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lpsewing 11-03-2010 06:13 PM

I too like the idea of a comfort quilt @ this times.
It is so about your kindness that will truely mean the world

Roseysue 11-03-2010 06:14 PM

You're right. The kind warm thought is what will come across

Annz 11-03-2010 06:18 PM

I would make a lovely quilt from you to her and not a hint of it relating to her Mom. She will probably have a lot of emotions to sort through some which may not be very pleasant. In time you may make a memory quilt based on how you know how she feels about her mom and how she feels about the taking of her own life. If it is something that takes her a long time to really deal with then at least you made a nice momory between you and her at a time of her need.

penski 11-03-2010 06:23 PM

maybe you could ask her husband what he thinks about you doing that

TN Donna 11-03-2010 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by sahm4605
okay ladies, this is a very sensitive subject. My SIL's mom just passed away saturday. Not to get into the details but she took her own life. I am wanting to do something for my SIL and was thinking about making a memory quit for her. But I don't know if it is a good idea. there are many issues with their relationship, but she was her mom. Do you ladies think that it would be a good idea to make a memory quilt for my sil, even though her mom took her own life? (it was do to a life long battle of horrible depression at least that is what I have been told) I am even hesitent to ask because it is a very touchy subject for me as well as for my SIL. Do you ladies think that this is a good idea or should I not go there?

Having been the daughter of a suicide myself I think it wouod be a great idea but at a later date. Maybe talk to her about her mother first and get some ideas to what to include. I am sure she would enjoy it or you could go ahead if you know enough about her and present the quilt later. Suicide hits pretty hard. We 22 years later found my dad was murdered and it was staged as a suicide.

starshine 11-03-2010 06:29 PM

I haven't read all the posts so forgive me if I'm repeating. The Memory quilts I've seen are made with some clothing of the deceased.
One of the earlier posts suggested asking for some of her clothing before it is all gone. I think this is a good idea. But wait to give it to her until she is ready for it. You could make it anytime and just put it away for the right time or put the clothing or items to use away (maybe labeled so you don't forget where they are from and purpose). If you have the items you can make it sometime. And if she never is ready for it and you don't ever give it to her, you know it was still an act of caring for her even if it remains unknown to her.

I agree that a comfort quilt-something to just give her comfort right now would be best for now.

PBCHRETIEN 11-03-2010 06:39 PM

It really too soon for a memory quilt. I suggest just a quilt without titles. Make her a quilt .... JUST BECAUSE. Later on, make her the memory quilt. Give her time to heal and mourn her loss and then to deal.

M.I.Late 11-03-2010 06:59 PM

I have not read all of the prior posts either, but just to put in my two cents. I would definitely make a comfort quilt only. Maybe at some later time - perhaps way later - you can offer her a memory quilt. You don't have to use her clothing - sometimes pictures are all you have and that's more than enough. Wait and talk to your brother about his wife's relationship with her mother. Sometimes memory quilts are nothing more than crying towels. They're not for everybody - if you don't already know her well enough to know about her relationship with her Mom - concentrate on her relationship with you and make something just for her and let the future take care of itself. Just my personal feelings.

PKITTY1 11-03-2010 07:16 PM

I think a comfort quilt is the better plan right now. Your DH can ask for some clothing to make the memory quilt at a later date. But...I think maybe your SIL, more than anything, may need a good listener. The quilt is great but any long term illness leaves so many raw emotions. I know how I felt when my Dad died from MS. I'm sorry for your loss and I'll say a prayer for your family.

Lindah20 11-03-2010 07:32 PM

My neice's 20 year old daughter did this. I made a prayer shawl for my neice. Very simple. Lion Brand yarn has patterns & a great gift card to download on line. It was received warmly. I offered to make a memory quilt when my neice was ready. It's been almost 2 years now and she hasn't wanted it yet.

Annaleehunter 11-03-2010 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by sahm4605
okay ladies, this is a very sensitive subject. My SIL's mom just passed away saturday. Not to get into the details but she took her own life. I am wanting to do something for my SIL and was thinking about making a memory quit for her. But I don't know if it is a good idea. there are many issues with their relationship, but she was her mom. Do you ladies think that it would be a good idea to make a memory quilt for my sil, even though her mom took her own life? (it was do to a life long battle of horrible depression at least that is what I have been told) I am even hesitent to ask because it is a very touchy subject for me as well as for my SIL. Do you ladies think that this is a good idea or should I not go there?

To be honest, I think she will handle it and cherish it later, not now. She has things to work through before she can appreciate her mother. I went through something similar, and now, (5 years later) love and appreciate the person my mother was, despite her problems. I actually was ready about a year after she died.

