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Joeysnana 07-13-2010 04:54 AM

I don't understand the IDT feature on Pfaffs. The Integrated Dual Feed- is it a foot that should come with the machine? Is it like a walking foot?

maryb119 07-13-2010 04:59 AM

Yes, it's like a walking foot only smaller and built in. I love that feature in my Pfaff and use it for everything except embroidering. It does not come off the machine but you can disengage it if you want to. You can't go wrong with a Pfaff.

MISHNJIM 07-13-2010 05:02 AM

I like my Pfaff also....And so glad that it has that feature.

mhansen6 07-13-2010 06:29 AM

I just recently wore out my Pfaff I had for 25 years. So I looked at all the different machines out there and ended up buying another Pfaff. The Creative 4.0 I have had such good luck with the Pfaffs I have had, this is my 4th. The integrated dual feed is one of the features that Pfaff has and no other machine does. It is wonderful. It pulls the fabric evenly from top and bottom. I wouldn't sew without it.

Scissor Queen 07-13-2010 06:29 AM

I love mine! It's a built in walking foot but it's not like the clunky walking foot attachements for other machines. For the most part you hardly even know it's there.

wudbquilter 07-13-2010 06:43 AM

I have the 4.0 pfaff and just love the built in walking foot

sewgull 07-13-2010 07:52 AM

I have 2 Pfaffs. Love them both. Walking (IDF) is perfect for sewing more than one layer.

JanieW 07-13-2010 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Joeysnana
I don't understand the IDT feature on Pfaffs. The Integrated Dual Feed- is it a foot that should come with the machine? Is it like a walking foot?

It is engaged by pushing a lever like thingy that you click onto the feet that come with the machine. You use your regular feet and engage the IDT to get the same results that you would from using a walking foot .

Some of the feet do not have the opening on the back where the IDT lever would click onto so those feet are not to be used with IDT.

This shows the black lever thingy that you click onto the feet.

http://www.pfaffmachines.co.uk/pfaff-idt.htm

Joeysnana 07-13-2010 08:50 AM

Thanks everyone!! JanieW, the picture of the lever made it easier to understand. Thanks!

QBeth 07-13-2010 09:46 AM

My favorite LQS is also a Pfaff dealer. He told me that he has to order the machines with the IDT included so, it's possible there are Pfaffs out there without the IDT. Be sure to ask.

littlehud 07-13-2010 09:52 AM

Yes. Mine is just like a walking foot but is built in. I can tell when I don't have it engaged. It makes such a difference.

Kas 07-13-2010 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by mhansen6
I just recently wore out my Pfaff I had for 25 years. So I looked at all the different machines out there and ended up buying another Pfaff. The Creative 4.0 I have had such good luck with the Pfaffs I have had, this is my 4th. The integrated dual feed is one of the features that Pfaff has and no other machine does. It is wonderful. It pulls the fabric evenly from top and bottom. I wouldn't sew without it.

Actually the new Bernina 830 and 820 have it. I just wish they had added it before I got my 640. I used to have a Pfaff and really loved the IDF. But I fmq a lot and the lever for lifting the presser foot is in the back on the Bernina, not inside the throat of the machine. I was always catching it with my quilt an knocking it out of darning mode, darn it! So I don't miss that!

leaha 07-13-2010 10:22 AM

Only one of my Pfaff's does NOT have IDT, and it is my little Pfaff Hobbymatic 947, LOVE the IDT dule feed,and love, love, love, my Pfaff's!!!

mhansen6 07-13-2010 11:51 AM

Yes, the Berninas do have the IDF, but they are in a class all their own. The are SOOOOO expensive and large. I looked at them when I was looking for a new sewing machine. It was amazing, the lady demonstrating the machine couldn't get it to work. The automatic threading mechanism was broken and it was a brand new machine. I left there and drove straight to the Pfaff dealer. The Pfaff Creative 4.0 with the embroidery unit was half the price of the Bernina 830. These Berninas are brand new machines and I think after they work out all the bugs they will be wonderful, if you can afford them. Also they are so large and heavy you would need a very sturdy table to hold them. You wouldn't want to carry them to a quilting class.

JacquelineVH 07-13-2010 11:53 AM

I love my Pfaff!!!!

cinnamon 07-13-2010 03:25 PM

I to love my Pfaff.I also have a Brothers a New Home and a Janome.The Pfaff with its built in walking foot is the bast.

Ginaky 07-13-2010 04:05 PM

I have a 20 year old Pfaff 1473--I wouldn't take anything for it! I've even considered watching for a used one to replace this one when it's worn out. It was my second Pfaff and if I ever replace the one I'm using now, it will be with another one.

leaha 07-13-2010 04:37 PM

I so feel that way about my 7570 I just could not do without it!!!

wesing 07-13-2010 06:33 PM

We have two Pfaffs that we use for piecing. The IDT feature is awesome and makes accuracy so easy. We didn't really look at other machines when we found out none of them had a feature to compare. If we ever wear one of our machines out we will look for another Pfaff.

Darren

aurora41 07-13-2010 06:58 PM

I love my Pfaff, I had it since the 70s.

lovequilts 07-13-2010 07:25 PM

Love my Pfaff. One of the reasons I bought it was for the walking foot

lab fairy 07-13-2010 07:30 PM

I love the Pfaff for "real" sewing and have recently started quilting and the IDT is perfect. Now I'm spoiled and will always want this feature on my sewing machine. I don't understand why I would want a machine without it. Fortunately, my husband understands a quality machine is an extremely important issue. I've never regretted buying it.

