Welcome to the Quilting Board!

Already a member? Login above
loginabove
OR
To post questions, help other quilters and reduce advertising (like the one on your left), join our quilting community. It's free!

Results 1 to 20 of 20

Thread: Singer Threading Problem

  1. #1
    Super Member MommaDorian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Sully, Iowa
    Posts
    2,506
    Blog Entries
    2

    Singer Threading Problem

    I have an older Singer. It's very inconsistent. Half the time I can't get it threaded when I can figure that out (terrible manual) I still can't get it to catch the bobbin thread. It just stitches on the top then pulls right now. Maybe this is why it was at the thrift store.

    Any ideas why?
    Dorian

    If you've met one child with Autism, you've met ONE child with Autism.

  2. #2
    Moderator QuiltnNan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    western NY formerly MN, FL, NC, SC
    Posts
    42,507
    Blog Entries
    43
    if it's not catching the bobbin thread, one thought is that the needle is not inserted to the right depth, or is in backwards or skewed
    Nancy in western NY
    before you speak THINK
    T is it True? H is it Helpful? I is it Inspiring? N is it Necessary? K is it Kind?


  3. #3
    Super Member mermaid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Tennessee, UC area
    Posts
    1,065
    Or you don't have the bobbin threaded correctly. Which model is it?

  4. #4
    Super Member JulieR's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Emmitsburg, MD
    Posts
    1,624
    Or the "tail" on the bobbin thread is too long. That has been happening to me lately when I bring the bobbin thread to the top to start FMQ.

  5. #5
    Super Member Caroline S's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Sierra Vista, AZ
    Posts
    3,972
    Your sewing machine may be "out of time" also.
    Sweet Caroline

  6. #6
    Power Poster BellaBoo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Front row
    Posts
    14,661
    Blog Entries
    2
    What model ?
    Got fabric?

  7. #7
    Super Member Daylesewblessed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    West Texas
    Posts
    1,784
    If this is a vintage machine, post your question and picture of it on the "vintage machines" section. There are lots of people there who are very informed about specific models. I suggest that once you get the upper threading figured out, either mark your machine or make a drawing that YOU can understand for future reference.

    Dayle

  8. #8
    Power Poster dunster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Lake Elsinore, CA
    Posts
    12,400
    That's surprising, because most of the older manuals were much better written than the newer ones, IMHO. Let us know what type of machine you have and perhaps we can be more specific in our answers. I agree with the others that it's probably a problem with threading, needle, bobbin, etc.

  9. #9
    Super Member MommaDorian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Sully, Iowa
    Posts
    2,506
    Blog Entries
    2
    It is model 5705. Here is a picture:

    Name:  singer-flatbed_school_model-5705.jpg
Views: 721
Size:  32.9 KB
    Dorian

    If you've met one child with Autism, you've met ONE child with Autism.

  10. #10
    Power Poster Prism99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Western Wisconsin
    Posts
    11,886
    Blog Entries
    1
    It's not a vintage machine.

    Threading is very similar on all of these older machines, so shouldn't be difficult to figure out. The arrows tell you the thread path to follow. The only thing that might require some fiddling is figuring out that first tension guide (the plastic one on top), but it looks as if you figured that out. Here is a link to a Youtube video that shows the typical thread path: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DexrUyBQpA

    Are you making sure that the presser foot is UP when you thread the machine? That is necessary in order to seat the threads correctly in the upper tension discs.

    One thing I see is that the type of thread spool you are using should really be placed vertically on the spool pin, not horizontally. I don't have a machine with that type of holder, so maybe someone else can comment on this. I do know that American type spools should be upright; crosswound spools (mostly from European makers) are the ones that should be mounted horizontally like the one in your picture. The red thread does not look like a crosswound spool to me.

    You cannot assume that the needle in the machine is the correct one for the machine or that it has been inserted properly. I agree with re-seating the needle, and would also replace the needle if you have one handy.

    I cannot really tell from the picture, but it looks as if the upper tension knob is not at a realistic setting. Typically you want to start with it at 5 or so.

