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quiltnut4ever 12-27-2012 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by IBQLTN (Post 5742659)
I always try to put as many designs as will fill the hoop when I embroidery. Will this work with FSL or should I reduce the number of designs I stitch?

I do too but on this evening I was too tired to move the design hence I would've had room for two more but yes you can with FSL as long as the size of the hoop can accomodate them without crowding it. :)

CanoePam 12-28-2012 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by IBQLTN (Post 5742659)
I always try to put as many designs as will fill the hoop when I embroidery. Will this work with FSL or should I reduce the number of designs I stitch?

A lot depends on just how big a hoops and how dense the FSL is. I have a multi needle machine with a 12x12 hoop. I once tried to fill it up with well over 100,000 stitches and found I have registration problems with the last few designs. The two layers of high quality, fabric-like WSS just couldn't support that many stitches. It was definitely a duh moment for me! The only type of stabilizer that can support that many stitches would be a heavy cut away. These days I generally cut a long piece of WSS and hoop one end of it, embroider with the smallest hoop needed, then rehoop the next design as close to the first as possible. I still save on stabilizer but I have no problems with registration of the design.

Pam
(a frequent lurker and embroiderer for many years who loves FSL)

MoJo 12-28-2012 08:58 AM

I love them and would like to make something like this. Is there a pattern somewhere for this??

cmw0829 12-31-2012 09:26 AM

I tried the FSL yesterday and was pretty pleased with the results. I used two layers of Sulky Solvy and a size 12 microtex needle. This provided better support than one layer. I used the size 12 needle since Embroidery Library recommended an 11 but I only had a 10 or 12. I think I'll try it again with Quilty Louise's suggestion of a 14 and one layer.

I was open to other stabilizers but - even though Joann's showed the Pellon in the store - they only had the Sulky.

Will keep experimenting.

Quiltnut, yours came out great.

Jratcliff 12-31-2012 10:09 AM

A previous post mentioned how important it is to learn all about stabilizers. I've been quilting for a lifetime but am pretty new to machine embroidery. My lQS is offering a class on ME and the first class is heavy on stabilizers. I'm thinking I will sign up for it. Definitely not expensive, and lots to learn. I've done every utube thing I can find on them, but I have a feeling the class will sink in a bit better.

On the FSL, I tried to do some while experimenting. I did some on mylar which I like, but the density of the stitching makes them very fragile, so I tried some on toile (I think that's what it is. super fine netting which is clear but with a little shimmer) and really like that. Especially since they were snowflakes. Did some just on WSS as well, but I kind of like the little shimmer in the flakes.

Needle information, please keep it coming. Thank all of you for contributing.

cmw0829 12-31-2012 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Jratcliff (Post 5752407)
A previous post mentioned how important it is to learn all about stabilizers. I've been quilting for a lifetime but am pretty new to machine embroidery. My lQS is offering a class on ME and the first class is heavy on stabilizers. I'm thinking I will sign up for it. Definitely not expensive, and lots to learn. I've done every utube thing I can find on them, but I have a feeling the class will sink in a bit better.

On the FSL, I tried to do some while experimenting. I did some on mylar which I like, but the density of the stitching makes them very fragile, so I tried some on toile (I think that's what it is. super fine netting which is clear but with a little shimmer) and really like that. Especially since they were snowflakes. Did some just on WSS as well, but I kind of like the little shimmer in the flakes.

Needle information, please keep it coming. Thank all of you for contributing.

I think it's so confusing until you start using them regularly. I have found that my foundering is less and less with every project. The classes usually let you touch and feel so you can get a sense of how they work and the result you get. That helps. The more you hear the message, the more it sinks in. But I still feel like such a stabilizer newbie and rally appreciate the input of our compadres.

TanyaL 12-31-2012 11:20 AM

I have been embroidering 3 years now and I know I am still a newby compared to others. Sometimes I go forever and everything is fine, then something I am doing has a pucker or even several puckers -especially when it is done on satin - and dang it! it has to go into the trash! I find that this embroidering is an expensive hobby. Getting it to look professional is very HARD to do.

Quilty-Louise 12-31-2012 12:20 PM

I use a MINIMUM of 2 layers, and have been known to use UP TO
5 layers depending on how dense the designs are.

As for the Pellon Wash N Gone is comes on the bolt, I just purchased
4 more yards it is normally $4.29 per yard (it has gone WAY up in price).
I used a 40% off coupon to get a better price for the stabilizer.
Last time I bought the Wash N Gone (before this last purchase) it was
a regular price of $1.99 and I caught it on sale for 50% off making the
cost .99 per yard.

At that rate I find spending $130 (regular cost) of the Floriani Wet n Gone
to be cheaper to buy for the 100 yard roll. It comes out to being about $1.30
per yard. Now if/when I can catch it while on sale I can sometimes get about
20-40% off that bringing the price down even further.

Not to mention a 100 foot roll (and is 15 inches wide) will last me a LONG time.




Here are a couple links to the Floriani information that I use in case anyone is
interested in tips and help about stabilizers.

Hope some of this information will be as helpful to you as it has been to me.
Even after 6+ years of embroidery I STILL go to this info for help.

I WILL admit that my LEAST favorite stabilizer to work with is ANYTHING that
is like the "Wet n Stick" I have made the mistake several times of trying to us
that on stuff like terry cloth and all I want to say on that is that it was NOT a
pretty sight to get it off. LOL

There is other info on the first link also.




Stabilizing Solutions

Stabilizing Workbook










Originally Posted by cmw0829 (Post 5752336)
I tried the FSL yesterday and was pretty pleased with the results. I used two layers of Sulky Solvy and a size 12 microtex needle. This provided better support than one layer. I used the size 12 needle since Embroidery Library recommended an 11 but I only had a 10 or 12. I think I'll try it again with Quilty Louise's suggestion of a 14 and one layer.

I was open to other stabilizers but - even though Joann's showellon in the store - they only had the Sulky.

Will keep experimenting.

Quiltnut, yours came out great.


quiltnut4ever 12-31-2012 01:16 PM

And you wonder why I call you the embroidery goddess! lol! Thank you for the info. I pm'd you with a question and will definitely look at these websites for help!

sewnsewer2 12-31-2012 03:04 PM

I use a size 11 for everything. The holes don't show as bad on cottons.


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