Stack and slash - 5 pointed star - 11 colors - help please
10-21-2009, 10:54 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by LucyInTheSky
Sno - I borrowed this image from the link provided earlier. I added numbers.
Tell me how they are divided up after each cut. Please type as simply as possible, and don't move any fabrics yet. I can figure this out! I've walked students through word problems, I can figure this out dangit! :!:
So from you, I want something like:
1st cut: 1-8 on one side, 9-11 on other
2nd cut: 1-5, 6-8, 9-11
That way, I can see that you have a piece, after the first cut, that will eventually turn into 1-8, and after the second cut 9-11. Then I see your 2nd cut breaks up 1-8 so 1-5 are now on 1 piece of fabric, and 6-8 are on a 2nd, with 9-11 not doing anything
If you can understand what I said, and give me that, I think I can tell you what to do :D
And again, don't start moving fabrics yet! I just care about what each cut will give you.
Tell me how they are divided up after each cut. Please type as simply as possible, and don't move any fabrics yet. I can figure this out! I've walked students through word problems, I can figure this out dangit! :!:
So from you, I want something like:
1st cut: 1-8 on one side, 9-11 on other
2nd cut: 1-5, 6-8, 9-11
That way, I can see that you have a piece, after the first cut, that will eventually turn into 1-8, and after the second cut 9-11. Then I see your 2nd cut breaks up 1-8 so 1-5 are now on 1 piece of fabric, and 6-8 are on a 2nd, with 9-11 not doing anything
If you can understand what I said, and give me that, I think I can tell you what to do :D
And again, don't start moving fabrics yet! I just care about what each cut will give you.
Do you remember how many different fabric you start out with/need?
10-21-2009, 11:48 AM
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I know I just can't explain correctly...
I don't have the pattern...
But this is how I think the cuts should go...
The first cut...bottom right hand corner to the center of the top..
The second cut..bottom left hand corner to the center of the top...
The third cut..bottom of the left hand corner over to the right side about 1/4 of the way down from the right top...
The forth cut...bottom of the right hand corner to to the left side about 1/4 of the way down from the left top....
The last cut...from the left 1/4 of the way down top over to the right side 1/4 of the way down cut...
That illustration..shows the cut differently and I can't for the life of me figure the cutting formation with that illustration...
Since there are 11 fabrics in the star I just assume it was 11 fabrics..but as I think about it..and this makes since...you probably 12 fabrics..to have 12 blocks..and that would make the quilt...
I know I am talking in circles...maybe I will figure it out...
I don't have the pattern...
But this is how I think the cuts should go...
The first cut...bottom right hand corner to the center of the top..
The second cut..bottom left hand corner to the center of the top...
The third cut..bottom of the left hand corner over to the right side about 1/4 of the way down from the right top...
The forth cut...bottom of the right hand corner to to the left side about 1/4 of the way down from the left top....
The last cut...from the left 1/4 of the way down top over to the right side 1/4 of the way down cut...
That illustration..shows the cut differently and I can't for the life of me figure the cutting formation with that illustration...
Since there are 11 fabrics in the star I just assume it was 11 fabrics..but as I think about it..and this makes since...you probably 12 fabrics..to have 12 blocks..and that would make the quilt...
I know I am talking in circles...maybe I will figure it out...
10-22-2009, 10:35 AM
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I have made a stack and whack quilt with a 7-year old friend.... this is essentially the same thing.
Do what is described here. Cut all first, hopefully several at a time.
Stack them all up -- and then follow what is said here about moving pieces to the bottom. I cut, did the shuffle, and then we sewed each block one at a time and had no problem with repeating fabrics in any given block....
By the way, the 7-year-old is now in her teens and designs and sews all of her own clothes and some for her mom.... I love getting to pass this passion for fabric and sewing on!!!!
Do what is described here. Cut all first, hopefully several at a time.
Stack them all up -- and then follow what is said here about moving pieces to the bottom. I cut, did the shuffle, and then we sewed each block one at a time and had no problem with repeating fabrics in any given block....
By the way, the 7-year-old is now in her teens and designs and sews all of her own clothes and some for her mom.... I love getting to pass this passion for fabric and sewing on!!!!
10-22-2009, 10:58 AM
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Trust me - - if you look at it too much, you will become confused <g>.
Layer the fabrics
Make the cuts - - there will be eleven stacks, each with eleven different colors in each stack ... or, eleven stacks with FIFTEEN different colors ... you are the human, you have superiority over all inanimate objects, they have to do what you say! <g> If you want twelve blocks, then by all means! Use twelve different fabrics ...
Then you must shuffle the "deck" - - first stack, put top piece on the bottom. Second stack move two pieces from top to bottom ... third stack, three pieces put to the back of the deck (from top to bottom)
Work through each stack, moving the matching number of pieces from the top to the bottom as the order that you are picking them up to shuffle the pieces.
The reason that you are getting stumped is: you want to cut, shuffle, sew, then cut again ... and shuffle, sew, and then cut again ...
