Please "Help with Batik"
#22
http://www.prochemicalanddye.com/store/home.php?cat=323
Read about Retayne and Synthapol. It is somewhat confusing.
Retayne
Use Retayne before you cut and piece your quilt or garment.
Color fixative for commercially dyed cotton, linen, and rayon fabric that bleeds.
Use it in your washing machine or by hand washing with hot water.
Test fabric before washing it for the first time.
Only one application is necessary.
When to use Retayne
Test your fabric before treating it with Retayne.
Dampen a small square of 100% cotton white muslin.
Place it on top of the colored fabric to be tested.
Iron the fabrics with a hot iron until dry.
Inspect the muslin and if there is any transfer of color, then treat your fabric with Retayne.
Synthrapol
Will remove excess dye from hand dyed fabrics.
Will remove sizing from fabric before dyeing.
Use in the dye bath for even color.
A concentrated wetting agent, known as a surfactant.
When to use Synthrapol
To wash hand dyed fabrics before using them in a garment or quilt.
When fabric is already quilted and bleeds into adjacent fabric.
To soak fabric before dyeing.
Read about Retayne and Synthapol. It is somewhat confusing.
Retayne
Use Retayne before you cut and piece your quilt or garment.
Color fixative for commercially dyed cotton, linen, and rayon fabric that bleeds.
Use it in your washing machine or by hand washing with hot water.
Test fabric before washing it for the first time.
Only one application is necessary.
When to use Retayne
Test your fabric before treating it with Retayne.
Dampen a small square of 100% cotton white muslin.
Place it on top of the colored fabric to be tested.
Iron the fabrics with a hot iron until dry.
Inspect the muslin and if there is any transfer of color, then treat your fabric with Retayne.
Synthrapol
Will remove excess dye from hand dyed fabrics.
Will remove sizing from fabric before dyeing.
Use in the dye bath for even color.
A concentrated wetting agent, known as a surfactant.
When to use Synthrapol
To wash hand dyed fabrics before using them in a garment or quilt.
When fabric is already quilted and bleeds into adjacent fabric.
To soak fabric before dyeing.
#23
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Join Date: Apr 2011
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I have done a lot of sewing with Batiks. I have rarely had bleeding problems. Of course the exception was a red and white quilt which in now pink and white. :( I always prewash my fabric. I have tried the vinegar etc tricks trying to do it the homemade and cheaper way. No more for me. It is Retayne all the way. I have used it on those dark jeans that make you hands turn blue and indigos. It sure does the trick.
What I really want to say is don't avoid using batiks because some bleed. It just too beautiful!! I hope that you get your problem solved!
What I really want to say is don't avoid using batiks because some bleed. It just too beautiful!! I hope that you get your problem solved!
#24
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Enid, OK
Posts: 8,273
Originally Posted by Chele
Follow common sense laundering practices with fabric too. Cold water for darks, warm for lights. It never hurts to add a color catcher. If you have a bleeder, you might try salt or vinegar to set the color. It's less expensive and chemical-ey. Read the MSDA on that Retayne: http://www.prochemical.com/MaterialS...es/Retayne.pdf Eek! Is that what's in those color catchers? I never wear my safety goggles!
It clearly states there are NO carcinogens..do you know that the fabric you buy has 37 known carcinogens sprayed on it just to get it into this country???
USE retayne with the same precautions you use with any soap/detergent!
#25
Originally Posted by BrendaK
... I have heard that Batiks bleed. .... Thank You Brendak
Many fabrics that will bleed will also crock (to give off coloring matter: said of dyed fabric). Rub the fabric with a small scrap of white fabric or paper. If any color "crocks" onto the scrap, then the fabric will bleed. This is how I knew before hand that my red batik would bleed. I liked that fabric so much that I purchased it anyway.
#26
Originally Posted by janeknapp
http://www.prochemicalanddye.com/store/home.php?cat=323
Read about Retayne and Synthapol. It is somewhat confusing.
...
Read about Retayne and Synthapol. It is somewhat confusing.
...
#27
Originally Posted by Lori S
Yes it must be washed in cold water, anything warmer will remove the Retayne. Sorry ,... I know this is not the answer you wanted to hear , but....
But , I wash all of my laundry that has any colors in cold water! Only the whites get warm or hot water.
But , I wash all of my laundry that has any colors in cold water! Only the whites get warm or hot water.
#28
I am a fabric dyer. I never use the dye catchers. I use a tsp of Synthropol liquid soap. I wash dyed fabrics and batiks in hot. When the water comes through the hose and out of the washing machine, I have a small basin to catch some of the water to see how dark it is. When I am on what I consider the last wash/rinse, I throw in an old white sock to see what it looks like at the end. Naturally, reds will tend to bleed more. Most high end quilt shops sell Synthropol and you can get it online.
#29
Originally Posted by feline fanatic
I would try using Retayne which is a dye fixative. You can find it on line and some quilt shops carry it.
http://www.pburch.net/dyeing/FAQ/fixative.shtml
#30
Honestly people, just because a fabric bleeds does NOT mean it's a big problem!!! Throw a color catcher in any load of dark clothes and it'll very likely come out dark. The problem is when another fabric picks that loose dye up out of the wash. And even then if it's not set in the original fabric it will not be set in whatever picks it up unless you do something chemically to set it.
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