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minibarn 02-22-2014 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by J Miller (Post 6589792)
Jenna,

There is a little tab on the end of the little bar the lever moves when you open it that rests against the bobbin.
If the lever isn't opened the tab does not touch the bobbin and it will fall out. I just tilt the bobbin case with the face up so the bobbin doesn't fall out when I adjust them.

The little peg is on the bobbin winder. It engages the notch on the inner edge of the bobbins shaft to spin it. They can wear or get broken.

Joe

Thanks for clarifying. The peg seems to be in good shape. I tried the bobbins I have again and still have issues so I guess I will just wait for the SC bobbins and see what goes.

Jenna

minibarn 02-22-2014 08:02 PM

Thank you Cathy for the pics and explaining the V of the thread. I am at least loading the bobbin correctly in the case!

Jenna

Mizkaki 02-22-2014 08:44 PM

Jenna,

You're welcome. I'm glad I could help.

Cathy


Originally Posted by minibarn (Post 6590689)
Thank you Cathy for the pics and explaining the V of the thread. I am at least loading the bobbin correctly in the case!

Jenna


J Miller 02-23-2014 07:13 AM

Well ... fudge! I did check the 15-91 manual and sure enough the bobbin loads opposite what I was doing. Duhhh.... I'll bet I have to reset the bobbin tension when I put it in right the next time. Sigh ..........

Joe

minibarn 02-23-2014 07:57 AM

Hey Joe, at least it worked! Wonder if mine will work better that way!!!

Jenna

J Miller 02-23-2014 08:15 AM

I hope so. Now that I know better mine probably won't work at all if I put 'em in wrong. :)

Joe

ArchaicArcane 02-23-2014 08:57 PM

I have a question about the class 15 bobbin cases for the zig zag machines.
There are 2 different part numbers for them, one for the side loading machines and one for the front loading, but I can't see a difference in the cases at all... of course the price is different on the 2, which implies that there is some difference....


As for the bobbins - there are a couple of different qualities of bobbins. I have about 5 different choices in the spreadsheet for my supplier, all of course with different costs. MOST places, Hancocks, Joann and even a lot of the the LSM places will stock the cheaper quality because (they think) people won't pay for the "better" cost, especially when they apply their 200 - 500% markup.

The newer machines don't care as much about the quality control on the bobbins. I have never had trouble buying the higher quality ones, even in vintage machines. The part number for the metal 15 bobbins I ordered is: 2518-A. I haven't had to order class 66 bobbins from my supplier because i have 3 parts organizer drawers of them from other machines. :)

Mizkaki 02-23-2014 09:07 PM

Tammi,

One of the differences in the class 15 bobbin cases is the position and length of the slot. The needle at its lowest has it's the tip in that slot. If you use a case made for a side load straight stitch machine in a zig zag machine the needle will hit the case.

The width of the zig zag is the other differences. Wider zig zag stitches need a wider slot in the bobbin case.

Cathy


Originally Posted by ArchaicArcane (Post 6592519)
I have a question about the class 15 bobbin cases for the zig zag machines.
There are 2 different part numbers for them, one for the side loading machines and one for the front loading, but I can't see a difference in the cases at all... of course the price is different on the 2, which implies that there is some difference....


ArchaicArcane 02-23-2014 09:26 PM

Thanks Cathy! How the heck did I miss that? So am I right then in thinking that a BCase made for the ZZ machines would be fine in the SS machines? (Provided of course everything else is the same - i.e. it has the finger at 1 o'clock, etc.) I must have been very lucky the couple of times I've had to order the case for a machine, or else I managed to order the right one each time. The ZZ machines I'd been thinking of that I thought were side load are ones that have the whole hook move side to side, so the slot could be SS sized, yes?

THe ZZ width must be why I have 3 different sized slots on the BCases here.

I knew about the tip of the needle. I learned that when trying to take a BC out when a machine was thread jammed with the needle in the down position. ;) Scissors, thread cutter and a lot of muttering to the rescue.

Mizkaki 02-23-2014 10:09 PM

Tammi,

I usually buy from my supplier the 11mm wide width ZZ bobbin case. I think it is #JO1313Z. It's listed as high quality.

Yes, the side loaders don't need the wide slot.

Cathy




Originally Posted by ArchaicArcane (Post 6592542)
Thanks Cathy! How the heck did I miss that? So am I right then in thinking that a BCase made for the ZZ machines would be fine in the SS machines? (Provided of course everything else is the same - i.e. it has the finger at 1 o'clock, etc.) I must have been very lucky the couple of times I've had to order the case for a machine, or else I managed to order the right one each time. The ZZ machines I'd been thinking of that I thought were side load are ones that have the whole hook move side to side, so the slot could be SS sized, yes?

THe ZZ width must be why I have 3 different sized slots on the BCases here.

I knew about the tip of the needle. I learned that when trying to take a BC out when a machine was thread jammed with the needle in the down position. ;) Scissors, thread cutter and a lot of muttering to the rescue.



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