Gerbie 11-03-2010 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by sahm4605
okay ladies, this is a very sensitive subject. My SIL's mom just passed away saturday. Not to get into the details but she took her own life. I am wanting to do something for my SIL and was thinking about making a memory quit for her. But I don't know if it is a good idea. there are many issues with their relationship, but she was her mom. Do you ladies think that it would be a good idea to make a memory quilt for my sil, even though her mom took her own life? (it was do to a life long battle of horrible depression at least that is what I have been told) I am even hesitent to ask because it is a very touchy subject for me as well as for my SIL. Do you ladies think that this is a good idea or should I not go there?

I agree that a comfort quilt is in the making for now. Before I would think of making a memory quilt, since they had issues, I would ask SIL later though, if she would like a memory quilt, if not for her, then maybe for her children if there are any. Just my opinion.

Loretta 11-03-2010 08:17 PM

A comfort quilt is the way to go.

Dee 11-03-2010 08:43 PM

I think, in my opinion, I would wait a awhile. Then a comfort quilt would be comforting to her. She needs to accept the trauma that just happened.

moquilter 11-03-2010 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by sahm4605
what is a comfort quilt? one made with bits of her cloths? or just a pretty quilt that is good for cuddling?

The ladies at my church make prayer (comfort quilts) to share with persons in our community with various needs( illness, deaths, new baby, surgery, move to a care facility, family member in military deployed etc)..just to say we care. Most of the quilts are lap robe (crib size) easy to carry from place to place.

Cheshirecatquilter 11-03-2010 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by sahm4605
I think that I will give my bro a call and see if he can get a couple of good pics of her for a memory quilt for maybe next Christmas. I think that a cuddle quilt will work good now. I think when I call him I will ask him what colors she likes. Or if he knows what colors her mom likes. I have a quilt top done that I wasn't sure who to give it to yet and might just use that top if he thinks she will like the colors. It is actually my avatar quilt.thank you all for the help. I will aslo see if I can get a couple of her shirts that my sil remembers most or likes and use them for the memory quilt for her. if my bro thinks it is a good idea. I just want to get something done by tomorrow night because I am leaving at around 6:30 am to drive to OK for the funeral.

Christmas is a time loaded with emotions and triggers, and it may overwhelm her to deal with the physical reminders in a memory quilt. I agree with the others who said something soft and cuddly first, fleece or flannel, then perhaps later you may judge the time to be right for a memory quilt, or maybe even never.

Annaleehunter 11-03-2010 09:34 PM

One day she may embrace a memory quilt, but she must deal with the 'real world' now and in the future, for her and her mother. Just pray; we all want a connection when we are ready... Just now so much now.

Nan Quilts 11-03-2010 09:37 PM

I agree, a comfort quilt might be best for now. Bless you for wanting to ease her pain.

Hugs,
Carol

Gabrielle's Mimi 11-03-2010 10:12 PM

Your intent is loving, but make it definitely a comfort quilt! Having had a painful childhood due to a mother's mental illness issues, the last thing I would ever have wanted at the time of her death would be any reminders. Even now, years later, this is NOT something I'd want. A comfort quilt says "I care about you" and is not intrusive. Let your poor SIL have time and space and peace; not all relationships need to be memorialized. Give her a loving hug and a comfort quilt.

madamekelly 11-04-2010 01:01 AM

I think maybe just a cheerful quilt for now to lighten her day. Even a small one, that you make just to wrap around herself, would be great for someone who has a family history like that. Depression is 'lifted' when we begin to believe that you have value. Give her proof of HER value to you. You could make her one that memorializes a warm fuzzy memory that you two share? Maybe later, when the 'wounds' begin to heal, discuss a memory of her mom? IMHO :) {HUG} You are a good friend to her.

TX GMimi 11-04-2010 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by Barbm
I lost my brother 5 years ago to suicide. I have a box of his clothes to make a quilt. Even after 5 years I cannot bring myself to make a quilt. If by accident I happen to open the box and catch a glimpse of a shirt- OMG- my heart plummets to the floor and I tear up instantly. I don't know if I will ever be healed enough to make a quilt.

A comfort quilt would be perfect right now.

(my heart goes out to the family, as a survivor, the pain is raw and deep and the questions and emotions are just swirling around. A comfort quilt might just the answer when you need to surround yourself in it and make the reality a little softer.)

I am so sorry for your loss...you are in my prayers.

Kyiav10 11-04-2010 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by Sadiemae
Just my opinion, but right now I would make a comfort quilt. Later...I would consider a memory quilt.

Ditto.

Kyia

Sew Hooked 11-04-2010 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by pjustice63
Too soon. Later.

I agree . . . and later might just be a quilt. They will have their own memories . . .

catrancher 11-04-2010 09:37 AM

I would go directly to the source and ask. I've had many losses in my life, including the death of a child in infancy. In my experience, people want to talk about their loss and their grief, but most people are so afraid of offending or of upsetting them (as if they aren't already upset), that they avoid bringing up the issue. This leaves the grieving person feeling alone and isolated.

