mmmm,... mustard,....
"could be considered a featherweight"? whhhhaaaaatttt??? especially since they think it's a 66......

SEE! I was just telling you all about the cast iron featherweights. I don't have any of them new fangled round bobbin ones though.... might have to get me one. might evenput it in my "portable" treadle stand... I will be a traveling Fool then!

Cathy that is what i was thinking when I saw it. I don't think I can get my brother to pick it up for me.

Hey! A vintage machine that does Cross stitch!
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details....dId=1076840864

LOL!! It's amazing what those old machines can do!

Well, I'd buy THAT for a dollar!

I thought Vintage meant old not cheap.
http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions...-21886373.html

201 ? http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions...-21886451.html

Yes, that's a 201-2. The obvious tell is the light fixture on the front of the machine. The 201-2 is the only full size black Singer that has the light on the front of it like that. The light switch is usually white also, this is the first one I've ever seen with a black switch.

Cari

Looks like it might go for a good price

I am really not liking all these reproductions coming out onto the market. There is confusion with many sellers as to what they even have. Really, what's the point to making them? They are not as lovely or as good a quality as the originals and the originals are still around! They need not be reproduced!

Unfortunately Singer confused the issue themselves when they authorized these machines to be made. I think they were jumping on the nostalgia band wagon to cash in on the name. The problem is they went for the image without the substance and neglected the quality that made them great to begin with. Another case of "How cheap can we make this?" Instead of "How well can we make this?".
15 clones are still being produced. If you have the money for the minimum order you can buy brand new ones for about $25 a machine.
Rodney

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/atq/5058122785.html
Nice cabinet, one I've never seen before. The price is out of this world though.

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/atq/5051862360.html
Singer 20-10, and it even has the original box

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/grd/5004192937.html
May she rest in peace...

On the repros...there are always going to be people that firmly believe that new = better and will not be budged from that opinion.

Christine- that tractor makes me wonder if he's getting hate messages from sewing machine collectors (since he said he made it himself).

Singer 16-188, $175, Algoma, WI
http://greenbay.craigslist.org/atq/5052125030.html

Christine- I usually see that cabinet on slightly older machines than that. I have one that came with my 401A. They're nice examples of mid-century modern furniture and appear to be well made. I don't know if that one is original to the machine or not.
Rodney

Here's a very nice deal on a Wheeler & Wilson:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/hsh/5058624228.html
Great cabinet.
Rodney

Love that WW cabinet. I've got to stop my cabinet lust from getting even further out of control - but I might even toss one of my Singer cabinets to the curb for one like that . . .

I think W & W made some of the prettiest cabinets too. I love the spindle work on that one. Neat outboard flywheel too.
Rodney

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221788550527

Will need maintenance? Will need to move it out of bobbin winding mode.

Cari

The best part - the location - Cranberry! (ok so it's spelled Cranbury . . .)

Lol, I didn't even notice that, yes it's a perfect location for that machine.

Cari

Good chance that vintage also has a broken cam gear in it too. GREAT catch on the bobbin winder. ;)

Yeah, it's a good possibility. I'm waiting on one of these to get here. I didn't buy it a friend on another forum gave it to me. I want it more for my collection than to actually use it, plus I really want to get a look at her insides. None of my other Brothers except the PE200 are new enough to have any plastic inside them.

Cari

I would buy that in a heart beat if it wasn't so far away.

Me too! I’ve been keeping an eye out for a Singer 16-188 nearby too. I had a shot at one close-by that sold for $350 last year or the year before, but couldn’t justify the expense just to play with it. I’m really just looking for a head to put in one of my existing treadles.

CD in Oklahoma

LOL! Well, easy fix then!

Did you see this one?

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bfs/5062211514.html

I had a Brother Galaxie 221A here, it had a cracked cam stack. I had another one, similar vintage that I paid $10 for that had a cracked gear but I wanted it for the case. That's when I swore off Brothers of that vintage.

I have one of those and I would match... LOL not what I'm looking for.
That other one is exactly what I am looking for.

All of mine (except the PE200) run from 1954 through the mid to late 1960's. No plastic inside any of them so far. I did have a VX780 with lots of plastic, it was a real disappointment for being a Brother.

More than once I've bought a $10 or $15 machine, took it out of the case and donated the machine back to the store.

Cari

Wow! Not one there that hadn't had the snot beat out of it!

When I first got into sewing machine repair, I was still using an OSMG for my more challenging stuff. He said if you get into it, stay away from Brother. The gears are almost always broken. He said that he had actually opened new in box machines and found broken gears. That's probably what made my tolerance so low when I found the two. That said, I'm actually one of Brother's certified technicians now, so what does that say about me? ;)

I would have tried to donate that one Brother back but it was a private sale. ;)

The older Brother machines seem to be ok - that era not so hot eh?

Nope. Somewhere in the mid to late sixties they went to nylon or plastic like a lot of others but for some reason - and maybe that's a drawback of our arid climate - whereas you get really badly rusted, we get cracked a lot sooner? - the Brother machines in that late 60s to 70s range moreso than other brands for some reason have all been parters for me because of cracked gears and cam stacks.

I guess I try to stay away from plastic of any kind if I can but some times when you shine a light in there - it is in there It does amaze me how much I can part out a machine though and still have parts... I just have to make sure I am sure it is a parts machine I'm pulling parts off.

I'm often surprised at the machines that do have plastic in them but are well loved machines and people will pay dearly to replace the gears - the Berninas of course, but the Pfaff 1222 as well. I'm sure there are others.

Yeahl, I parted a non-parter by accident once too. Luckily it was not one of my ultra favorites. ;)

snicker........ some times it is very hard to tell if a machine on my shelf works or not.

If the foot-powered drill comes with them, it might be worth the $195 for all. I guess it could be a sheep-shearing treadle. I’ve been wanting an old treadle dentist drill to rig up a non-electric Dremel Tool, but they usually sell for big dollars.

CD in Oklahoma

You and me both! before I started keeping an eye out for one I saw two or three for cheap and in good condition. Now I can't find one for less than $170, and most of them are either rust buckets or $4000 and fully restored.

Also would love a treadle/petal lathe and a saw, and a post drill. Few of them made it out to Colorado so they're rare and pricey here.