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    Cresta T132-3

    Hi, new here!

    I guess I can count the old Cresta as 'vintage', so I thought this to be the best place to post first!

    My dad moved house recently, and I took the chance to retrieve some old stuff that has been in his house for many a year, mostly my old junk, but also a few things I know he's unlikely to really want... such as this sewing machine. I'm pretty sure it was my Gran's, and I have vague images of recollection from when I was little.

    Now, unfortunately, I'm not into sewing, except when the buttons on my coat fall off, and I have never really understood just how sewing machines work.

    However, seeing as this machine has probably not seen the light of day for maybe 20-25 years, I thought it would only be fair to get it out and take some interest, so tonight I did... It's rather musty smelling and very greasy, so I guess the first thing to do would be to clean it up. I'm not sure plugging it in and turning it on straight away is the best idea... Anyway, here 'it' is!





    Dusty old case

















    Any tips on taking one of these apart and cleaning it?

    Many thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by karissabob View Post
    Hi, new here!

    I guess I can count the old Cresta as 'vintage', so I thought this to be the best place to post first!

    My dad moved house recently, and I took the chance to retrieve some old stuff that has been in his house for many a year, mostly my old junk, but also a few things I know he's unlikely to really want... such as this sewing machine. I'm pretty sure it was my Gran's, and I have vague images of recollection from when I was little.

    Now, unfortunately, I'm not into sewing, except when the buttons on my coat fall off, and I have never really understood just how sewing machines work.

    However, seeing as this machine has probably not seen the light of day for maybe 20-25 years, I thought it would only be fair to get it out and take some interest, so tonight I did... It's rather musty smelling and very greasy, so I guess the first thing to do would be to clean it up. I'm not sure plugging it in and turning it on straight away is the best idea... Anyway, here 'it' is!





    Dusty old case

















    Any tips on taking one of these apart and cleaning it?

    Many thanks
    If you don't know what you are doing DON'T take it apart. That one has had someone overly enthusiastic with oil drench it good and what you see on it is dried up oil. Much better than rust though. It is a very cool old machine - I'm guessing it was made in Germany or somewhere in Europe. As far as learning to sew goes - that one is not a beginner sewing machine either for sewing or fixing up. There are lots of great videos on Utube for learning to sew. If you want to learn to do repairs, buy some old junker Singer 66 or 15 or a Japanese 15 or something else black and learn to fix up. If you want to sew, look for one already working, sew on it first so you don't ruin that machine. As a machine in the shape it is in it isn't worth very much. To someone who loves to sew and can fix it, it would be a great machine and you probably wouldn't be able to pry it away from them at any price. Try turning it by hand. Does it turn freely or is it a bit hard to turn. If it is hard to turn don't plug it in - it will only wear out the motor.
    Last edited by miriam; 11-12-2013 at 03:35 AM.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    I would love the challenge of that machine. Looks like a Central Europe machine - Czechoslovakia? Don't let it get away, but like Miriam states, learn on another machine before tackling that one. That bobbin winder on the side is interesting. The Pictured Singer needles indicates it may take standard consumables. Keep us informed of your progress with pictures. Your original pictures are very good.
    Ron in NW MO

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    Welcome to the board! If you're wondering why we all have the same avatar, it's because we're all a bit nuts. Miriam is the Nutsest, though; she sledgehammered a dead machine onto a rock and then tried to sell it on Craigslist for $500. Despite that, though, she is one of the experts here on cleaning, fixing, and re-assembling dis-assembled assemblies.

    :-)

    I agree, don't take it apart yet. However you could do a heckuva great cleaning job without taking things apart! Sunflowerzz on this board is -great- at cleaning machines. She gets them cleaner than one could possibly imagine. Maybe she will have some tips for you.

    By the way, its lines looks sort of early-Bernina-like.
    -Cecilia. Tinkering more than stitching, really.

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    I was thinking about the Phoenix as well as the Bernina and YOU HAVE THE MANUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    That wacky ad is below in my signature - you can look at it and grin.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    Welcome Karrisabob, your machine kind of reminds me of some Elna machines I've seen. It looks like a very good machine to me. You probably don't need to take anything apart. There's some great tutorials here on cleaning up older machines. Spend a little time either reading them or watching the videos posted in them and read your owner's manual. Follow your owner's manual instructions for lubrication. Sewing machine oil is safe to use on any of these older machines. It won't damage the finish. Use it to wipe the machine down with a soft cloth. With a little effort it will loosen up the dried oil on the machine and you will be able to clean it off.

