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Old 09-07-2015, 05:52 AM
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Can I sell quilts I have made from precut quilt kits?
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Old 09-07-2015, 06:27 AM
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I don't know why you couldn't . You made it, it's your quilt to do whatever you want with it.
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Old 09-07-2015, 07:03 AM
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You can sell any quilt you own, as long as you're not mass producing them.
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Old 09-07-2015, 09:16 AM
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I would check 3 things:
(1) that the fabric selvage does not say "for personal use only"
(2) that the pattern does not say "for personal use only"
(3) that the design itself does not have the copyright symbol (check by any photos or the back of packaging)

It used to be mainly the novelty prints that were not supposed to be used in quilts we sell, but the other day I actually saw a stripe fabric I had in my stash that said "for personal use only". I couldn't believe it. How can someone claim a wiggly stripe as an original design?!!! Still, it's not worth the headache to me to have to worry about lawsuits.

For fabrics that don't come with a selvage, I do my best to act on the information I have. I check whatever selvages were attached. I use common sense that if it has a Disney or storybook character on the fabric, that's almost certainly copyrighted. I know inadvertently missing a fabric copyright somewhere is part of the risk of doing business so I make sure to carry proper insurance and I have a great attorney that can hopefully keep my tiny business from going under in the event that my best efforts weren't enough.

I definitely wouldn't bother to sell anything that has a copyright or patent labeled right on the packaging, quilt photo or pattern without first contacting the designer. International law gives designers an automatic copyright of our designs for our life + 70 years. That has nothing to do with whether or not a pattern exists. If I go out and sketch a quilt design of my imaginary puppy sitting under a double rainbow next to a pot of gold, that design is mine & I retain all rights to that design. No one else is allowed to turn it into a pattern, copy the design or most of the design (at any size) into their own quilt for personal or commercial use, or copy the design in another media like painting or printmaking without my express permission (usually I'd want some kind of money for that, but if I'm in a generous mood I might give it away for free). I can decide whether other people are only allowed to copy the design for personal use, for limited commercial use, for media other than quiltmaking, or for patterns (with or without the "for personal use only" logo). That automatic copyright allows designers to receive appropriate compensation for our design time.

Many smaller designers will grant you written permission to make a small number of quilts from their design provided you bought the pattern & plan to make the quilt yourself start to finish. I always write them if nothing is indicated on the pattern itself (it usually isn't, but I do know one designer who writes her permissions on her patterns). If it's a design of purely on traditional blocks with basic solids for fabrics, then you have nothing to worry about. There is no copyright given to people who simply cut fabrics.

Of course, all of this is just what I do. There are people out there on the internet that will insist I am wrong & perhaps I am ... it just seems like a huge risk to me to take without a guarantee I won't spend years tied up in a legal process I have neither the patience nor desire to battle, not to mention the time and money.

Either way, good luck & happy quilting!
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Old 09-07-2015, 09:29 AM
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Easiest way to be sure is email the designer & ask permission. Most will happily grant it ( in writing, save the response) . also depends on how you plan to sell it, if locally to someone ( privately, no one's going to know except the parties involved, if however you plan to use the internet/ or social media to offer it for sale get permission!
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Old 09-07-2015, 10:36 AM
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Yes you can. No permission required. List the quilt as made from a kit from_______ designed by__________ ,if known.
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Old 09-07-2015, 11:05 AM
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If I go out and sketch a quilt design of my imaginary puppy sitting under a double rainbow next to a pot of gold, that design is mine & I retain all rights to that design. No one else is allowed to turn it into a pattern, copy the design or most of the design (at any size) into their own quilt for personal or commercial use, or copy the design in another media like painting or printmaking without my express permission (usually I'd want some kind of money for that, but if I'm in a generous mood I might give it away for free). I can decide whether other people are only allowed to copy the design for personal use, for limited commercial use, for media other than quiltmaking, or for patterns (with or without the "for personal use only" logo). That automatic copyright allows designers to receive appropriate compensation for our design time.
Seems some designers wants everyone to buy the pattern or design and not do anything with it. I say no thanks. I haven't seen one that is that wonderful yet.
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Old 09-07-2015, 11:39 AM
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I agree. You should be able to sell the quilt. Just not in mass production.
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Originally Posted by Onebyone View Post
Seems some designers wants everyone to buy the pattern or design and not do anything with it. I say no thanks. I haven't seen one that is that wonderful yet.
I agree with that. I don't quite understand the whole "for personal use only" thing. If someone is making 1 or 2 to sell based on a pattern they bought, that seems reasonable to me. Someone who doesn't sew wouldn't have bought the pattern otherwise so it seems to me like a win-win. On the other hand, if someone buys a pattern of my design & then farms it out to a Chinese labor camp & makes 50,000 of them using low quality materials & labels them "designed by Bree" that would be a problem. For one, now my name is on junky, potentially dangerous quilts. Two, the manufacturer gets all that profit from my design work & I wasn't compensated.

I've yet to find a big pattern maker that will grant rights to sell even a single quilt (even for charity) based on one of their patterns. Fortunately, I have other choices. I'm hoping as more and more quilters refuse to buy fabric and patterns from designers that threaten to sue over even a single quilt that the tide will turn but maybe that's too much to hope for.
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Originally Posted by Onebyone View Post
Seems some designers wants everyone to buy the pattern or design and not do anything with it. I say no thanks. I haven't seen one that is that wonderful yet.
Unfortunately there are many pattern and fabric designers that do not truly understand copyright laws.
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