I don't know how that will turn out, and it might very well work ... but, I do know that the quilters who have written about the "stack and whack" or "shuffle the deck" ... have a process that will get you what you want.
Layer the fabrics
Make the cuts - - there will be eleven stacks, each with eleven different colors in each stack ... or, eleven stacks with FIFTEEN different colors ... you are the human, you have superiority over all inanimate objects, they have to do what you say! <g> If you want twelve blocks, then by all means! Use twelve different fabrics ...
Then you must shuffle the "deck" - - first stack, put top piece on the bottom. Second stack move two pieces from top to bottom ... third stack, three pieces put to the back of the deck (from top to bottom)
Work through each stack, moving the matching number of pieces from the top to the bottom as the order that you are picking them up to shuffle the pieces.
The reason that you are getting stumped is: you want to cut, shuffle, sew, then cut again ... and shuffle, sew, and then cut again ...
I don't know how that will turn out, and it might very well work ... but, I do know that the quilters who have written about the "stack and whack" or "shuffle the deck" ... have a process that will get you what you want.
10-22-2009, 11:03 AM
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now I have a question, and I am just going to go do what I just said to PROVE that you don't have to get to the point where you are moving FOURTEEN pieces to make fifteen blocks that are all different ... in the meantime ... listen to the ones that have actually done this!
I shall return in an hour to report on my findings!
<wave>
I shall return in an hour to report on my findings!
<wave>
10-22-2009, 12:23 PM
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okay, so I am fudging, but could the name of your quilt you are looking for called:
Pointless Wonder
???
I still think you are getting hung up on process ... I promise ... what the others are telling you will work <g> <muttering to self: trust me like a mother :| > :wink:
Pointless Wonder
???
I still think you are getting hung up on process ... I promise ... what the others are telling you will work <g> <muttering to self: trust me like a mother :| > :wink:
10-22-2009, 12:42 PM
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YOU GUYS REALLY ARE THE BEST!!
Without your help I would have never figured it out...but after many many diagram drawings I finally GOT IT!!
I got the stack and whack shuffle the way it needs to go....
I needed to use 12 fabrics instead of 11...but
I finally got 11 different fabrics in one star, and only using 5 cuts...
It was hard and my brain hurts...but it was worth it...
now I just need to go try it...but it works on paper...
Without your help I would have never figured it out...but after many many diagram drawings I finally GOT IT!!
I got the stack and whack shuffle the way it needs to go....
I needed to use 12 fabrics instead of 11...but
I finally got 11 different fabrics in one star, and only using 5 cuts...
It was hard and my brain hurts...but it was worth it...
now I just need to go try it...but it works on paper...
10-22-2009, 12:47 PM
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EXCELLENT! Aren't you the clever one, though, to do it with PAPER ...
of course you have change my life forever, but that is a whole new story.
The progress I am making (following the stack and slash website provided by .. oh, who knows??? <g>)
I thought I was making the first cut correctly ... but alas ... it wasn't, and there is no way it is going to be a star, but I just kept slashing until I had eleven pieces.
Now, all I have to do is shuffle ...
oh ... that part where it looks like the top layer is two different fabrics? Well, that is because I wouldn't change my rotary cutting blade ... not to worry ... I will put them right before shuffling ... I just wanted you to see what I had managed in all of these ... how many minutes?
I have to go take the picture. :roll:
of course you have change my life forever, but that is a whole new story.
The progress I am making (following the stack and slash website provided by .. oh, who knows??? <g>)
I thought I was making the first cut correctly ... but alas ... it wasn't, and there is no way it is going to be a star, but I just kept slashing until I had eleven pieces.
Now, all I have to do is shuffle ...
oh ... that part where it looks like the top layer is two different fabrics? Well, that is because I wouldn't change my rotary cutting blade ... not to worry ... I will put them right before shuffling ... I just wanted you to see what I had managed in all of these ... how many minutes?
I have to go take the picture. :roll:
10-22-2009, 12:56 PM
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actually, I have seen a quilt made with pieces like this with the black "leading" between each piece ... fittingly called "stack the deck for a crazy quilt" .... back to the work.
You have to know that the rotary cutter I am using was purchased by my daughter YEARS ago so that I could actually make a quilt like this, and I just never got around to it ... I guess <g> the time has come ... still considering the leading, but for now, we are interested in the process ... and, I will complete it, even though the original poster no longer needs my input ... I think it is in my job description somewhere, but since I haven't finished writing the contract, I will do the best I can with what I have. 8)
You have to know that the rotary cutter I am using was purchased by my daughter YEARS ago so that I could actually make a quilt like this, and I just never got around to it ... I guess <g> the time has come ... still considering the leading, but for now, we are interested in the process ... and, I will complete it, even though the original poster no longer needs my input ... I think it is in my job description somewhere, but since I haven't finished writing the contract, I will do the best I can with what I have. 8)
slash and shuffle ... just getting it cut was an adventure ... of course it was! I was the one cutting
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