Well don't this take the cake!
09-21-2010, 08:47 AM
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You are right Patrice, that statement was much too vague. I should have said that once it was published in a magazine, (if you purchased that magazine) that you can make that pattern without any problems. See this thread:
http://www.quiltingboard.com/t-62448-1.htm
But I still believe from looking at it that the pattern indicated is not unique enough to actually be copyrighted.
http://www.quiltingboard.com/t-62448-1.htm
But I still believe from looking at it that the pattern indicated is not unique enough to actually be copyrighted.
09-21-2010, 08:51 AM
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And copyright exists when something is 'published', yes, but digital media counts as publishing these days. It does not have to be on paper to be copyright protected. For instance, all of Marcia's instructions and original blocks on Quilter's Cache are copyright protected and they are all digital.
09-21-2010, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ghostrider
And copyright exists when something is 'published', yes, but digital media counts as publishing these days. It does not have to be on paper to be copyright protected. For instance, all of Marcia's instructions and original blocks on Quilter's Cache are copyright protected and they are all digital.
http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/...Patterns.shtml
09-21-2010, 03:30 PM
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I guess I should pull out some of my designs and send to magazines! They are all from EQ's block library, all public domain. I rather just play and give the design layout to anyone interested. I showed the quilt design to my guild today and it's going to be our group quilt for the quarter.
09-21-2010, 04:01 PM
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It's very nice, but it's so simple that I would never buy a magazine or a pattern to make one -- you can tell how it's put together by just knowing very basic block construction.
That's where the copyrights of quiltmaking get murky -- how can a blogger or a magazine claim copyright on a design which is a combo of two blocks that have been around for hundreds of years? They can claim it, but the reality is that a four patch and a square in a square, alternating and set on point -- it's been around for a long time.
RST
That's where the copyrights of quiltmaking get murky -- how can a blogger or a magazine claim copyright on a design which is a combo of two blocks that have been around for hundreds of years? They can claim it, but the reality is that a four patch and a square in a square, alternating and set on point -- it's been around for a long time.
RST
09-22-2010, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BellaBoo
:? I was playing with EQ7 and thought I'd make a Christmas design using two simple blocks. It never got further then the EQ program. I saved the pattern and forgot about it. I saw this:
http://www.piecenquilt.blogspot.com/
That's the exact same pattern I came up with! Now if I had made this quilt and did all the things that copyright said I could not do with a published pattern how could I have proved it was my own design? What if I wanted to send my pattern to anyone free who asks for it? What if I wanted to post it online? To beat all it's almost the exact colors. Now this quilt will be copyrighted once it's published. If anyone wants to see the block construction I used pm me. Here is the one I designed.
http://www.piecenquilt.blogspot.com/
That's the exact same pattern I came up with! Now if I had made this quilt and did all the things that copyright said I could not do with a published pattern how could I have proved it was my own design? What if I wanted to send my pattern to anyone free who asks for it? What if I wanted to post it online? To beat all it's almost the exact colors. Now this quilt will be copyrighted once it's published. If anyone wants to see the block construction I used pm me. Here is the one I designed.
I was sent the link to this site by someone who read's my blog and wanted to let me know about this. I don't know when you designed your holiday quilt but I did mine early this year. It started as a sketch in my notebook and then I took it to EQ and imported the fabrics in February. By no means do I claim to have invented the four patch or square in a square! I was asked to submit a holiday piece to the magazine and wanted to create a design that looked complex but was made from simple blocks.
I actually wrote an article that went with the quilt and is available on McCalls's site. In the first part of the article I wrote... "I designed Holiday Ribbons to be a bold quilt that looks much more complicated to put together than it really is. The quilt is constructed using just 2 simple and very traditional blocks, a basic broken sash and a four-patch. By setting the blocks on point and carefully choosing my fabric placement I was able to create a quilt that looks like I worked on it all year!"
{they changed square in a square to broken sash}
The fact that we both picked the same colors is funny to me.. and I think of it as we both got it right! In reality there are only so many colors red, green, blue, and white if you are thinking "holiday."
Re: Your Copyright Questions
Q: What if I wanted to send my pattern to anyone free who asks for it?
A: You are more than welcome to provide your pattern to anyone.
Q: What if I wanted to post it online?
A: You can. {I'd prefer you don't.. but I can't stop you from posting yours}
As people have said in the comments... the copyright covers a few things.
1. The name and the actual photographs of my quilt
2. The instructions and directions for the specific size, scale etc that I designed. {I don't know what block size you designed yours as but chances are we didn't do that exactly the same.}
3. The specific layout I designed. As in the 2 borders at the measurements that I designed etc.
I've had my work "copied" intentionally and un-intentionally in the past. I've accepted that the un-intentional is going to happen, like this, and I have no hard feelings. {i hope you don't either} It's the intentional ones that hurt... when people knowingly take designs from others.
If you would like to submit work to a magazine let me know. I can give you some helpful info on the process and the contact info of a few editors. Please e-mail me if you have any questions about this process.
-Julie
http://www.jaybirdquilts.com/
09-22-2010, 12:16 PM
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You know, I just got my McCall's Quilting magazine yesterday, and I saw that quilt and thought to myself that it looked like the kind of design that more than one person could think up, easily, and get into copyright trouble over. Guess I was right!
And it's a nice looking quilt, too. The colors, the simple design... just very classic.
And it's a nice looking quilt, too. The colors, the simple design... just very classic.
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