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    did the pictures stay up? I haven't cleaned Happy Go Lucky yet - well I did clean the exterior - that one was COVERED in stuff. I thought I was getting a case or parts - I think I'm going to like this one - turns nice and smooth.
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    I can see 'em.

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    COOL! I don't know why they work on one page and not another.
    Maybe I can get a picture of the Singer 15-30 to come up
    It doesn't seem to have any markings on the bottom. I did not know it was a Singer until I read the badge.
    It has had the paint ground off in places. I haven't done any cleaning on it nor have I tested to see if it will sew.
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    This is very interesting to see the different markings on the machines. I wondered why I like some of the Japanese 15 clones better than others. One will turn a little better or have a better bobbin area or what ever. They are so much a like and yet each one will have it's own strengths or weaknesses.
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    Candace - what are you using for a foot for free motion. I have a couple different feet - one I like better than the others. Some of the clones have a little lever at the top to push for free motion - just remember to put it back when you are done or you will be very befuddled trying to make the machine sew when you want it to. You may or may not like to use that feature. The dogs do drop easy on a lot of the clones.
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    Might be interesting to note which models are good FMQ-ers and which ones aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepolyparrot View Post
    Might be interesting to note which models are good FMQ-ers and which ones aren't.
    Maybe that should be a different thread? Maybe show a pic of the machine and a sample of work?
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    Oh my I can't leave off a Singer 15 - this one has seen better days - it's identity was the front badge - the machine's paint is in terrible shape and the bottom has no markings.
    Since it didn't come up in window #8, I will re-post Name:  clones and their under side stamps 066.JPG
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    That old Singer does free motion - see that screw that adjusts the feed dogs? It also needs a really good clean up.
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    Here is a clone with no badged name. I'm thinking the decalss are just like a Universal clone with no markings on the under side. Name:  clones and their under side stamps 048.JPG
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    I might push my luck but here is a pic ofName:  clones and their under side stamps 047.JPG
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    it is no wonder they are called clones. They look so much like the Singer on the under side. The difference seems to be the bobbin shuttle style and what ever markings
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    I might push my luck but here is a pic ofName:  clones and their under side stamps 047.JPG
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    Your unbadged clone has the same decals as my Edison.


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    my un-badged has the same decals as my Universal, too
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    If you look close at the "Edison" decal you can see the edges of it. It was not put on at the same time as the other ones. More like after the fact. The Edison decal is not the same quality as the others either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    If you look close at the "Edison" decal you can see the edges of it. It was not put on at the same time as the other ones. More like after the fact. The Edison decal is not the same quality as the others either.

    Joe
    It isn't even the same color and a little crooked - I bet it sews good.
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    Not quite a clone

    Since Miriam was kind enough to post pics of a 15 I figured I'd add to the fun with another Singer. Not Japanese and not a 15 clone underneath, though it sure looks like it from the top. Here's our 115. From above just another 15 with Tiffany decals. From below something quite different. No idea yet if it works as it's further down the line for me to work on. Everything moves, though, so I have some hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Candace - what are you using for a foot for free motion. I have a couple different feet - one I like better than the others. Some of the clones have a little lever at the top to push for free motion - just remember to put it back when you are done or you will be very befuddled trying to make the machine sew when you want it to. You may or may not like to use that feature. The dogs do drop easy on a lot of the clones.
    Miriam, I have a whole collection of FMQ feet and have tried many types and brands. The 15 clones would not FMQ nicely with any of them. I just wasn't happy with the quality of movement or stitching. They did piece nicely.

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    1952 Deluxe

    This sewing machine is a very "Plain Jane". No JA number on it, serial number Z3303587. Motor is a Sew-Rite, 1.2 amps, 1/4 HP. She needs a complete re-wire and case repair as she did not travel well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    It isn't even the same color and a little crooked - I bet it sews good.
    The Edison is the one I picked up in Terre Haute at the end of last year. The one with all the bent and broken needles in it. It's way out of time and I've been working on it for a long time. Turns out the Commodore is identical internally and should be a guide to put the Edison back in sync with itself.

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    Coronado 45-4123


    This is one of my favorite machines. Serial number A30515, JA-54. The machine bed is stamped with JC-21 and B.I.C. The motor is made by Quality Sewing Machine Motors, 115 Volts/105 Watts.
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    I wonder if that JA is Janome?
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    Miriam,

    Probably not. Many if not all Japanese machines have a J-A + number in the casting. This number Ids the manufacturer. As an example Happy used JA 10. Janome when they made New Homes used JA 2 & JA 30. Maruzen made Kenmores and used JA 4. The list is being compiled by on a Yahoo group by Bill Holman as information becomes available, but it isn't complete yet (maybe never will). The manufacturer of the JA 54 hasn't been identified yet.

    Cathy (probably too much information again)

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    I wonder if that JA is Janome?
    Cathy

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    Wow Cathy you find all kinds of stuff
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    I collect information (probably more than machines) I keep it on my computer. Heaven help me if my hard drive ever crashes. Although most of it is backed up in the 'clouds'.

    Cathy


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    Wow Cathy you find all kinds of stuff
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