You can simply ask her if she would like to talk about it, and if so, ask the question then. Give her some time to think about it and then respect her wishes.

When my daughter died, someone asked me if I would like a sampler with her birthdate, weight, etc. I told her, no, because I wanted to do that myself. But it was the kindest thing anyone said to me during that time. She was not a close friend, only an acquaintance, but she did the right thing.

People will tell us what they need. All we need to do is ask. If they cry, it's really okay. They're doing that anyway, and they are stronger than we think they are.

Momma_K 11-04-2010 10:05 AM

Ok this is my first post and usually don't say much but on this...I would have to say a comfort quilt for now. I suffer from depression at times and believe me it doesn't take much to triger an attack. If your sister n laws mother suffered then chances are she will to. Even if a trace it can spiral into something worse. Better yet, with all the sadness on her mind you may even ask her if she would like to participate in the making of the quilt. If she knows she has something to look forward to it may help her along in her mental recovery. I can't imagine losing my mother let alone in the way she lost hers. I think anything kind would be a beautiful gesture.

marla 11-04-2010 11:27 AM

Don't go there. When SIL is ready to talk, just keep the door open for her to do that. She may be grieving for all that did not happen with her mom and bad memories.

Elisabeth J 11-04-2010 12:51 PM

I agree.

jojo47 11-04-2010 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by catrancher
I would go directly to the source and ask. I've had many losses in my life, including the death of a child in infancy. In my experience, people want to talk about their loss and their grief, but most people are so afraid of offending or of upsetting them (as if they aren't already upset), that they avoid bringing up the issue. This leaves the grieving person feeling alone and isolated.

You can simply ask her if she would like to talk about it, and if so, ask the question then. Give her some time to think about it and then respect her wishes.

When my daughter died, someone asked me if I would like a sampler with her birthdate, weight, etc. I told her, no, because I wanted to do that myself. But it was the kindest thing anyone said to me during that time. She was not a close friend, only an acquaintance, but she did the right thing.

People will tell us what they need. All we need to do is ask. If they cry, it's really okay. They're doing that anyway, and they are stronger than we think they are.

Catrancher, I'm sorry for the loss of your daughter. There's now pain like the loss of a child.

We lost a beautiful 19-year-old daughter to a car accident, and for a long time, I could not bring myself to part with some of her things...the time had to be right for ME to let go. One thing now I want to do in her memory is put together the Care Bears alphabet she had cross-stitched. Since there are 26 blocks the quilt will need 4 more blocks to even it up, so I'm going to cross-stitch them commemorating that she had done the work and that it is quilted in memory by her mother (me).

My thought and prayers to all on this board who has lost a loved one.

ljsunflower 11-04-2010 03:21 PM

I think it's wonderful that you would think to do this for your SIL!
But it may be a bit too early to give it to her. Or even to let her know you're doing it.

BrendaB 11-04-2010 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Sadiemae
Just my opinion, but right now I would make a comfort quilt. Later...I would consider a memory quilt.

Ditto. Hugs

starshine 11-04-2010 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by Cheshirecatquilter

Originally Posted by sahm4605
I think that I will give my bro a call and see if he can get a couple of good pics of her for a memory quilt for maybe next Christmas. I think that a cuddle quilt will work good now. I think when I call him I will ask him what colors she likes. Or if he knows what colors her mom likes. I have a quilt top done that I wasn't sure who to give it to yet and might just use that top if he thinks she will like the colors. It is actually my avatar quilt.thank you all for the help. I will aslo see if I can get a couple of her shirts that my sil remembers most or likes and use them for the memory quilt for her. if my bro thinks it is a good idea. I just want to get something done by tomorrow night because I am leaving at around 6:30 am to drive to OK for the funeral.

Christmas is a time loaded with emotions and triggers, and it may overwhelm her to deal with the physical reminders in a memory quilt. I agree with the others who said something soft and cuddly first, fleece or flannel, then perhaps later you may judge the time to be right for a memory quilt, or maybe even never.

If she is ever at a place for a memory quilt, the thought that comes to mind is to give it to her at some other time than Christmas, perhaps not connected to any special day or holiday. But there was a suggestion if there is a time she is open to it, that you offer her the opportunity also to work with you on it. And if that happens she can receive it when it is finished.

