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    The dark underside

    Last year we posted tons of beautiful pictures of Japanese 15 clones. I love those machines. They are very cool. Easy to use and easy to take care of. I think they are good ones to learn on, great for piecing and WONDERFUL for free motion work.

    This thread is it's own new thing - please post the pics of the under sides here... LOL Some of them don't have any ID stamped but some do.
    These machines were made in Japan by various companies. All I am posting are Japanese 15 clones. If you have one I don't have on here feel free to post a pic.

    Here is a link to the top sides of the Japanese 15 clones - lots of variety there and lots of info.
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    Ok here is a pic of a bottom of a badged Modern Home 15 clone:
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    and another blue machine badged Mercury with no name in the bottom - only ID was a serial number
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    So let's look at a black one badged Challenge - made by RICCAR - I have two and both are the same but I got them in different places
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    I hope all these pictures will post ok with out all disappearing.
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    I'm thinking this one is a Montgomery Ward made by Happy:
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    Feel free to add on here - I have others and as I shoot them I will post pics of the undersides - I can not at this time tell you which ones are better than others. I think that is sort of up to the individual machine.
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    Oh my I can't leave off a Singer 15 - this one has seen better days - it's identity was the front badge - the machine's paint is in terrible shape
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Oh my I can't leave off a Singer 15 - this one has seen better days - it's identity was the front badge - the machine's paint is in terrible shape
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    This should be fun Miriam. Never thought to take pics of the "Dark Underside" of my clones. Is there any info on the JA factory numbers? I have been curious as to which factory manufactured the machines and where.
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    This picture didn't come through.

    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    I'm thinking this one is a Montgomery Ward made by Happy:
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    Funny your Modern Home has "Brother" cast into the underside of the bed.

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    actually, at the yahoo 'vintage japanese sewing machine' group we make an effort to do this- it often is the only way to get an idea about factories et cetera. That is how I know that my 'Capri' was made by Mr. Toyoda. Maybe not he himself, but you get the idea.
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    Joey had three of them, one's a JUKI the other two ??????????? Pictures coming shortly

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    Mercury Electric Dial-o-Matic

    Mercury Electric Dial-o-Matic sewing machine. Model R 3L, TA 133996. This machine has a Morse motor, 1/4 HP, 1.2 Amps, 115 V. The serial number and manufacture number is embossed on the lip of the bed.
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    Wizard Sewing Machine, Model 40

    Precision Deluxe Built, manufactured by Brother, no JA number on this one, serial number 67994 is embossed on the bed lip. The motor is made by Sovereign, 1/15 HP, 1.2 Amp, 115 V.
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    Gosh, I would love to have a blue Wizard like that one! Hubs' nickname in the Navy was "Mr. Wizard" and c/s was "Wizard"

    I collected little wizard statues for him and made him a wizard costume for Halloween, too. That is one BEEYOOTEEFUL machine!

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    I'm curious as to the "wonderful for Free motion quilting". I've had two 15 Japanese type clones and have sold them because they didn't FMQ well at all:<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace View Post
    I'm curious as to the "wonderful for Free motion quilting". I've had two 15 Japanese type clones and have sold them because they didn't FMQ well at all:<
    The clones are the only ones I've had any luck doing free motion
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    I don't know why but when I post too many pictures they start to not open for some reason.
    I'll try again on a different page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    The clones are the only ones I've had any luck doing free motion
    Interesting. They're probably my least favorite FMQing machine.

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    OK, Here's my 15 Clones with their undersides:

    HOTHER:



    Everything under the bottom is stamped JUKI. No J- A numbers anywhere. There is a J in a depressed hexagon with the numbers 106 under it in the center of the bed.
    The badge reads;
    HOTHER
    The motor is a Belgelcor, UV 73, 1.0 AMP.

    COMMODORE:


    There is no J- A numbers only O3 stamped on the underside of the bed.
    The badge reads;
    COMMODORE SEWING MACHINE CO.
    DELUXE
    1953
    MADE IN JAPAN
    The motor is an ALPHA SEW .9 AMP, but the original was the same Belgelcor the HOTHER originally had.

    EDISON:



    There is no J- A numbers on the machine. The only markings are the serial number C 75774 on the lip of the bed.
    The badge reads;
    DELUXE
    Deluxe Family
    Sewing Machine
    JAPAN
    The motor is marked;
    THE ELECTRICAL MFG. CO.
    1/20 H.P. 5000 R.P.M.

    On the back side of all three face plates is the mark:
    TRADE MARK
    then within dual circles the initials
    SK

    Joe
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    I'm going to try to post the Happy again and see if the pic stays up
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    The Happy was badged for Montgomery Ward and MW was the name of the machine. I love the little 4 leaf clovers:
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    I've got two HAPPY made machines, but neither is a HA-1 / 15 clone.

    Joe

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