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Thread: Advice On These Borders?

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    I just finished my first Sampler Quilt. I've been sewing for almost a year and a half and decided to make a Sampler to work on some skills I haven't tried yet. I made the borders extra large to accomodate a scalloped border and I was thinking of adding some Benicia Rose Applique but I'm not sure. What do you think?

    This is the Samper Quilt with extra wide borders. They'll be trimmed up when I scallop them, after the quilting.
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    A closer look at some of the borders.
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    The Benicia Rose Applique pieces I was thinking of using, in a traveling vine way, to travel around the outside of the borders.
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    I think the applique would look really nice, just be careful on placement, since you're planning an scalloped border, you don't want to go thru all the effort, just to have to cut it off. oops...

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    Beautiful top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel
    I think the applique would look really nice, just be careful on placement, since you're planning an scalloped border, you don't want to go thru all the effort, just to have to cut it off. oops...
    That's why I made the borders extra wide. They're 10" borders and the widest part of the applique is 3" so I was thinking of making the applique pieces swirl nearest to the quilt blocks and then do a scalloped border a few inches from there. I was also thinking of tracing out the scallops so I would know where to place the applique but just not sure. :?

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    I think the applique will be a nice addition to the plain borders.

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    Wonderful work! You are to be congratulated. The border idea sounds great. Would you use the same reds for the flowers and green or maybe tans for the stem and leaves?

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    Beautiful!

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    Your quilt is beautiful.

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    I think the applique would look lovely, and really enhance the quilt top.

    I just have to say this - and I mean no offense - but before you do the applique, please make sure your borders are correctly attached and the correct length....I don't know if it's the picture, but it looks like there is a lot of extra fullness in there.

    As you said in your post, you did the sampler blocks to work on some skills. Learning how to properly measure and attach borders is soooooo important. I really can't stress it enough.

    I would hate for you to do all that beautiful applique, quilt the quilt, and find out your borders have the topography of the Rocky Mountains. You can't go back and fix it later.

    A sampler quilt book might have very generic instructions. I'm sure you can do a search on the board - I did very quickly, but some of the suggestions weren't great, and could lead to even wavier borders. It's so important to understand how do to it correctly.

    Feel free to PM me if you want, and I can write out the correct way to do it, and post it here. But you don't just slap them on and sew, not after all that hard work.

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    I love your fabrics.....I am partial to red. You did a great job. I like the idea of the scalloped borders too. Thanks for sharing. Please post a pic when it is finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTS
    I think the applique would look lovely, and really enhance the quilt top.

    I just have to say this - and I mean no offense - but before you do the applique, please make sure your borders are correctly attached and the correct length....I don't know if it's the picture, but it looks like there is a lot of extra fullness in there.

    As you said in your post, you did the sampler blocks to work on some skills. Learning how to properly measure and attach borders is soooooo important. I really can't stress it enough.

    I would hate for you to do all that beautiful applique, quilt the quilt, and find out your borders have the topography of the Rocky Mountains. You can't go back and fix it later.

    A sampler quilt book might have very generic instructions. I'm sure you can do a search on the board - I did very quickly, but some of the suggestions weren't great, and could lead to even wavier borders. It's so important to understand how do to it correctly.

    Feel free to PM me if you want, and I can write out the correct way to do it, and post it here. But you don't just slap them on and sew, not after all that hard work.
    Thank you so much. I didn't notice the waves while I was laying it out but after I took the pic I noticed the waves so I went back and smoothed some out with the iron. I hadn't ironed it yet (thus, the wrinkles) and I hadn't smoothed it out yet. After ironing it looks much better but some toward the outer edge were still wavy so I think I must have pulled a little while stitching the borders on or let the quilt drape too much so the weight pulled it so I put it on my table. Tomorrow, with fresh eyes, I'll seam rip the outer edges and restitch.

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    I think for colors, I would use the reds that are in the quilt for the flowers, a lighter cream for the centers and a nice autumn green for the stems but not sure. I was also thinking of using the darker brown that's in the roof of the "Madison House" block as the stems. What do you think? Also, I wasn't sure if I should be consistent and use the same red for all the flowers or make the flowers scrappy like the quilt. Any thoughts?

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    Lovely quilt. I would mark my scallops then place my flowers & vines from there. Hope to see pics when finished.

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    So pretty so far - please post when borders are done!

