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    So Frustrated!!

    I upgraded to a Pfaff Ambition Essential on Saturday and am ready to take it back to the store! I can't sew more than 10 inches and it creates a rat's nest of thread under the material & I have to rip everything out. I've tried adjusting the tension, threading, rethreading, replacing bobbin, you name it. Any suggestions?

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    I would check for correct threading and correct bobbin placement - I had problems with my tension off and on for about 4 months after I bought my machine - turns out - I wasn't threading the bobbin correctly - Once I read the manual for the 1000th time - I realized that I was not following the directions exactly - anyway, now I know and it works great. The other things to check are what you have listed. Good luck.

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    I had a simile problem with my Janome 6600P - I was threading the bobbin incorrectly - thought this never happened on my 60 + year Singer. And remembered there were times we fought - and I would re-thread the bobbin and it was fine.
    Good Luck!!!

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    Can you bring it back to the store and have them try it? I don't blame you for being frustrated.

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    The same thing happened with my Brother PQ1500S. Every time it happened, the bobbin tension was the problem. I know you said you checked that, but just sharing my experience. I wound another bobbin to test out the theory, and then it worked perfect. I'll never know why the other one didn't work that time. Some unknowable mishap when winding the bobbin the first time. So my recommendation is to win another bobbin even if the first one looks fine, start over from scratch by re-threading the machine, and see if that helps. I know it's really frustrating! You have my sympathy!
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    my vote is also for an incorrectly loaded bobbin.
    i will never admit publicly how often i have made that mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriceJ View Post
    my vote is also for an incorrectly loaded bobbin.
    i will never admit publicly how often i have made that mistake.
    I agree with both comments... and believe I should have a few secrets too.

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    I had the same problem with my machine. The bobbin looked just fine, UNTIL I started to unwind the bobbin thread. While winding it, some very small loop had formed somewhere in the middle. These newfangled machines are just so sensitive. Maybe I should have apologized to it lolol

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    Are you threading with the needle up? Also try grabbing both bobbin and top threads when starting a seam.
    Regardless of design - I've had the top thread pop out of the take up lever. In machine embroidery, the problem is often the opposite side. If you have a rat's nest underneath, the problem is usually on the top somewhere.

    With the bobbin - check to make sure it's securely in there. The new Ambition is drop-in bobbin isn't it? Those who use drop-in bobbins might have more suggestions.
    I've got vertical bobbins and they don't always catch on the spindle and pop out. There used to be a good click on the older Pfaffs, not so now.

    The older Pfaffs had lousy thread cutters. A lot of times they will NOT pick up the bobbin thread correctly or at all. However, with a drop-in bobbin the thread cutter should have improved.
    Last edited by Weezy Rider; 09-25-2012 at 05:28 AM.

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    When I upgraded my Pfaff I had a few threading problems because I was doing it the way I did with my previous Pfaffs. After blaming the machine it finally dawned on me to take out the manual. I slowly step by step and that made me see where I went wrong.
    If that doesn't work for you I'd go back to the dealer with the machine and have them try to solve the problems.
    Last edited by May in Jersey; 09-25-2012 at 05:39 AM.

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    Thank you all for your suggestions! I'm going to call the dealer today and see if they can help me out. I live an hour away and don't want to wait till I can get back down there since it will be a couple weeks!

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    I would take it back and let the dealer sew with it just like you have it and let her/him find out what the problem is. You paid for dealer to know. The dealer should know immediately if it is the bobbin. Don't tell them what you think is the problem. This way you will have future confidence in the dealer or not.
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    Good luck, I hope the dealer has some helpful suggestions so you don't have to wait the couple weeks.
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    I checked the threading of the top and bobbin with the manual for a long time when using a new machine. If a problem comes out I will still get it out to make sure I'm doing it right. Sewing on a scrap to get it right helps out too, no ripping and saves your fabric from constantly ripping.
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    I vote for a bobbin issue, I have 2 Pfaffs (older, nothing fancy) but the bobbins seem finicky. One of them winds the bobbin too full and I have to remember or else take some thread off. Also make sure you are putting the bobbin in correctly, it seems a little different from my Singer. If nothing helps, take it back and let the shop help you. I would call them if it is too far to drive today. Good luck with getting things straight.

