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    Quilt in the freezer...

    With all the mixed information out about the Frixion pens, I wanted to get the definitive answer for myself. I used my black Frixion pen to mark the pattern on a lap quilt for my Redwork. The fabric was starched and ironed before cutting out the blocks but not washed. I drew the pattern (a couple of times before I got it right) did the Redwork, constructed, quilted and ironed the quilt to remove the black marks.
    I washed my quilt in the regular top load washing machine on gentle with a sprinkle of Tide and fabric softener in the dispenser. I ran it through a brief wash/rinse cycle. I put the lap quilt in the dryer to almost dry and blocked it to finish drying. After it was completely dry, I loosely folded it and put it in a large bag with the top open. I put my bag/quilt in the chest freezer for 3 hours. The Frixion marks are just BARELY visible. If you didn't know they were there you probably wouldn't see them. I will throw the quilt in the dryer today to remove the faint lines.
    I will be using my Frixion pens again as I need them. If I ever (not going to happen)was sending a quilt to a major competition in a airplane cargo hold(very cold) I might be concerned that a judge might notice the faint lines while judging.


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    Thank you.

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    Just backs up what people are warning us about. I won't use them on quilts. Thanks for reconfirming my decision;>

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    I really have to get some of these. I keep forgetting to look for them until I see something posted about them. Since I'm pretty sure that none of my quilts will end up in a freezer I'm good. Will be nice to have something that last but does leave when you want it

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    I have't read about any warnings other then posts from a few people on quilting boards. Mosst haven't used the pens or researched the pens to know anything about them. Lots of professional show quilters blog about these pens and how great they are. If fabric can handle the harsh chemicals used in manufacturing, it can hold up to a non toxic marking pen. The whitish marks left on dark fabric do go away. At least the ones on my quilt did.
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    thanks for sharing your experience
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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace View Post
    Just backs up what people are warning us about. I won't use them on quilts. Thanks for reconfirming my decision;>
    Ditto, especially when there are so many other products on the market that are specifically designed for this purpose and actually wash out.

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    Is it the cost of Frixion pens that make them so appealing? I've never used or bought one.

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    Though remember your fabric was not washed first then starched and ironed.

    This isn't the same as using on a prewashed not treated piece of fabric.

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    You don't need to use them. There are many marking pens to use but all have as many cons as pros. Many antique quilts have visible marking lines and every thinks how great to be able to see the quilter's markings. Why wouldn't future generations think the same about the non toxic pen marking we use today?
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    The fine lines in the roller ball pens are part of the attraction.

    The multiplicity of colors is great, too.

    I use both the highlighter types and the pens. I tested all the colors by scribbling heavily on white fabric, then ironing. There was a faint whitish remnant of the marks left, and when I froze the fabric, some of the color came back.

    I hand-scrubbed the fabric briefly with a little detergent and pressed it dry and all of it was gone without a trace, even after re-freezing it.

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    I love them and since I'm not sending any quilts to Eskimos I won't worry about it. I figure that if my quilts or embroideried designs go to anyone suffering with that amount of coldness they won't look for marks.
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    I love them because it is so easy to mark my quilts! I can take an iron to the marks and "Poof" ~ the marks are gone. If i make a mistake marking my quilt, I can take an iron to it, the marks disappear, and i can start again. I do wash my quilts before I give them away, and no one i know will refreeze the quilt.

    In today's world, we use all kind of marking utensils that "disappear" w/ even just the air that we don't know if they're really "gone" or they just appear to be gone.
    my name is becca and i'm a quilt-a-holic :-)

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    when I put mine back in the freezer after I washed mine, I didn't get any marks back

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    I tested them as well and I had different results. The pen marking was completely gone.

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    I want to know what your family thought when they opened the freezer! I'm pretty sure mine would make fun of me for that one!

    Seriously, thanks for going to all the trouble to do an extensive test and report back to us all. Now everyone has good information to make their own personal decision with.

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    I accidentally used the Frixon pens on my Steam a Seam Lite 2 and ironed them and all my markings were gone and I was so upset, thinking I had to redo them all. I wrote about this on the board and someone smartly wrote me to stick them in the freezer. I did and all the markings came back and I was able to cut them all out. So, they have a second purpose. I will try and never use them for appliqueing again, but if I accidentally do, I know how to fix it.
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    My concern is that, if the marks still reappear (however faintly), it probably means that there is some remaining chemical left in the fibers which may or may not ever fully wash out, and these chemicals may cause the fabric to deteriorate faster over time. The chemicals in some of the old dye colors caused fabric to deteriorate, which is why quilts from a certain age will have shreds or holes where a certain color of fabric was used. I'm not enough of a chemist to know which chemicals might cause deterioration over time.

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    I love the frixion pens and use them all the time. I, too, always starch my fabric heavily that I'm drawing more on the starch than on the fabric. I also tried the test in the freezer and left it overnight..........not a mark could be found on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prism99 View Post
    My concern is that, if the marks still reappear (however faintly), it probably means that there is some remaining chemical left in the fibers which may or may not ever fully wash out, and these chemicals may cause the fabric to deteriorate faster over time. The chemicals in some of the old dye colors caused fabric to deteriorate, which is why quilts from a certain age will have shreds or holes where a certain color of fabric was used. I'm not enough of a chemist to know which chemicals might cause deterioration over time.
    I agree completely with this. My concern isn't that I'm sending a quilt to an Eskimo who might see my quilt markings, my concern is what remains in the fibers after the ink is ironed "out".

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    Before marking a quilt top with a Frixion pen for some finishing-touches-redwor, I marked some of the scraps from the top with the pen I intended to use. First I pressed the scraps with a very hot iron. All marks disappeared instantly. Then I folded the scrap and put it in the freezer compartment of the refrigerator. The marks reappeared. I put the scrap on an outside table in the hot Texas sun and the marks disappeared. Since it is much more likely that my quilt will be exposed to heat than to freezing temperatures, I marked the redwork pattern on the quilt top. It was a difficult task because the Frixion pen does not have the marking power that Sharpies have. But that difficulty is offset by the fact that the Frixion ink did not bleed into the surrounding fabric.

    It is my opinion, which in this case is neither humble nor arrogant, that should the marks ever reappear because the quilt is exposed to freezing temperatures, the user huddled under it will not be very interested in the marks. froggyintexas

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    I use the washable Crayola markers (for kids) and have never had a problem with them not washing out of a quilt.

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    I have used these pens with much success. I press the lines out as soonas I am finished with them and I have not had any trouble, so I will continue using them..Sorry for the ones that are not happy with them because they do save a lot of time.

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    Thank you so much for sharing that wow

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    It seems that some of these 'disappearing markers' are in the same category as doing a 'simple delete' of a computer file.

    It seems to be 'gone' - but are we absolutely certain that it won't reappear again under certain circumstances?

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