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    that should be lovely. mark first, then applique. lovely quilt!! :thumbup:

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    A small flange of red between the blocks and the border, Just in case/ FYI - a flange is a 1inch maybe 1 1/2 inches strip of fabric folded in half - wrong sides together and placed between the border and another section of the quilt.

    I hope this is a welcome comment. I am hoping that I did not step over my bounds.

    Edited to add: Do some people do the applique on the border strips before attaching them to the quilt body? It seems to me that would be easier.

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    i love applique around a border (if someone else is doing the sewing) lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by quilter68
    Edited to add: Do some people do the applique on the border strips before attaching them to the quilt body? It seems to me that would be easier.
    Yep, and you're right, it's much easier to work with.

    You would do the applique on well measured and marked borders, then attach them. You can finish up the connecting "vine" in the corners when they are all attached.

    Back to the borders - just adjusting the edges or ironing them isn't going to make the borders "fit" correctly.

    I know it sounds drastic, but I really think
    1 - you should take them off,
    2 - re-measure a few times,
    3 - mark the correct border measurements on the border pieces,
    4 - mark your border applique so you know it will fit.
    4 - do the applique,
    5 - and then reattach the borders correctly.

    As for which colors to use for the applique, I wouldn't introduce any new colors not already in the quilt. I'd use brown as the vine, or a darker red. The whole feel of the quilt top is very old-fashioned, almost Amish. Keep it simple.

    It will be GORGEOUS when you're all done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTS
    Quote Originally Posted by quilter68
    Edited to add: Do some people do the applique on the border strips before attaching them to the quilt body? It seems to me that would be easier.
    Yep, and you're right, it's much easier to work with.

    You would do the applique on well measured and marked borders, then attach them. You can finish up the connecting "vine" in the corners when they are all attached.

    Back to the borders - just adjusting the edges or ironing them isn't going to make the borders "fit" correctly.

    I know it sounds drastic, but I really think
    1 - you should take them off,
    2 - re-measure a few times,
    3 - mark the correct border measurements on the border pieces,
    4 - mark your border applique so you know it will fit.
    4 - do the applique,
    5 - and then reattach the borders correctly.

    As for which colors to use for the applique, I wouldn't introduce any new colors not already in the quilt. I'd use brown as the vine, or a darker red. The whole feel of the quilt top is very old-fashioned, almost Amish. Keep it simple.

    It will be GORGEOUS when you're all done.
    Thanks! I was thinking it wouldn't feel right by introducing a new color but wasn't sure if the brown would look right. I normally would do the applique first but I want it to travel around the corners (a new technique for me) so I thought I'd do it this way. I was trying to use this quilt to familiarize myself with as many new techniques as possible. Each appliqued heart block has a different technique from hand applique to reverse applique and the Drunkard's Path block was entirely hand pieced :| Not sure I like that method. :lol: But, I wanted to say that I had at least tried it before I "knocked it" as my Gram would say.

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    great quilt where did you get the pattern?

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    [quote=quiltsRfun]I think the applique will be a nice addition to the plain borders.[/quote

    Totally agree!

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    Quote Originally Posted by quilter68
    A small flange of red between the blocks and the border, Just in case/ FYI - a flange is a 1inch maybe 1 1/2 inches strip of fabric folded in half - wrong sides together and placed between the border and another section of the quilt.

    I hope this is a welcome comment. I am hoping that I did not step over my bounds.

    Edited to add: Do some people do the applique on the border strips before attaching them to the quilt body? It seems to me that would be easier.
    No, please don't feel you overstepped any bounds. I'm a new quilter and really looking for the advice here. :D I've done applique on the border strips before adding them once before but wanted to try something new this time. If I do the applique this time, I'm going to hand applique the pieces to swirl around the corner so that's why I added the border pieces first this time. It's a new style/technique and I wanted this quilt to sort of get me out of my newbie quilter comfort zone...it's done just that, too! :wink:

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    OK, so, the appliqued borders are just not working! Blah!! I fixed the borders just to realize what the real problem was! The fabric that I used in the sashing between blocks was beautiful so I decided I wanted to keep using it in the outside borders so I used the second cut of it that I had set aside for the backing. I didn't remember that they were in two cuts because one was from the remainder of one bolt and the other was a fresh cut. So, the sashing in the center is a bit stiffer than the outside borders. Thus, all the waves. But, I got them straightened out really well so I'm just going to leave it as it is, do the quilting and then scallop the borders. What I might do to add more design to the borders is "draw" in the applique designs I had originally intended to use with the quilting.

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