT the machine I lusted after but I couldn't pass up the chance and I don't regret it.

    ABM Innova was a new player in the hobby/home quilter market when I bought my setup but folks were raving about it. ABM made commercial quilting machines before dipping in the hobby quilter market.

    Is Babylock still selling the Crown Jewel? There was also a Crystal Quilter but I can't remember who was selling it.

    I just notice Nolting's FunQuilter isn't on your list. That has been an extremely popular beginner level mid-arm for a long, long time. It was one that I was really lusting after. The 19" Indigo is also missing.

    There were 2 yahoo all-makes machine quilting groups that I lurked on for years. I think that's where I got my first spread sheet and just added to it as new machines were added to it.

    I just remembered the B-Line 18 for the Canadian's among us. http://www.tobequilting.com I think it is still being made although I have heard through their yahoo group that the wife of the maker has been very ill. They started out with very nice wood quilting frames--a table top model and a free-standing one. I bought & learned on the free standing one when I made my first foray into quilting my own tops. Jorst later branched out and stretched a Janome (I think) into the B-Line 18 and made a special hopping foot that the Voyager owners were going crazy over.
    Beverly

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    I have a sweet sixteen & with the table it was only $3.000.00
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    i didn't see the tin lizzie 18 sit down quilter listed. i forgot how much my lqs said the price was.

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