Go Back  Quiltingboard Forums > Main > For Vintage & Antique Machine Enthusiasts
Question about cleaning old machine >

Question about cleaning old machine

Question about cleaning old machine

Thread Tools
 
Old 06-07-2013, 06:59 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
sew4nin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: St. Charles, MO
Posts: 307
Default Question about cleaning old machine

I am cleaning a 500A that I got at a thrift store yesterday (I posted a pic). I seem to have forgotten everything I did when I cleaned up another old machine. I know I need to lube the gears, but is it safe to clean the gears underneath? If so, I would appreciate any advise on what to use to clean them. I have liquid wrench and evaporust from my previous cleaning project. The wheel feels like it sticks or binds on something when I move it. I have removed the bobbin case. I got a lot of great advise last time. Thanks for the help!
sew4nin is offline  
Old 06-07-2013, 07:17 AM
  #2  
Super Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Outer Space
Posts: 9,319
Default

The best thing for you to do is download a manual. It tells you clearly which points and gears needs which type of oil or grease.
Candace is offline  
Old 06-07-2013, 07:40 AM
  #3  
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: San Lorenzo, CA
Posts: 5,361
Default

x2 on what Candace said...

For cleaning I use q-tips, long nosed tweezers, micro-vac, and cursing...
SteveH is offline  
Old 06-07-2013, 07:58 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
sew4nin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: St. Charles, MO
Posts: 307
Default

I have downloaded the manual and know what needs grease and what needs oil from experience with my 401. I was mostly wondering how aggressive I could be with actually cleaning the gears and if I could use a solution for cleaning
sew4nin is offline  
Old 06-07-2013, 08:01 AM
  #5  
Super Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 8,091
Default

sew4nin,

Here a thread I did last year about refurbing a 500A.
{ http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...e-t206634.html }

Joe
J Miller is offline  
Old 06-07-2013, 08:16 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
sew4nin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: St. Charles, MO
Posts: 307
Default

Wow, that is just what I need. I can't wait until I have time to go over everything. Thank you!
Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
sew4nin,

Here a thread I did last year about refurbing a 500A.
{ http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...e-t206634.html }

Joe
sew4nin is offline  
Old 06-07-2013, 08:55 AM
  #7  
Junior Member
 
MadCow333's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: PA, NC, or as-paid
Posts: 287
Default

The binding feeling in a 500 or 400 series can be old grease gummed up on the big nylon gear on the balance wheel - pull that balance wheel off and re-grease it.

Might be thread or lint or (like my 404) old rusted and stuck lint in the bobbin case area or under the feed dogs.

The metal gears I usually found to be bone dry, not gummed up.

Cam stacks gum up and get stuck.

After you've oiled / cleaned / lubed all else, only then mess with the motor (you don't need to remove it):
Another cause might be the motor itself. It will be the top bearing in the motor. Place one scanty drop of sew mach oil on the shaft and let it run down in to the motor, then run the motor gently until it frees up. Just a little oil. You don't want to damage the motor by thinning out its grease too much. Just a drop to de-solidify the old grease.
MadCow333 is offline  
Old 06-07-2013, 09:01 AM
  #8  
Junior Member
 
MadCow333's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: PA, NC, or as-paid
Posts: 287
Default

I got service manuals & other manuals here at this site (see link), I believe (but I forget exactly where):
http://www.manualsoncd.com/Dir-dirbrowse-2.htm



What to use to clean varies, but here's mine:
WD40 to dissolve old oils b/c it's close to kerosene in composition
Tuff Stuff in a spray can w/ yellow lid. About $3 or $3.50 /can at Dollar General, auto parts, etc.
sewing machine oil to oil but I do also use TriFlo on the machines that are keepers
I used white lithium grease or red grease from the auto parts store on the 401/404/402/500/503 and the 15-91 and 201 potted motor worm gears. Price is right. You can also use Vaseline in place of the Singer grease, I have been told.

WD40 and white lithuim grease seem to have fallen outta favor w/ the sew machine crowd. They were hawt back in 1998-2000 so that's what I have on hand here.

Last edited by MadCow333; 06-07-2013 at 09:07 AM.
MadCow333 is offline  
Old 06-07-2013, 12:08 PM
  #9  
Power Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 15,507
Default

I serviced a 401 Monday - took about 8 hours. It was pretty gummy.
miriam is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
damaquilts
General Chit-Chat (non-quilting talk)
7
01-02-2013 06:44 AM
Tallbald
For Vintage & Antique Machine Enthusiasts
5
11-17-2011 04:09 AM
layhewmonica
Introduce Yourself
39
03-04-2011 08:36 PM
DianaSwi
Main
4
02-15-2011 02:24 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



FREE Quilting Newsletter