    Have you tested the bobbin tension? Here is a link to a tutorial on tensions:
    http://www.threadsmagazine.com/item/...nsion/page/all

    If, after doing all this, the machine still does not bring the bobbin thread to the surface, chances are that the machine is out of time. This can happen when there is a bad thread jam, especially on less expensive machines like this (although it can happen on expensive machines too!). That becomes very technical, as it has to do with the timing interaction between the needle and the bobbin, and usually you take it to a technician for that fix.

    If I had to start with just one thing, it would be making sure that the correct needle is in the machine and that it has been inserted correctly.

  11. #11
    Super Member JulieR's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Emmitsburg, MD
    Posts
    1,624
    Prism99, I believe that's just a stock photo. I have a similar model, and on mine there is no option for a vertical spool pin.

    Otherwise I think you're spot on.

    Also, again with the bobbin "tail". That's caused me an untold number of issues.

  12. #12
    Power Poster Prism99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Western Wisconsin
    Posts
    11,886
    Blog Entries
    1
    Sheesh. Stock photo, yes. Didn't even think of that!

  13. #13
    Super Member JulieR's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Emmitsburg, MD
    Posts
    1,624
    Although everything you said about it was correct. You'd think they might have had someone in the room who knew how to work a sewing machine with the photo was taken!

  14. #14
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    368
    Any possibility that you have the wrong BOBBIN? I know I have purchased machines with needles inserted backwards, wrong bobbin (L when it required M) and it just would not stitch past 1 or 2 stitches. Then the ah ha moment and tried a different tack. Maybe?

  15. #15
    Super Member MommaDorian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Sully, Iowa
    Posts
    2,506
    Blog Entries
    2
    Here is a picture I just took without the cover. When I turn the hand wheel towards me, and the top thread goes down, it gets stuck in the bobbin case.

    Name:  DSC_0909.jpg
Views: 323
Size:  1.60 MB
    Dorian

    If you've met one child with Autism, you've met ONE child with Autism.

  16. #16
    Super Member Tink's Mom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    chicago, IL
    Posts
    9,692
    It's possible that the bobbin case has a snag or is broken...I know the machine you have and it is a nice starter machine.
    You can remove the bobbin case by sliding the little black arm in the upper left corner of the bobbin case toward the white...lift out the case and run a finger around all the outside edges...if everything is smooth...put the case back in by putting your finger into the hole and floating it in the bobbin area. I must sit even and float...if on an angle, try again. Slide the metal arm back into place and try to thread again.
    Good Luck. BTW, Needle goes in with the flat side of needle to the back.
    Tink's Mom (My name is really Susie)

  17. #17
    Power Poster Prism99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Western Wisconsin
    Posts
    11,886
    Blog Entries
    1
    I agree also with checking the bobbin to make sure it's the right one for the machine. To be sure, you probably need to purchase new bobbins that specify they are for this model. It can be impossible to tell one type of plastic bobbin from another type, because the differences can be very subtle (to us, not to the machines!).

  18. #18
    Super Member JulieR's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Emmitsburg, MD
    Posts
    1,624
    When you pull both ends of the red thread it isn't catching the yellow? It is just jamming in there?

  19. #19
    Super Member MommaDorian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Sully, Iowa
    Posts
    2,506
    Blog Entries
    2
    Quote Originally Posted by JulieR View Post
    When you pull both ends of the red thread it isn't catching the yellow? It is just jamming in there?
    No, it isn't catching the yellow. It's just getting all jumbled up. It's the right bobbin. I'm using ones that it came with, that have worked before. I recently had it serviced and it worked after that. Just quit working, all of the sudden.
    Dorian

    If you've met one child with Autism, you've met ONE child with Autism.

  20. #20
    Senior Member Earleen's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Michigan--the sunrise side
    Posts
    389
    I had that problem when I bought a old Kenmore, yup needle threaded side to side instead of front to back. Sews great now. Had to reinsert needle with flat side facing the right of machine instead of in the back. Just a thought.
    Earleen The best helping hand is at the end of your arm.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.