Kas 07-13-2010 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by mhansen6
Yes, the Berninas do have the IDF, but they are in a class all their own. The are SOOOOO expensive and large. I looked at them when I was looking for a new sewing machine. It was amazing, the lady demonstrating the machine couldn't get it to work. The automatic threading mechanism was broken and it was a brand new machine. I left there and drove straight to the Pfaff dealer. The Pfaff Creative 4.0 with the embroidery unit was half the price of the Bernina 830. These Berninas are brand new machines and I think after they work out all the bugs they will be wonderful, if you can afford them. Also they are so large and heavy you would need a very sturdy table to hold them. You wouldn't want to carry them to a quilting class.

Yep. Eight thousand is a little rich for my blood! And even if I could afford it, I would wait for them to get any kinks out. I am not into being a beta test for anyone! I loved my Pfaff until it died and went to Home Economics Class Heaven!

barbrdunn 07-14-2010 12:25 AM

I am on my second Pfaff and love it too. I started with the 7570, then traded it in for the 2144 which I have had for about 6 years. It is a dream. I just wish it had a larger throat like some of the newer models.

vschieve 07-14-2010 06:47 AM

I bought a Pfaff 262 in 1968 and will never, ever get rid of it. It is so strong and I do most of my regular sewing on it. Now I did buy the extra walking foot for it from a Pfaff dealer in New Berlin, Wisconsin and it works great. I bought a Pfaff 2170 embroidery machine in Nov, 2008 which has the IDT. What a convenience having it built in and it works great. I also have a Pfaff 130, the great mechanical that is a Pfaff collector's item. Wow-my favorite thing to do on it is free motion quilting. I thought my Pfaff 262 was a tuffy, this thing is a super strong machine. Love my Pfaffs! I do use my mother's treadle to piece; a New England Queen she received as a wedding present in 1945.

adrianlee 07-14-2010 07:02 AM

I loved my Pfaff until it's motherboard went haywire. It's been in the repair shop in Spokane since February. For some weird reason, the shop keeps telling me that keep having to backorder the board. ???? I have my old 830 Bernina I'm using right now and that machine is over 37 years old and still runs and runs and runs. I also have an really old Pfaff for a backup and when that old girl sews she is noisey about it but she gets the job done.

JanEve 07-14-2010 09:39 AM

I want to jump in here too, to say I love my Pfaff Creative Vision 4.0 and the 4D software. Expensive? Yes...but worth every penny.

ronee 07-14-2010 11:43 AM

I have two Pfaff machines. Unfortunately, neither of them have a built-in walking foot. However, I still love them. I also purchased a used Pfaff machine about forty years ago and it is still working great. My son now has it. I don't think I would ever purchase anything but a Pfaff.

vschieve 07-14-2010 12:05 PM

I 2nd the motion! Pfaff all the way for me!

eparys 07-14-2010 12:08 PM

As others have explained, the IDT is a dual feed system that snaps down into the foot to help move the top fabric in concert with the bottom fabric. It works fantastically. You can either use this feature or not. Some feet come with the clear area in the back so that you can engage the IDT while some other feet are solid and do not allow the engagement of the IDT.

I too have two Pfaffs. I LOVE the IDTs (both have it) I have a 2170 (for embroidery) and a 2054 (for piecing). I have 4D as well. I have taught both 3D and 4D but as I am not currently working could not justify the 5D or the new Creative Vision which I would dearly love to have as well. If either of my Pfaffs were to die, I would replace them with another Pfaff.

ronee 07-14-2010 12:10 PM

Nice to know that I am not the only one in love with Pfaff machines

lab fairy 07-14-2010 12:34 PM

It seems a lot of us "Pfaffer's" are coming out of the woodwork. Great machines.

vschieve 07-14-2010 01:32 PM

Betty,
I have a 2170. Intermittedly, when embroidering it cuts the bobbin thread off too short and then when it starts the new color I sometimes have to stop the machine, pull the bobbin, pull the tail out longer so it will catch, then back up the stitching to fill in what was missed or just start that block over. I am in a lifetime embroidery club at the store in my neighborhood that sells them, and the girl that teaches has the upgraded 2144 to 2170. She said that is a fluke in those models. I have not bought the 4D but would love to have it just for the sake of making bigger designs than the rectangular hoop that came with it. I have the Grand Hoop and am limited to just alphabet when it comes to very large. Would love to have the CV 5.5 someday, but way out of my budget at the time. My 2170 is overwhelmingly great anyway. V.

vschieve 07-14-2010 01:35 PM

Is anyone in the yahoo old pfaffies pforum? [email protected]

Judie 07-14-2010 03:45 PM

I have a new Pfaff Creative Vision 5.0 It was a gift from my DH.. what a gift.. I sew almost everyday and hate to go away without my machine.. (I don't take it with us, but want to!!) My previous machine was a Bernina 830.. That sweet machine has sewn everything I put under the foot.. I love that old machine and will never give it up.. but let me tell you, this new Pfaff is the most wonderful thing in my life next to my DH and my grandchildren!! I love a Pfaff!

EdieClay 07-14-2010 03:46 PM

Love my Pfaff too ... nice learn there are other Pfaff users on the board.

Judie 07-14-2010 03:52 PM

I tried to find [email protected] it wouldn't come up.. Is there a typo in the addy or something?

I was also going to say that I have the 4D software.. Haven't learned near enough of it yet.. but before you invest in that software be aware that 5D is coming out soon. I know the shop owners are all going for training now.. I would guess it will be out in the next few months. That is a guess, I know nothing for sure, except that it is coming!

vschieve 07-14-2010 04:05 PM

I was told August is when 5D would be available.

vschieve 07-14-2010 04:07 PM

[email protected] I did a copy and paste. Hope this works.

Caer Urfa 07-14-2010 06:25 PM

Love my Pfaff 4.0. I have had it for a year and we have just been reunited after it being away for its warranty service. After 2 weeks apart we are purring along together nicely.


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