Macybaby

My goal was to collect a machine for each of the 12 "standard" shuttles that Boye sold. BTW - the "missing" Numbers are for needles. For the most part, they go in pairs, so shuttle 1 and needle #2 both fit Household machines - and so forth. There are a few with more than one needle number in between, and then there are some "half" needle sizes that got added later. I am going with the post 1907 number system. There are some earlier ones with a different numbering sequence. Something to be aware of if you are buying based on Number.

I am also giving the Manufacturer, not the branded names of the machines. There are a few less common manufactures that may take the same shuttle as a more common manufacturer - and there are many less common and older VS machines that Boye never made shuttles for.

1. Household



3. New Home



5. Standard



7. Domestic (pre White)



9. Davis



11. White



13. National



15. Singer and Singer copies (like early Free and some Domestic)



17. Demorest



19. New Royal (early)



The two I still don't have:

22. Eldredge (pre National) - I did buy an "Edredge B" that is listed as taking this size shuttle, but mine takes the size 13 like the rest of the National machines. The #22 is longer than the #13.

25. Florence

Another interesting note all of these are bar or top clamp machines. The only Side Clamp would be Singer.

J Miller

Cathy,

That is cool.

You're Davis / Sunshine looks a lot like my Davis / Minnesota B.

You'd be in a world of hurt if there was a "Gyrle" brand of shuttles and needles .... Just teasing LOL.

Joe

Rodney

Cool! Good photographic display of what to look for when trying to determine a manufacturer too.
Rodney

jlhmnj

Very neat--Always wondered what the odd ball shuttles went to.

Jon

Prim Quilts

Love your collection!

miriam

Just nosy... What made you decide to collect shuttles with matching machines? I think it is very cool.

HelenAnn

Cathy, can you explain the "bar" top and side? Love your machines and the fact that you have a focus for the collection. So far my collecting is very random but leaning toward the shuttles.
HelenAnn

Macybaby

I blame it all on my husband. I was doing fine sticking to Singers - and then he found the Two Spool and bought it - breaking the "ceiling" so to speak. And then right around the same time I found the New Queen and fell in love. The machine didn't come with a shuttle, and in my search for information on shuttles - I sort of got hooked and interested in the different shuttles and machines they went with.

And I also got side tracked with attachments and started collecting top clamp ones - and then I needed to find machines that fit the different varieties I have.

So that got me a collection of Singers, Machines that fit Boye Shuttles and machines that take different variations of top clamp feet.

And then I got a book and it had a few pages about the early 1900's machines after they became "standard" and listed several of the remaining companies - so I decided I also wanted one from each of those. This added the Foley & Williams, Wilcox and Gibbs, Wheeler and Wilson and New Leader, which is one I've found very little information on, and the name was also used by National on later machines.

I also have a real interest in early rotary machines - got the Two Spool, the Standard stout and slim, Singer 15 and 66, Wheeler Wilson D9, White, and am looking for a Davis rotary.

I have a lot more research to do, something to keep me busy for the rest of my life.

QuiltingVagabond

Thanks for posting these Cathy! It helped confirm that my DIL's New Royal uses the 19 shuttle (I found one on Ebay). I can't wait to go visit her to see if we can make it work!

Macybaby

This is a rough explanation - and I'm not considering per 1890 machines - only those after the machines had evolved to what I'd call the "modern" look (I'll leave the early ones to Steve H!).

Singer has the type we are most familiar with, the presser foot bar is round, and then flattens out at the end and has a screw hole in it - and a side clamping foot is attached with a screw into that hole.



While there are other exceptions - the majority of the other US made machines had a bar that was round all the way to the end. With the early ones, the foot had a round opening at the top and slipped onto the bar with a screw to tighten against the bar.

Ignore the bed mount ruffler and only look at the foot - and how it goes up and the presser bar fits inside it.



The very early sets used bed mount hemmers and binder, so only the narrow hemmer and ruffler mounted to the pressure bar. The tucker was also bed mount.

Most of the "next generation" sets had some sort of adapter that fit onto the bar and then the different hemmers attached to it. Usually the ruffler and narrow hemmer were direct mount feet. Here are two adapters showing the hole the bar fits into - note they are not the same diameter.



I have several sets that have different style adapters - and if you lost the adapter foot, you could not use the others.



Then someone came up with the "top clamp" style adapter, where the feet slip unto the bracket and the clamp is screwed DOWN to hold them in place. I have sets that included this style adapter. The regular foot that came with the machine was still slipped directly on the bar, and often the ruffler was still this type.



I think it was not long after that machines started coming with the adapter already on the machine, so even the regular foot was top clamp. Sets no longer needed to come with an adapter and you could easily buy a replacement clamp for the machine if you lost one. At this point most tuckers were also mounted to the presser bar and not the bed.



The cardboard boxed sets are later, and almost always for Rotary machines. The only difference between them is the bed mount attachments, which is the shirr plate that works with the ruffler when shirring, and the underbraider. And later ones don't have the underbraider as they went to top braiding.

On the later style top clamp sets, there are many variations. I've not got through my earler sets that use the direct mount feet or other adapters yet - but for the later sets, so far I have
6 for Standard
1 Foley & Wilson
2 Eldredge (pre National)
1 Davis
5 National
2 Free (early)
3 Free/New Home (after combined)
1 New Royal (old style)
6 White
4 New Home (before Free combined)

Not all are complete sets - so I'm still looking - and some are the same except for a Rotary set and a VS set - so only the plates are different. And I'm always looking for the extra feet that weren't part of the basic set, like cording and zipper feet, embroidery feet, hemstitchers (feet and plate) buttonholers and other fun stuff.