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    Also make sure the needle is in correctly and all the way up in the shaft.
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    It could be your bobbin itself. I wound some bobbins the other day for my Viking and one of them just did not come out right. Sure enough, I had birds nests and breaking thread. As soon as I changed bobbins everything was a-ok.

    I have an Ambition and really love it. The drop-in bobbin is identical to my Viking. Make sure your bobbin thread "clicks" through the first part and ishould be correct. Stay with your Ambition until this one problem is solved and I think you will love it to.

    Oh the only finicky part of this machine - make sure you buy a needle plate with the single hole for your straight sewing and piecing. It wants to either chew the fabric or nest it at the beginning when using the zig zag plate.

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    I have have 4 pfaff's and discovered when I finally read the manual for the 1100 PRO, that there is a little metal circle on the bobbin that the thread needs to go through. My other Pfaffs don't have that additional metal circle. Now it sews fine.
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    Ok, called the dealer and got a bit of help. I rewound bobbin & re threaded machine again and it seemed to do the trick. I could sew a nice straight line. Tried zigzag, miserable fail. It came out straight too! I have dealer stumped, so I guess I have to take it to dealer to fix. I hadn't even sewn 15 minutes on this thing. It better straighten up or I'm returning it!!!

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    I have a Husqvarna and I had the same issue once. I re-threaded the machine and re-loaded the bobbin until I was blue in the face. I even took it in to have the experts look at it. As it turned out, nothing was wrong with my machine nor my threading/bobbin loading technique. It was simply the brand of thread I was using. I traditionally use the Gutermann brand but ran out in the middle of a project. I had a comparable color in the Coats & Clark line so I used that. My machine did not perform well at all and I had a huge rat's nest on the bottom of the fabric, the tension messed up and the automatic thread cutter locked up. The experts at the shop asked what type of thread I use, and suggested that the brand might be the issue. We took out the C&C, got out another color of the Gutermann to try and the machine purred again. Strange, but true story! If you've tried all of the other options you've mentioned, plus this one, and still no luck then take it back to see if they will exchange the machine for you. Best of luck to you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lap quilter View Post
    I have a Husqvarna and I had the same issue once. I re-threaded the machine and re-loaded the bobbin until I was blue in the face. I even took it in to have the experts look at it. As it turned out, nothing was wrong with my machine nor my threading/bobbin loading technique. It was simply the brand of thread I was using. I traditionally use the Gutermann brand but ran out in the middle of a project. I had a comparable color in the Coats & Clark line so I used that. My machine did not perform well at all and I had a huge rat's nest on the bottom of the fabric, the tension messed up and the automatic thread cutter locked up. The experts at the shop asked what type of thread I use, and suggested that the brand might be the issue. We took out the C&C, got out another color of the Gutermann to try and the machine purred again. Strange, but true story! If you've tried all of the other options you've mentioned, plus this one, and still no luck then take it back to see if they will exchange the machine for you. Best of luck to you!
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    I have that problem if the bobbin thread is in the case wrong and headed in the wrong direction (clockwise instead of counter clockwise). Also I do better if I put the thread spool itself is on upside down and unwinds from the front. Don't know why it makes a difference, but works better that way. (I have a PFAFF 2056)

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    there has been some problems with bobbin winding[[on this site ? where

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    My problem with my bernina is usually the thread itself. It is a very fussy machine and dislikes some threads.

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    I had a bobbin for some reason would not work and did the same thing. I used a different bobbin and everything work just fine. I found out from my dealer some boobins may have a flaw and will not work correctly.

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