    I'm new to sewing and sewing machines too. Why is this not considered a beginner machine?
    Rodney

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    I'm new to sewing and sewing machines too. Why is this not considered a beginner machine?
    Rodney
    This one has more complicated parts than some of the more simple machines. I doubt if you could come up with a service manual for it - there are service manuals out there for the old black machines.
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    Is the attendance manual not the same as the service manual?
    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    This one has more complicated parts than some of the more simple machines. I doubt if you could come up with a service manual for it - there are service manuals out there for the old black machines.

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    It is likely an owner's manual rather than a service manual. Some owner's manuals have better info than others.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.

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    This machine is often found labeled as a LADA. It was made in Czechoslovakia the early 1950s. It is a wonderful machine if working properly. Most reports on this series of machines say that the internal timing belt is usually found to be disintegrated. Turn the hand wheel and watch to see if the hook turns. If not, the belt is shot. You can also check the belt itself by removing the handwheel (one screw). The timing belt is no longer available. The new belts have a different pitch than the two old gears on the machine.

    I replaced the belt on mine about ten years ago. I bought new Riccar replacement gears. I had to machine a sleeve to reduce the inside diameter on one gear and machine out the other so they would fit the shafts. Then after finding a belt that almost fit, I had to install an idler pulley to take up the slack.

    Basically gear and belt replacement is not for the faint of heart.

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    Hi everyone and thanks for the replies. The hand crank turns fine and the needle and bits move freely. All the knobs and buttons turn OK except for the round one above the red slidey knob... On the back of the manual someone has kindly sketched a wiring diagram, so might be handy I shall have another read of that as I am sure that explains how to re-oil it and stuff, once the musty smell has gone.

    This is one of two sewing machines I 'rescued' - the other is a 193(6?) manual Singer (quite a common one) with a lovely wooden case, also not opened for many a year, again, probably my Gran's

    At the weekend, my Dad had a clear out of his new loft and found.... an electric Singer sewing machine... looks like I may form a collection!!

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    woo hoo! congratulations

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    You need to invest in some Tri-Flow and oil everything that moves - careful of the rubber parts and belts.
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    Congratulations on your new collection; it sounds like you're off to a good start. It also sounds like you have a couple more machines to show us!

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    Hi Karrisabob

    I have 2 Cresta T132's - one of them bought new for me in 1969 so I could use for my A-level school exams (when seventeen).

    It is a beautiful machine - so pretty and just purrs when it is working - I believe it does 1600 stitches per min according to ISMACS. It was made at the Lada factory in Czechosolvakia - they went out of business around 1972 so yours must have been made before that. You will also find them badged as Lada and other names.

    I took mine to my local repair man earlier this year as the needle bar wouldn't go up and down, and it was just the motor belt that was loose.

    I have 6 machines including a manual singer 28, and I disagree with other people when they say this machine is not for a beginner. You can use it just to straight stitch to begin with and then explore the other options later. There are numerous spelling and grammar mistakes in the manual but it is very comprehensive.

    Regards oiling I believe it says to oil in the holes which are circled in red on the machine. You will only need one drop in each hole - and please please use only sewing machine oil. Things such as 3 in 1 and WD40 just gunk up the works. To be honest I had never oiled it (very bad of me) but of course it was oiled at the service earlier this year.

    When you do use it make sure that the leads for the foot pedal and the power do not get caught up in the bobbin winder which is on the side - that will wear away the plastic coating leaving wires exposed on your leads - I know I did it and have had to cover mine at that point with rubberised tape. I now feed them underneath the flat bed extension when I am using the dinning table to sew on.

    I have used it to sew sail canvas - zigzag through 4 layers with no trouble and many other things over the years.

    I do hope you get it to work - let us know.

    Anne

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    Hello there,
    I just signed up on this forum today because I was looking for resources for our 56 year old Lada T132 sewing machine. It's been in our family's possession since 1959. My 85 year old Dad decided to do some sewing on it but after 15 minutes into the sewing we started to hear some weird knocking sound. So, I decided to take a look at it, clean it, lubricate it and just see what's cooking with it.

    I've done extended research for user manual for this sewing machine on the net but couldn't found any. By any chance, could someone post a Lada or Cresta T132 user manua hear in PDF format for me?

    I already took all covers off to see all the damage that the past 50 years did to this machine, so far the most serious problem is the v-belt, that needs to be replaced and it also needs vacuuming and lubricating with oil and grease.

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    Well, I've read that thread, unfortunately the bobbin area, housing looks different from the Lada T132. But I would need a manual for many reasons since I am not a seasoned sewing "machinist". I will start a new thread here maybe that will help.

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