Which Machine is better (according to everyone here)
#11
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Tia - what do you intend to USE this new machine for ? I am guessing the Tiptronic has a variety of zigzag type patterns, and the Juki is straight stitch... so what you would like to DO with the machine would be a deciding factor I guess....
#12
Originally Posted by taiboo
Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
I have had both a Juki TL98Q and a Pfaff 2030. I sold the Juki and I still have the Pfaff. I bought a Janome 6600 to go along with the Pfaff.
It's a nice enough machine but it's straight stitch only.
#13
Originally Posted by Sheepshed
Tia - what do you intend to USE this new machine for ? I am guessing the Tiptronic has a variety of zigzag type patterns, and the Juki is straight stitch... so what you would like to DO with the machine would be a deciding factor I guess....
#14
Originally Posted by taiboo
Originally Posted by Sheepshed
Tia - what do you intend to USE this new machine for ? I am guessing the Tiptronic has a variety of zigzag type patterns, and the Juki is straight stitch... so what you would like to DO with the machine would be a deciding factor I guess....
#15
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With the Juki on a frame, you could do up to a queen quilt, but you would start out with 6 1/2 inches quilting space and by the end maybe 1 1/2 to 2 inches, so a large pattern wouldn't be possible. I bought mine used to learn and see if I would like that type of quilting. So far I have done only practice quilts tops, but I am liking it. Mine has been outfitted with a cruise control (stitch regulator) and a laser light so I can put a pantograph on the frames little shelf to follow the design. Course you have to get the smaller designs (about 4" ) I believe the Juki is considered a "short arm" quilter and have also seen it referred to as a mid-arm.
Here is some info on it from Juki:
http://www.juki.com/JusHome/sections/TL-98Q.html
Here is some info on it from Juki:
http://www.juki.com/JusHome/sections/TL-98Q.html
#16
Originally Posted by nursie76
With the Juki on a frame, you could do up to a queen quilt, but you would start out with 6 1/2 inches quilting space and by the end maybe 1 1/2 to 2 inches, so a large pattern wouldn't be possible. I bought mine used to learn and see if I would like that type of quilting. So far I have done only practice quilts tops, but I am liking it. Mine has been outfitted with a cruise control (stitch regulator) and a laser light so I can put a pantograph on the frames little shelf to follow the design. Course you have to get the smaller designs (about 4" ) I believe the Juki is considered a "short arm" quilter and have also seen it referred to as a mid-arm.
Here is some info on it from Juki:
http://www.juki.com/JusHome/sections/TL-98Q.html
Here is some info on it from Juki:
http://www.juki.com/JusHome/sections/TL-98Q.html
#17
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Sorry, I will try again....hmmm....ok
I wanted to see if I could even begin to do long arm quilting type quilting. That means on a frame, the machine mounted on a carriage or moving platform and then guided by handles. Looks like this: http://www.newjoyquilting.com/gold_standard.html
It is different because you are not sitting in front of the machine, but standing or sitting at the needle end. Then you load the quilt back, top and batting on rollers (see pic) then you have the area between the rollers to quilt in. You work on that area and advance the quilt. The take up roller is in the throat area of the machine so as the quilt wraps around it, it gets fatter and the area in the throat gets filled. The bigger the roll in the throat, the less room you have to move the needle forward on the un-quilted part of the quilt. So by the time you get to the end of the quilt, there is not as much room to maneuver.
There are paper quilting outline patterns on long strips of paper...pantographs (a long linear quilting design). If you look at the pic on the link there is a shelf over the frame. You place the long paper pattern on it, and that gold arm you see in the pic holds a laser light so you can guide the machine while keeping the red laser light on the lines on the pattern. I haven't tried that yet.
The frames can be kinda expensive, but there are many different types out there.
I hope this makes a little more sense. If I can answer any more questions, feel free to PM me.
I wanted to see if I could even begin to do long arm quilting type quilting. That means on a frame, the machine mounted on a carriage or moving platform and then guided by handles. Looks like this: http://www.newjoyquilting.com/gold_standard.html
It is different because you are not sitting in front of the machine, but standing or sitting at the needle end. Then you load the quilt back, top and batting on rollers (see pic) then you have the area between the rollers to quilt in. You work on that area and advance the quilt. The take up roller is in the throat area of the machine so as the quilt wraps around it, it gets fatter and the area in the throat gets filled. The bigger the roll in the throat, the less room you have to move the needle forward on the un-quilted part of the quilt. So by the time you get to the end of the quilt, there is not as much room to maneuver.
There are paper quilting outline patterns on long strips of paper...pantographs (a long linear quilting design). If you look at the pic on the link there is a shelf over the frame. You place the long paper pattern on it, and that gold arm you see in the pic holds a laser light so you can guide the machine while keeping the red laser light on the lines on the pattern. I haven't tried that yet.
The frames can be kinda expensive, but there are many different types out there.
I hope this makes a little more sense. If I can answer any more questions, feel free to PM me.
#18
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Not sure that I would compare those two because the Pfaff is a regular sewing machine with a respectable set of stitches. Not sure if it has the built-in walking foot but it does have a regular throat opening. The Juki has a large throat but it only does straight stitch - very fast. So do you need to/want to sew zigzag or blanket stitch? Then there's your answer.
#19
I have two machines that do that already, so i guess my answer is becoming clear LOL
Originally Posted by MadQuilter
Not sure that I would compare those two because the Pfaff is a regular sewing machine with a respectable set of stitches. Not sure if it has the built-in walking foot but it does have a regular throat opening. The Juki has a large throat but it only does straight stitch - very fast. So do you need to/want to sew zigzag or blanket stitch? Then there's your answer.
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