Joya 11-05-2010 02:09 AM

Why do you need to mention the lady in question? Her memories are all frought with a lot of negativity and drama right now. The bottom line is you want to offer comfort to your SiL... (Is it your Son-in-law or Sister-in-law?) By all means make a quilt or what ever you want to make. Just make sure it is offered as an object of comfort.....NOT to mention Mother...the emphasis now should be on the survivor(s)... so give your gift for his or her comfort, not with sad strings attached.
I say this from the point of view of someone who is in the middle of five generations of severe depression. It is seldom really understood by others. The deceased victim should not be blamed, but usually is.

gaigai 11-05-2010 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by sahm4605
okay ladies, this is a very sensitive subject. My SIL's mom just passed away saturday. Not to get into the details but she took her own life. I am wanting to do something for my SIL and was thinking about making a memory quit for her. But I don't know if it is a good idea. there are many issues with their relationship, but she was her mom. Do you ladies think that it would be a good idea to make a memory quilt for my sil, even though her mom took her own life? (it was do to a life long battle of horrible depression at least that is what I have been told) I am even hesitent to ask because it is a very touchy subject for me as well as for my SIL. Do you ladies think that this is a good idea or should I not go there?


Unless you are absolutely confident you know exactly how your SIL felt about her mother I wouldn't even go there. You want to help, not hurt, and I think a comfort/cuddle quilt would be perfect. It says you care, without focusing on the source of the pain.

Quilt4u 11-05-2010 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by Sadiemae
Just my opinion, but right now I would make a comfort quilt. Later...I would consider a memory quilt.

Same here.

mardilee 11-05-2010 03:22 AM

Dear sahm4605, please listen to spring. Forget about the memory quilt. When a person has gone through a lifetime of agony with a mentally ill parent, no amount of time heals that wound. Don't make it worse by making something that will constantly remind her of bad times. A cuddle quilt on the other hand, will let your SIL know that she is loved and cared about now:-)

mimiknoxtaylor 11-05-2010 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by Sadiemae
Just my opinion, but right now I would make a comfort quilt. Later...I would consider a memory quilt.

I agree with Sadiemae. My husband's brother took his own life & it's been 15 yrs & I'd say he'd just now be receptive to a memory quilt but maybe not even now. But a comfort quilt would be great!

Momma_K 11-05-2010 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Joya
Why do you need to mention the lady in question? Her memories are all frought with a lot of negativity and drama right now. The bottom line is you want to offer comfort to your SiL... (Is it your Son-in-law or Sister-in-law?) By all means make a quilt or what ever you want to make. Just make sure it is offered as an object of comfort.....NOT to mention Mother...the emphasis now should be on the survivor(s)... so give your gift for his or her comfort, not with sad strings attached.
I say this from the point of view of someone who is in the middle of five generations of severe depression. It is seldom really understood by others. The deceased victim should not be blamed, but usually is.


You are a very wise woman. I couldn't have said it better myself. Depression runs in my family on both mother and fathers side...I have it but learned to fight hard when the meds don't help. But I have a brother and sister that are bi-polar and on disability with it. And too, each person reacts differently with this...And however this is done about the quilt, do it with kindness. Kathy

firecrackerpam 11-05-2010 07:13 AM

Bless you. Your heart is in the right place. There are always so many conflicting feelings when something like this happens. A comfort quilt is the way to go.

TN Donna 11-05-2010 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Joya
Why do you need to mention the lady in question? Her memories are all frought with a lot of negativity and drama right now. The bottom line is you want to offer comfort to your SiL... (Is it your Son-in-law or Sister-in-law?) By all means make a quilt or what ever you want to make. Just make sure it is offered as an object of comfort.....NOT to mention Mother...the emphasis now should be on the survivor(s)... so give your gift for his or her comfort, not with sad strings attached.
I say this from the point of view of someone who is in the middle of five generations of severe depression. It is seldom really understood by others. The deceased victim should not be blamed, but usually is.

I was raised with a mentally ill father who was in hospitals and out again. The sad fact is the drugs they gave didn't always work and I am the product of the bad side of that fact. I was mentally and physically abused by my father. He was dead 29 years before I finally realized last year it was over. I have suffered depression as well as my 3 sisters and 1 brother and my mother. We have all fought to keep it at bay. I have one daughter who is severely depressed and is seeking help for it. I don't think the fact that I was abused will ever go away but the fact that my father is dead and I now realize I never bonded with him hurts worse than the abuse ever did.
A comfort quilt would be good but not a memory quilt now. I wanted to make one from mama's many clothes but my sisters couldn't accept the fact at the time. The gave all of her clothes to charity and I missed the chance. Maybe it would be good to ask her if she would want to help you make the quilt later. You are such a caring person to do this from the heart.

2livesdown7togo 11-05-2010 12:48 PM

I think you can't go wrong if you give her the quilt in your avatar for the moment.

I'd ask brother to allow you to select some things you might want to use for a memory quilt to be given later - you would know what you're looking for, it's your vision.

And maybe family memories need to be the theme, not just focusing on the mother. If the whole family is in the quilt, it's a reminder about supporting each other along the way.

JMHO


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