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Thread: Oversight leads to improved FMQ on DSM

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    Oversight leads to improved FMQ on DSM

    Learned something new about my Singer the other day. Got myself set up for FMQ. I changed the needle and switched to my darning foot and commenced to quilting. I noticed that I wasn't having the eyelashing and tension problems that I normally pull my hair out about and figured it must be the thread. Well, been using that same cone of thread for some time. When I ran out of bobbin thread I noticed my feed dogs were not down when I switched bobbins. I had been quilting the whole time with the feed dogs up!

    I have no idea why the machine still lets me smoothly FMQ, but needless to say those doggies are staying up! I hope it doesn't hurt the machine.
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    There are many people who FMQ with the feed dogs up. If you are have problems with them up, try them down and vice versa!
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    Thanks for posting this! I've been having issues with FMQ and will try leaving the feed dogs up to see if that helps.

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    I find that on some FMQ projects I have better results with the feed dogs up and other times it goes better with them down. Who knows???

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    Maybe look into one of the plates that covers the feed dogs.

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    I haven't done much FMQ but, on practice pieces, I find that my FMQ is better with the feed dogs up.
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    I had an old kenmore that had 2 settings for feed dogs. Not sure why but I had to click twice to get them out of the way. Maybe 1/2 way is what would be needed for FMQ! ?
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    I just did the same thing last week. I put my supreme slider on the bed of my machine and my hopping foot. I went to town on a wall hanging. Stitches were great; not a single eyelash! When I was finished, I realized that I hadn't put my feed dogs down or turned my stitch length to zero! I'm going to try it again soon to make sure that it wasn't just all the stars and planets in perfect alignment that day!
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    Maybe it has something to do with the fabric. Who knows. Do you realize what this means!!! All of this time, I had been thinking I couldn't FMQ because my machine's feed dogs wouldn't lower. I could have been doing it all along. Geezzzz!
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    At one time, I also found my fmq was better with the feed dogs up. Now I still don't lower them, I just set my stitch length to zero, so while they are up, the do not move. But I have done it all three ways (feed dogs up and moving, feed dogs lowered and feed dogs up but not moving) with good results all around. Just find what works for you (and your machine) and go have some fmq'ing fun!

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    I leave FD up and stitch length at zero which works great.
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    My friend just showed me how he FMQ with her feeddogs up. I will have to try it.

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    If I use the darning foot to darn, I don't put the feed dogs down so I don't think it would harm your machine to FMQ that way. As long as you can move the quilt sandwich smoothly with them up, go for it!

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    Boy, I'm going to be trying this. I can't drop my feed dogs so assumed FMQ was not in mu future.
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    I have a singer also and it works great with the dogs up, I have played with the stitch length from 0 to3 I have not desided what is best I do use a supreme slider to cover and it works great!
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    Not saying I'm expert, but I tend to leave the feed teeth up also with fairly good results. I have a Viking Rose, though, and it may vary from machine to machine.

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    I have done both and find I generally like the feed dogs down - but occasionally I leave them up. Whatever works best on my practice sandwich of the fabrics I'm using in my quilt.

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    I'm fairly sure Leah Day leaves those doggies up and she does the most wonderful FMQ.
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    I did attempt to FMQ with the dogs up - when I first started and I nearly burned out my sewing machine motor! LOL* I think if it works for you wonderful - but I can tell you those eyelash issues are merely minor tension adjustments that are very small and simple to fix, I would love to help you with that if you would like me to!! Your top tension does need a little tinkering with depending on the thread type, weight and needle size you're using...but it's very minor and once it's adjusted you won't have those issues anymore with your feed dogs down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pumpkinpatchquilter View Post
    I did attempt to FMQ with the dogs up - when I first started and I nearly burned out my sewing machine motor! LOL*
    I hear ya! Didn't happen to me, but I have heard this before. The answer is to keep the feed dogs up, but put your stitch length at zero, that way the feed dogs do not move.

    Leah Day does this (for those who follow her blog) and she swears by leaving them up (stitch length set at zero) because she believes the machine was made to work with the feed dogs in the up position better than when they are down. My experience on my machine backs this up, but each machine is different. So just play around and do what works for you!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knitette View Post
    I'm fairly sure Leah Day leaves those doggies up and she does the most wonderful FMQ.
    She does leave them up, so I followed her recomendations with the foot and the dogs up, and I have never had a problem.
    It does dent your 'Slider" a little if you are using one. If you have a single hole plate, that helps, too.

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    Leah Day keeps her feed dogs up ... like you, she discovered it by accident.
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    The purpose of FMQ is for the sewer to be "free" to do the motion instead of motion being controled by the machine. By lowering the feed dogs and using the FMQ foot the sewer is in control of the quilting. Many times the eyelashes/loops are caused by the sewer's speed of moving the fabric. By leaving the feed dogs up they put a little drag on the fabric therefore slowing down the movement of the fabric. this slower speed may be preventing the eyelashes/loops. The drag on the fabric actually prevents the fabric from moving "freely" and may make you FMQ harder. Also if you are using a slider then why leave the feed dogs up since covering them will stop them from grabbing the fabric. as for damaging the machine? not sure but it can not be the best thing for it since you are working against the feed dogs. There may be a good reason that lowering the feed dogs is recommended. IMHO
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    I leave the feed dogs up, use 0 stitch length, and use a super slider on the throat plate. It works well for FMQ for me.

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    I had the exact same "accident"! Now I always leave my feed dogs up.
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